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Alexander Schmehl | 5 Mar 2007 19:25

Re: Debian French localisation team completes the translation of debconf screens

Hi!

* Christian Perrier <bubulle <at> debian.org> [070303 17:50]:
> (crossposted to several mailing lists. Please respect the Reply-To field)
(Added an other list, which might be interested; leaving full quote for
the -publicity folks.)

Anyone would like to summarize it for times.debian.net?

> As of March 3rd 2007, all packages in Debian unstable that have
> translatable debconf templates are translated into French [1].
> 
> This is the result of a continuous effort in the last years and
> particularly the last 4.5 years, since the upload of po-debconf back
> in September 2002 by Denis Barbier which enabled translators to use
> gettext to handle debconf translations.
> 
> This achievement, combined with the translation of the Debian
> Installer, is the guarantee that even a complete installation of a
> Debian system with all possible packages, when run in French, will
> only show French-speaking prompts to the user.
> 
> That effort is also ongoing for several other languages [2], thanks to
> the commitment of the numerous contributors from the Debian
> internationalisation community [3].
> 
> All thanks and credits for the achievement of the French localisation
> are due to the French translators [5] as well as all Debian package
> maintainers who have regularly fixed the dozens of bug reports sent
> by translators over the years.
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Adrian von Bidder | 24 Mar 2007 11:20
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Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

Hi all,

I'm a bit disappointed at this point.  I followed up on the recent 
informationweek article to get permission to list Linden Lab as a Debian 
user on our users page, sent mail to debian-www a few weeks ago only to 
have that email completely ignored.  Such stuff happening is also making 
Debian look bad: I requested permission to list Linden as a Debian user and 
very promptly got a reply from their press guys, so it'd be only fair to 
act now and have them listed.

<http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/03/msg00087.html>

Could somebody with commit access and WML skillz please do that small update 
to the web?

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Linden Lab, USA

<p><a href="http://lindenlab.com/">Linden Lab</a>, the makers of the famous 
online game <a href="http://secondlife.com/">Second Life</a>, run Debian on 
their server farm of about 2000 Intel- and AMD based servers.  Ian Wilkes, 
Director of Operations, explains their choice of operating system: "Debian 
provides a stable, high-quality distribution supported by
responsive and responsible package maintainers.  It's a key component
of our low-overhead server operations strategy."</p>
=====

(Or can I have commit rights for these very occasional updates?  I don't 
follow debian-www, but I'll always inform them when I update the web site.)
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Andrei Popescu | 24 Mar 2007 12:04
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Commit policy [Was: Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian]

Adrian von Bidder <cmot <at> debian.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm a bit disappointed at this point.  I followed up on the recent 
> informationweek article to get permission to list Linden Lab as a
> Debian user on our users page, sent mail to debian-www a few weeks
> ago only to have that email completely ignored.  Such stuff happening

[...]

> (Or can I have commit rights for these very occasional updates?  I
> don't follow debian-www, but I'll always inform them when I update
> the web site.)

As a translator for Romanian pages I have commit access and AFAIU it is
not limited to the Romanian sections.

Would it be ok if I commit such changes or is there some policy (written
or not) to not touch other parts of the site?

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. I only want to help as I understand some of the site devs may be
busy with other stuff.
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MJ Ray | 24 Mar 2007 13:19
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Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

Adrian von Bidder <cmot <at> debian.org> wrote:
> Such stuff happening is also making Debian look bad: [...]
> <http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2007/03/msg00087.html> [...]
> Could somebody with commit access and WML skillz please do that small update 
> to the web?

1. You're asking people to do work;
2. I'm damned busy and I only got commit access to work on mirrors,
really;
3. Anything mentioning Second Life is *very* likely to get tagged as
spam - I assume that's what happened to your original message;
4. You did not send anything resembling a valid patch, so I don't
think you should get commit access yet because you haven't read
the fine manuals;
5. I've added lindenlab.wml to the web sources;
6. I don't think this makes anyone look bad besides you, if you
gave Linden Lab the impression you could deliver more than you can.

Hope that helps,
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Kaare Olsen | 25 Mar 2007 20:47
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Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:20:04 +0100
Adrian von Bidder <cmot <at> debian.org> wrote:

> I'm a bit disappointed at this point.  I followed up on the recent 
> informationweek article to get permission to list Linden Lab as a Debian 
> user on our users page, sent mail to debian-www a few weeks ago only to 
> have that email completely ignored.

I'm the one who usually process submissions to the "Who's using Debian" page.

Submissions aren't ignored, but taken care of when I can spare several hours to "scan" debian-www for new
submissions, get entries not submitted in English translated, check that any mentioned web site is
active, fix spelling and wording to the best of my abilities, etc.  The best investment of my time is to
process multiple submissions at once.

Thanks to slef for taking care of this submission.

> Such stuff happening is also making 
> Debian look bad: I requested permission to list Linden as a Debian user and 
> very promptly got a reply from their press guys, so it'd be only fair to 
> act now and have them listed.

Next time please make sure someone on debian-www is ready to add the submission when you expect it to be
added; this could easily have been worked out.

Please be aware that debian-www doesn't write the entries, as I now realize you were expecting in the
original mail.  The guidelines are at the bottom of the page.

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Adrian von Bidder | 26 Mar 2007 08:54
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Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

Yo,

I guess I owe you an apology, and thanks for taking care of it now.

On Saturday 24 March 2007 13:19, MJ Ray wrote:
> 1. You're asking people to do work;

Yep.  I did some work, too, and I don't have permission to do the rest of 
it.

> 2. I'm damned busy and I only got commit access to work on mirrors,
> really;

I didn't ask you personally, did I.

> 3. Anything mentioning Second Life is *very* likely to get tagged as
> spam - I assume that's what happened to your original message;

Possible.

> 4. You did not send anything resembling a valid patch, so I don't
> think you should get commit access yet because you haven't read
> the fine manuals;

Offering a patch doesn't always make a difference to the web team, 
apparently - #325698 is open for 1y207d without one single comment.

> 5. I've added lindenlab.wml to the web sources;

Thanks.
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Alexander Schmehl | 26 Mar 2007 11:00

Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

Hi!

* Kaare Olsen <kaare <at> nightcall.dk> [070325 20:47]:

> Next time please make sure someone on debian-www is ready to add the
> submission when you expect it to be added; this could easily have been
> worked out.

So it would be okay with you, if someone from us adds something to the
user page?

Yours sincerely,
  Alexander
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andremachado | 26 Mar 2007 15:47
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who is using Debian page

Hello, Kaare
You may be find worth to look at
http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/casos_de_sucesso_com_linux
There are many Debian success stories listed at the first section.
The page is updated frequently (around twice per week). You may want to register and subscribe to
notifications to that page, or use RSS.
Also, there is a link to google automatic translation ("this page in English") just above the article title.

Regards.
Andre Felipe Machado

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:47:15 +0200, Kaare Olsen <kaare <at> nightcall.dk> wrote:
> I'm the one who usually process submissions to the "Who's using Debian"
> page.
> The best investment
> of my time is to process multiple submissions at once.

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Kaare Olsen | 26 Mar 2007 16:18
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Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:00:15 +0200
Alexander Schmehl <alexander <at> schmehl.info> wrote:

> > Next time please make sure someone on debian-www is ready to add the
> > submission when you expect it to be added; this could easily have been
> > worked out.
> 
> So it would be okay with you, if someone from us adds something to the
> user page?

I guess "us" means debian-publicity?  For my part I have no problem with this (make sure that the
organizations are willing to be listed); in fact I think it's a very good idea.

Since I'm not entitled to make any decisions, please wait for comments from others in the web team.

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MJ Ray | 26 Mar 2007 16:24
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Re: Linden Lab (Second Life) using Debian

Kaare Olsen <kaare <at> nightcall.dk> wrote:
> Alexander Schmehl <alexander <at> schmehl.info> wrote:
> > So it would be okay with you, if someone from us adds something to the
> > user page?
>
> I guess "us" means debian-publicity?  For my part I have no problem with this (make sure that the
organizations are willing to be listed); in fact I think it's a very good idea.
>
> Since I'm not entitled to make any decisions, please wait for comments from others in the web team.

Just in case that includes me: I'd be happy with Tolimar adding (he
corrected an error in my lindenlab.wml after all).  In general, I
wonder whether this will lead to too much news-style ick in the user
list. That would make it have less impact, as readers will notice and
may discount it as marketing more than reports.

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