Ruslanas Gžibovskis | 1 Jul 23:45 2011
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question about Debian Logo with Debian

Hello, how are you?


About me:
I am using Debian at work (workstation), home (laptop), home (mldonkey and torrentflux and samba server), and some hosting and multimedia desktop servers.
writing my own Linux blog, where most manuals are based on Debian.
Sometimes help my co-worker to maintain http://debian.mirror.vu.lt 

Question:
I wanted to print some stickers on my car and one of them would be Debian Logo with words: "I use *Debian logo* where i can, where i can't I use *Linux logo*"

Some Researches:
I have searched your web:
Can I use Debian Logo with Debian name for that purpose (my english isn't very well as you can see), so i didn't clearly understand if I can use it, it's not for Business, but for my personal use.

Thank you.
Waiting for your reply.
Have a nice $day_time

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Stefano Zacchiroli | 3 Jul 10:29 2011
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf9/10[/11] accounting summary

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 08:35:36PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:
> I am one of the people watching the budget for DebConf, and as part of
> that I have recently gone back and tabulated an actual balance sheet
> for DebConf9 and DebConf10.  I thought I would share it here.

Thanks for this report Richard, it's very valuable in determining
whether we could keep for DebConf some of the goals we have set earlier
on this year.

For those who haven't followed discussions on the debconf-team list, a
brief summary is in order. DebConf finances are Debian's finances, but
at the same time DebConf needs some autonomy in dealing with money for a
time window centered on the event itself. We have hereby decided that
from now on DebConf finances will be "forked" at the first need of
paying money for the forthcoming DebConf and "merged" back into Debian
finances proper ASAP after the end of the conference (usually,
immediately after the last big post-DebConf expenses have been paid).

In that respect, the notion of "surplus" from one DebConf to the other
is not as relevant as it was before. Nonetheless, it still is an
important figure to know, given that another important goal we have set
forward is that of having DebConf being an amortized 0 cost event. That
means that it is fine for a specific edition of DebConf to "gain" quite
some money, and for another to "lose" some, as long as we are
responsible and make an effort to have those effects balance each other
in the long run.

> DebConf 9 had €95715.65 income, €61130.10 expenses, for a net gain of
> €34585.55.  DC9 "took" €9960.17 from Debian (mostly at SPI; Debian
> allocated USD20k when the budget looked bad), used €462.00 of DC8
> surplus.  DC9 passed on €44970.55 on to DebConf10 (mostly at FFIS).
>   [dc09-bal] http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/dc9/
> 
> DebConf10 had €59716.21 of income, and €130300.76 of expenses, for a
> net loss of €34584.57.  DebConf10 took €44970.55 of DC9 surplus,
> €443.82 of DC8 surplus, and in the end returned €10580.45 to Debian.
> DC9 and DC10 combined had a large net transfer of Debian money from
> SPI to FFIS, since together they got more income in Europe and spent
> more in the USA.
>   [dc10-bal] http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/dc10/
> 
> Overall, these two conferences balanced each other out surprisingly
> well.

This is so, however, considering some non-surplus income coming "from
Debian", right? (your DebConf9 notes above on that subject are a bit
ambiguous to me, and I'm not sure I'm reading the ledger files right)

> The DC8 final report states there was further surplus money from DC8,
> on the order of €12000.  I am not tracking this, since I have no means
> to (and can't verify it myself), but I hope it was absorbed into
> Debian funds.  I don't know how much Debian has contributed to and
> taken back from DebConf up until and including DC8.

These seem to roughly correspond to DC9 initial "surplus", within an
error of ~2000 EUR.

Anyhow, at this point the above are a little more than details. One way
or another the numbers shows that: either in the past 2 years we have
already started respecting the desiderata of being an amortized 0 cost
event; or it is at hand's reach for future editions.

Thanks again for digging up the numbers,
Cheers.
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Stefano Zacchiroli | 4 Jul 11:32 2011
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Re: Debian Hardware Compatibility List (Debian hardware certification)

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:12:35PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:33:17AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 01:02:23PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > > We talked about the possibility to have their hardware being
> > > > certified as compatible with Debian, and have them advertize about
> > > > it on their website product pages.
> 
> It may have been mentiond here or elsewhere ...
> 
> K. Muto's 
>  "Debian GNU/Linux device driver check & report"
> is one interesting activity to gather compatible hardware database.
> 
>   http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
> 
> This provides extensive list of actual hardware devece supported by
> Debian GNU/Linux.  It relys on "lspci -n" and recent Debian kernel
> 2.6.39-1-686-pae.

I was not personally aware of this, thanks for the pointer.  It looks
like a valuable service, but unless we advertise it a bit more I doubt
it'll be able to reach out to (potential) Debian users.

> I guess, if we have simple POSIX shell script wrapper on 
>  * lspci -n (To get hardware list)
>  * uname -r (To get running kernel version)
> with simple dialog based rating for asking hardware functionality, we
> may be able to get fairly good data.

Agreed.

To advance on this, we need someone leading the initiative and, as step
0, add all the missing wrapping (live cd, submission interface, etc.).
Collaborative test suite and the like can be added later, once the
submission interface is ready.

I cannot volunteer to do that myself, but I'll be glad to support the
communication around the initiative, because I believe it'd be very
valuable.

Any taker?
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Paul Wise | 4 Jul 11:41 2011
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Re: Debian Hardware Compatibility List (Debian hardware certification)

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

> To advance on this, we need someone leading the initiative and, as step
> 0, add all the missing wrapping (live cd, submission interface, etc.).
> Collaborative test suite and the like can be added later, once the
> submission interface is ready.
>
> I cannot volunteer to do that myself, but I'll be glad to support the
> communication around the initiative, because I believe it'd be very
> valuable.

Another way would be to enhance the distro-neutral smolt project:

http://smolts.org/
https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/

Then the only thing that needs adding is the user feedback stuff.

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Moray Allan | 4 Jul 18:23 2011

Call for DebConf13 bids

Although we're still in the build-up to DebConf11, organising a
conference isn't quick, so it's already time for us to start thinking
about possible locations for DebConf13. We encourage everyone to think
about whether their city would make a good DebConf location, and, if
it would, to start working on a proposal.

There will be a chance to describe your bid to the rest of the DebConf
attendees during a special session at DebConf11, probably on 30 July.
Participating in this event is not a requirement to make a bid, but
all bids are encouraged to present something at this session, or to
send a few slides if no one from the bid team can be present.  Of
course, presenting in this session doesn't commit you to making a
formal bid -- if you are even considering a bid, please feel free to
use the session to seek feedback from attendees.

If you are considering bidding (and please do!), make a page for your
bid in the DebConf wiki, and add a link to
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13

You can find some more background information in Gunnar's blog post at
http://gwolf.org/blog/debconf13-home-why-not

If you have any questions, please get in touch with us, for example in
the #debconf-team channel on irc.debian.org.

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Richard Darst | 5 Jul 10:36 2011
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf9/10[/11] accounting summary

On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 10:29:44AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

> > DebConf 9 had €95715.65 income, €61130.10 expenses, for a net gain of
> > €34585.55.  DC9 "took" €9960.17 from Debian (mostly at SPI; Debian
> > allocated USD20k when the budget looked bad), used €462.00 of DC8
> > surplus.  DC9 passed on €44970.55 on to DebConf10 (mostly at FFIS).
> >   [dc09-bal] http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/dc9/
> > 
> > DebConf10 had €59716.21 of income, and €130300.76 of expenses, for a
                  €95716.21
> > net loss of €34584.57.  DebConf10 took €44970.55 of DC9 surplus,
> > €443.82 of DC8 surplus, and in the end returned €10580.45 to Debian.
> > DC9 and DC10 combined had a large net transfer of Debian money from
> > SPI to FFIS, since together they got more income in Europe and spent
> > more in the USA.
> >   [dc10-bal] http://rkd.zgib.net/http/debconf/dc10/
> > 
> > Overall, these two conferences balanced each other out surprisingly
> > well.
> 
> This is so, however, considering some non-surplus income coming "from
> Debian", right? (your DebConf9 notes above on that subject are a bit
> ambiguous to me, and I'm not sure I'm reading the ledger files right)

"income", "expenses" "net gain" and "net loss" above mean "actual
amounts raised specifically for and spent specifically for that
conference", thus it excludes anything to/from Debian or surpluses
from other years.

The to/from Debian and surplus related numbers explained _where_ that
net gain/net loss went to/came from.

> > The DC8 final report states there was further surplus money from DC8,
> > on the order of €12000.  I am not tracking this, since I have no means
> > to (and can't verify it myself), but I hope it was absorbed into
> > Debian funds.  I don't know how much Debian has contributed to and
> > taken back from DebConf up until and including DC8.
> 
> These seem to roughly correspond to DC9 initial "surplus", within an
> error of ~2000 EUR.

If DC8 surplus is considered to be what Debian gave DC9, then that
would be less taken "from debian general funds", so the overall
picture is more positive.

But then you'd ask how much of that originally came from Debian
general funds, and how much was extra income from past DebConfs.  And
soon I can't track where money comes and goes from (maybe someone else
can?), so rather than guessing I stick with what is trackable.  I will
update anything that I get more data for.

I'd like to point out other people have tracked money in the past, and
they can probably elaborate a lot here.  I don't want to imply that
past years were not tracked well, I just don't know.  (However, I do
hope I am making dc11 the best accounted-for debconf so far.)

I had more written, but it was not positive, so I removed it.  Accept
my general dissatisfaction and desire to just be able to track this
money well and be fiscally responsible.

- Richard

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Philip Hands | 5 Jul 13:48 2011

Re: Debian hardware certification

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 14:23:56 +0800, Paul Wise <pabs <at> debian.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Thomas Goirand <zigo <at> debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > That's the kind of very simple list that I was hoping to build. But the
> > list isn't the final goal. The goal is to *fix* issues when we see them,
> > like it happened for the X8STi-F in Debian 5.04.
> 
> In that case, are you sure that bugs.debian.org isn't what you are
> looking for?

That seems like a good idea -- how about if we encouraged willing hardware
manufacturers to maintain a pseudo package type thing, perhaps per
device, although it would be good to have some sort of wild-card so that
one could report a bug against hw-supermicro-mb-X8STi-F, and they could
resign it to hw-supermicro-nic-e1000 or some such, without us needing
to do more than let them tell us the contact email for their BTS or the
person in charge of fixing that device, say.

We'd just need to reserve the 'hw-' (or whatever) bit of the namespace,
and then allow people to apply for names under that, probably based on
whether they own the matching domain, but I've no idea how we might
handle disputes if a company splits, say).  Then there would need to be
a way of updating the maintainer address(es) -- probably best if a DD/DM
takes responsibility for being our contact with that company, and
handles that in the normal manner.  We could always set up a
manufacturer-liason team for that, if appropriate.

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Paul Wise | 5 Jul 22:56 2011
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Re: Debian hardware certification

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Philip Hands wrote:

> That seems like a good idea -- how about if we encouraged willing hardware
> manufacturers to maintain a pseudo package type thing, perhaps per
> device, although it would be good to have some sort of wild-card so that
> one could report a bug against hw-supermicro-mb-X8STi-F, and they could
> resign it to hw-supermicro-nic-e1000 or some such, without us needing
> to do more than let them tell us the contact email for their BTS or the
> person in charge of fixing that device, say.

I was thinking just file it against existing packages, like
linux/udev/firmware-nonfree/xorg-*. Usertags could be used to
categorise and group hardware related bugs across different packages

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Richard Darst | 6 Jul 17:10 2011
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Re: Getting DebConf attendees reimbursed quickly for travel costs

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 06:49:44PM -0400, Richard Darst wrote:

> One of my goals to help DebConf attendees get reimbursed quickly for
> their approved travel sponsorship costs.  There are two parts to this:

> --> Is this worth pursuing?

I heard one request to go through with this on IRC, but no one has
thought it valuable enough to request in this thread that I do this.
Thus, I won't spend more time on it, and leave it to the same process
as past years.

Of course, people could now reply and I still have time to arrange
things before DebConf.

By the way, we now have well over 50% of travel sponsorship money
collected, and probably more (bank accounts views just haven't been
updated yet).

- richard

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