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Andre Felipe Machado | 17 Oct 14:53 2009
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page for listing donors for Debian Project?

Hello,
I was unable to find a page listing donors (money) for Debian Project.
There are pages for equipment and services donors. But they are also unclear
about who is patronaging / employing DDs and or contributors for Debian Project
during business hours.
This is also a very important type of partnership.
What could we do about these lacking pages?
Regards.
Andre Felipe Machado
Paul Wise | 17 Oct 15:32 2009
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Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Andre Felipe Machado
<andremachado <at> techforce.com.br> wrote:

> I was unable to find a page listing donors (money) for Debian Project.
> There are pages for equipment and services donors. But they are also unclear
> about who is patronaging / employing DDs and or contributors for Debian Project
> during business hours.
> This is also a very important type of partnership.
> What could we do about these lacking pages?

Some ideas:

Contact the Debian accountant and auditor:

http://www.debian.org/intro/organization

Also, since SPI collects donations on behalf of Debian, they would
have donation information.

Put a call-out on debian-project asking for those DDs who are employed
by Debian if their employers would be willing to listed on our
website.

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Andre Felipe Machado | 18 Oct 16:44 2009
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Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

Hello,
Thanks for your suggestions regarding who to contact.

The http://www.debian.org/partners/ page does not show with enough
emphasis/details the employers/sponsors of DDs and contributors. Not all of
those listed show numbers (as they asked for or by lack of information?).
How could we give enough "highlight" for this kind of partner?

Regards.
Andre Felipe Machado
Paul Wise | 18 Oct 17:02 2009
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Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Andre Felipe Machado
<andremachado <at> techforce.com.br> wrote:

> The http://www.debian.org/partners/ page does not show with enough
> emphasis/details the employers/sponsors of DDs and contributors. Not all of
> those listed show numbers (as they asked for or by lack of information?).
> How could we give enough "highlight" for this kind of partner?

Probably contact each of the partners and find out if they would like
to add that information to the page, then contact debian-www if you do
not yet have commit access to the website.

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MJ Ray | 20 Oct 12:27 2009

Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

Paul Wise wrote:
> Put a call-out on debian-project asking for those DDs who are employed
> by Debian if their employers would be willing to listed on our
> website.

I don't think this should be restricted to employers.  Cooperatives
which allow their DDs to work on debian during business time should be
equally acceptable.

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Paul Wise | 20 Oct 12:40 2009
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Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM, MJ Ray <mjr <at> phonecoop.coop> wrote:
> Paul Wise wrote:
>> Put a call-out on debian-project asking for those DDs who are employed
>> by Debian if their employers would be willing to listed on our
>> website.
>
> I don't think this should be restricted to employers.  Cooperatives
> which allow their DDs to work on debian during business time should be
> equally acceptable.

Apologies for my choice of words. In any case, Debian doesn't appear
to have any partners that are cooperatives, at least according to the
Debian partners web page. If you know that one of the Debian partners
is a cooperative, it might be a good idea to amend the web page. If
your cooperative would like to become a Debian partner, that would be
excellent.

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Jeremiah Foster | 20 Oct 13:49 2009

Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?


On Oct 20, 2009, at 12:40, Paul Wise wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:27 PM, MJ Ray <mjr <at> phonecoop.coop> wrote:
>> Paul Wise wrote:
>>> Put a call-out on debian-project asking for those DDs who are  
>>> employed
>>> by Debian if their employers would be willing to listed on our
>>> website.
>>
>> I don't think this should be restricted to employers.  Cooperatives
>> which allow their DDs to work on debian during business time should  
>> be
>> equally acceptable.
>
> Apologies for my choice of words. In any case, Debian doesn't appear
> to have any partners that are cooperatives, at least according to the
> Debian partners web page. If you know that one of the Debian partners
> is a cooperative, it might be a good idea to amend the web page. If
> your cooperative would like to become a Debian partner, that would be
> excellent.

	Gnutiken, an economic co-operative based in Gothenburg, Sweden (http://gnutiken.se/ 
) would like to be a partner with debian. Gnutiken is a co-operative  
that sells hardware, courses, and services based on Free Software. We  
sell computers that run only free software for example, hold courses  
on getting started with GNU / Linux, provide office space to free  
software hackers, like Andreas Nilsson who works for the Mozilla  
Foundation, and provide a space for various free software projects to  
use, like the Gothenburg Hacker Space and Ubuntu Sweden who are having  
a release party for Karmic on the 29th of October.

	We'd love to be a debian partner. We may not have the economic means  
at the moment since we are just starting up, we've only been legally  
registered with the tax authorities for that last month or so, so we  
don't possess all the resources many debian partners have. But I have  
maintained the Swedish dictionary in debian for a while now and  
participate with packaging in the debian-perl group which I have been  
doing for years. The operating systems we support at Gnutiken are all  
debian-based, except for Fedora. (We want to provide some diversity.)  
We would love to contribute back to debian in any way we can, and we  
work hard promoting debian.

	What is the best way for Gnutiken to participate in the debian  
partner program?

Thanks!

Jeremiah Foster

Paul Wise | 20 Oct 14:27 2009
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Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jeremiah Foster
<jeremiah <at> jeremiahfoster.com> wrote:

>        Gnutiken, an economic co-operative based in Gothenburg, Sweden
> (http://gnutiken.se/) would like to be a partner with debian. Gnutiken is a
> co-operative that sells hardware, courses, and services based on Free
> Software. We sell computers that run only free software for example, hold
> courses on getting started with GNU / Linux, provide office space to free
> software hackers, like Andreas Nilsson who works for the Mozilla Foundation,
> and provide a space for various free software projects to use, like the
> Gothenburg Hacker Space and Ubuntu Sweden who are having a release party for
> Karmic on the 29th of October.

Great stuff!

Please note that almost all modern computers contain non-free software[1].

>        We'd love to be a debian partner. We may not have the economic means
> at the moment since we are just starting up, we've only been legally
> registered with the tax authorities for that last month or so, so we don't
> possess all the resources many debian partners have. But I have maintained
> the Swedish dictionary in debian for a while now and participate with
> packaging in the debian-perl group which I have been doing for years. The
> operating systems we support at Gnutiken are all debian-based, except for
> Fedora. (We want to provide some diversity.) We would love to contribute
> back to debian in any way we can, and we work hard promoting debian.
>
>        What is the best way for Gnutiken to participate in the debian
> partner program?

As a start, please take a look at the partners web pages:

http://www.debian.org/partners/
http://www.debian.org/partners/partners
http://www.debian.org/partners/partners-form

Sounds like Gnutiken would be more of a development partner than
service partner at the current stage of it's life. There are various
ways your members could help with Debian development, here are some
ideas that may or may not qualify Gnutiken for "Debian partner"
status, but would certainly help Debian.

Join the packaging teams for software you rely on heavily and work on
them whenever possible.

Run debsecan, rc-alert, wnpp-alert and manpage-alert (from the
devscripts package) on a random machine whenever you have development
time and work on one issue from the output of each of those scripts.

Package software you use that isn't yet available in Debian.

The Debian release team recently posted a call for help with squeeze:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00002.html

Other core teams may also need new members, for example the security
team is currently unable to provide security support for testing like
they used to do.

More ways to help can be found here:

http://www.debian.org/devel/join/

1. Probably the most common non-free software in modern computers is
the x86 BIOS. In addition, hard drives, wireless cards and so on
contain non-free firmware. Hopefully some day we'll all be running
chips fabricated from OpenCores designs and running free firmware :)
Here are a couple of relevant blog posts about hardware and free
software.

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/log/2009/09/19/personal-software-freedom/
http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/20091017-00
http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/coreboot-on-the-cover-of-the-linux-journal

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MJ Ray | 22 Oct 17:46 2009

Re: page for listing donors for Debian Project?

Paul Wise wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jeremiah Foster
> <jeremiah <at> jeremiahfoster.com> wrote:
> >        Gnutiken, an economic co-operative based in Gothenburg, Sweden
> > (http://gnutiken.se/) would like to be a partner with debian. [...]
> >        What is the best way for Gnutiken to participate in the debian
> > partner program?
> 
> As a start, please take a look at the partners web pages:
> 
> http://www.debian.org/partners/
> http://www.debian.org/partners/partners
> http://www.debian.org/partners/partners-form
> 
> Sounds like Gnutiken would be more of a development partner than
> service partner at the current stage of it's life. There are various
> ways your members could help with Debian development, here are some
> ideas that may or may not qualify Gnutiken for "Debian partner"
> status, but would certainly help Debian.

Has any tech worker co-op ever achieved "Debian partner" status?

Unless the co-op supplies equipment, the criteria look pretty
unattainable, unless debian has some need for paid maintainers,
technical service or consulting that isn't widely known.

How up-to-date is the partner list?  Black Cat Networks are
listed, but I think they are gone - the link goes to RapidSwitch
and http://www.earth.li/~noodles/blog/2007/08/new-house.html
says it was sold.  If you need a new domain registration partner,
software.coop would probably do it.

What does debian need that would qualify for partner status?
I think most co-ops work on the basis of giving when asked,
rather than offering random stuff we think might be wanted.

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