Denny Nebgen | 4 Aug 14:28 2011
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Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was 
surprised the only options involved installation before I could even try 
the distro out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it out 
without an installation?

Thanks,

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Hickory Ridge Machine
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Alexander Wirt | 4 Aug 15:08 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

Denny Nebgen schrieb am Thursday, den 04. August 2011:

> Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was
> surprised the only options involved installation before I could even
> try the distro out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it
> out without an installation?
http://live.debian.net/

Alex

Dejan Ribič | 4 Aug 15:10 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

S, Denny Nebgen piše:
> Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was 
> surprised the only options involved installation before I could even 
> try the distro out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it out 
> without an installation?
>
> Thanks,
>
Hi,

   you have to download Live Debian from:

http://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Cheers,

Dejan

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Didier Raboud | 4 Aug 15:10 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

Denny Nebgen wrote:

> Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was
> surprised the only options involved installation before I could even try
> the distro out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it out
> without an installation?
> 
> Thanks,

Hi, 

you should take a look at the release notes for Squeeze [0], that point to 
Debian Live:

http://www.debian.org/CD/live/

Hoping that this helps, with cheers,

OdyX

[0] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-
new.html#live

Paul Wise | 5 Aug 18:52 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Denny Nebgen wrote:

> Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was surprised
> the only options involved installation before I could even try the distro
> out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it out without an
> installation?

As other folks pointed out there is Debian Live, but I'm wondering how
you came to the conclusion that Debian does not have LiveCDs. If this
is an issue with the Debian website, could you please report a bug
against the www.debian.org pseudo-package? If not, some information
about how you came to that conclusion might be useful.

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Paul Wise | 6 Aug 12:32 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 14:36 -0400, Denny Nebgen wrote:

> Hi Paul, I downloaded and burned an iso image cd of debian and when I 
> ran the cd, the only options were to install and not run live. My first 
> experience with Debian linux so, I may be misinterpreting something. I 
> run Mepis now and like it but was wanting to try others. Thanks

I guess there are a few issues:

      * The default images we point people to are install images rather
        than live images. Our live images are also install images IIRC.
      * The install images don't have any information pointing at our
        live images.
      * Probably most desktop users will want to check out Debian on
        live images before installing it.

I wonder what would be the best way to prevent further confusion, any
ideas?

Maybe we should just point people at the page where they can choose a
method of installing or trying Debian, would that be OK?

http://www.debian.org/distrib/

On the other hand I guess the web team had a reason to point the
download link on the front page directly to an installer image.

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Denny Nebgen | 6 Aug 12:21 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

Hi Paul, I downloaded and burned an iso image cd of debian and when I 
ran the cd, the only options were to install and not run live. My first 
experience with Debian linux so, I may be misinterpreting something. I 
run Mepis now and like it but was wanting to try others. Thanks

On 08/05/2011 12:52 PM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Denny Nebgen wrote:
>
>> Hi iI was interested in trying Debian Linux on a laptop and was surprised
>> the only options involved installation before I could even try the distro
>> out. Is this the normal way it works? No trying it out without an
>> installation?
> As other folks pointed out there is Debian Live, but I'm wondering how
> you came to the conclusion that Debian does not have LiveCDs. If this
> is an issue with the Debian website, could you please report a bug
> against the www.debian.org pseudo-package? If not, some information
> about how you came to that conclusion might be useful.
>

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Dennis Nebgen
Hickory Ridge Farm
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668 Strongs Rd.
Irvona, PA 16656
814-672-3009

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Ben Armstrong | 6 Aug 13:13 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

On 06/08/11 07:32 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 14:36 -0400, Denny Nebgen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul, I downloaded and burned an iso image cd of debian and when I 
>> ran the cd, the only options were to install and not run live. My first 
>> experience with Debian linux so, I may be misinterpreting something. I 
>> run Mepis now and like it but was wanting to try others. Thanks
> 
> I guess there are a few issues:
> 
>       * The default images we point people to are install images rather
>         than live images. Our live images are also install images IIRC.

You mean the "Download Debian 6.0" button on the home page? I haven't
heard from Denny if that's how he obtained it, but the button is quite
clear as to what the image is (i.e. does not contain the word "live"). I
still believe it's the best choice. It's much smaller than the live
images and so is quick to download, and handles a much broader range of
install scenarios than the live images.

>       * The install images don't have any information pointing at our
>         live images.

That's an interesting idea, but where would that go? In the help at the
boot menu?

>       * Probably most desktop users will want to check out Debian on
>         live images before installing it.

Possibly. It's a tradeoff. If you just want to get started installing
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Paul Wise | 6 Aug 13:19 2011
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Re: Doesn't Debian work from a live cd?

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote:

> You mean the "Download Debian 6.0" button on the home page?

Yep.

> I haven't heard from Denny if that's how he obtained it, but the button is quite
> clear as to what the image is (i.e. does not contain the word "live"). I
> still believe it's the best choice. It's much smaller than the live
> images and so is quick to download, and handles a much broader range of
> install scenarios than the live images.

Yeah, its tricky.

>>       * The install images don't have any information pointing at our
>>         live images.
>
> That's an interesting idea, but where would that go? In the help at the
> boot menu?

Yeah, either that or a menu item in the boot menu, which might be more visible.

>>       * Probably most desktop users will want to check out Debian on
>>         live images before installing it.
>
> Possibly. It's a tradeoff. If you just want to get started installing
> Debian as quickly as possible, the live image is not the way to go.

True.

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Didier Raboud | 7 Aug 23:26 2011
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Hi all, 

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        http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise/SwissKnives

All the needed information is already available on the Debian wiki, but let me 
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  Debian.ch is about to order Debian-branded Swiss Knives, based on received
  pre-orders on the above wiki page by the end of August 2011.

  Two models⁰ are available:
    a) the big "Nomad", with 11 functions (34 CHF)
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  … in two colors⁰:
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  For each model (no matter the proportions of chosen colors), there is a
  needed minimum amount of pre-orders for the final order to happen for a
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  The prices are the current market prices, they include branding and gift-box
  and are the maximum you can expect to pay¹. Those prices don't include
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  The pre-ordering period will end on 31. August 2011. Some time after that,
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