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Gerfried Fuchs | 2 Nov 2010 07:58
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Re: Security trackers as XML

	Hi!

* Miguel Garcia <mhenriques <at> lasige.di.fc.ul.pt> [2010-10-29 15:30:23 CEST]:
> is there any way to get this pages  
> http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2008-1447 as XML ?or some  
> structured document. Some WS to access database.

 Does this help you:
<http://www.debian.org/security/oval/oval-definitions-2008.xml>

 Enjoy!
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Gerfried Fuchs | 2 Nov 2010 07:53
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Re: Report from openSUSE Conference

	Hello!

 As many people seem to be confused about this, I'd like to clearify it
on here, too:

* Gerfried Fuchs <rhonda <at> debian.org> [2010-10-27 09:51:54 CEST]:
> My impression was that very few distributions have followed the
> invitation, I am only aware of some Fedora people that have attended,
> and Vincent Untz from Ubuntu/GNOME (who gave a combined keynote with
> Cornelius Schumacher from KDE).

 Vincent actually is a Novell employee and was there obviously through
his involvement in openSUSE. The thing that led me to the impression to
call Vincent an Ubuntu person was that he was posting about the
conference to Planet Ubuntu which by definition is about Ubuntu centered
stuff, and is an Ubuntu member. Actually considering this I could have
called myself to be from Ubuntu attending, too.

 The much I'd like to call that the callout for attendees of other
distributions would had been more fruity, this leaves only the Fedora
people and myself representing Debian, besides from the openSUSE people
which naturally had a lot of interest in the conference.

 Thanks, and hope this explains some misunderstanding on my part.
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Miguel Garcia | 2 Nov 2010 10:53
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Re: Security trackers as XML

Thanks, it may helps. I was expecting having the real patch there, but 
it is also good!
Thanks

On 11/02/2010 06:58 AM, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> 	Hi!
>
> * Miguel Garcia<mhenriques <at> lasige.di.fc.ul.pt>  [2010-10-29 15:30:23 CEST]:
>> is there any way to get this pages
>> http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2008-1447 as XML ?or some
>> structured document. Some WS to access database.
>   Does this help you:
> <http://www.debian.org/security/oval/oval-definitions-2008.xml>
>
>   Enjoy!
> Rhonda

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Peter Palfrader | 3 Nov 2010 13:41
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Re: Merkel going away

On Sun, 05 Sep 2010, Stephen Gran wrote:

> merkel.debian.org, aka nm.debian.org, qa.debian.org, etc., has become
> increasingly unstable over the past few months.  Due to upcoming changes
> in the hosting for all the machines hosted at Fort Collins, we have
> decided to ask the hoster to leave it turned off when they move the
> other machines.

Just a short update here.  It looks like the people at FtC haven't moved
any of our gear as originally scheduled, and probably won't be doing
anything at least this year.  New date is probably early next year,
we'll see.

In the meantime, nm has moved to nono, qa to quantz.  The dd accessible
copy of ftp-master is still on merkel.

Cheers,
weasel
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Henri Le Foll | 3 Nov 2010 21:15
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non-uploading DM

in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/11/msg00000.html
(the Guidelines for applying as non-uploading DD),
I understand that the process is the same for uploading and
non-uploading DM.

To become a DM is a good thing to become an uploading DD.

An non-uploading DD as to wait for
 * an Application Manager's assignment
 * an AM report
 * Front Desk approval
 * DAM approval
 * the creation of the account

Would it be a lot of work for the DM team to ask non uploading DD to
wait some time (perhaps 6 month) as non uploading DM.

cheers

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Joerg Jaspert | 3 Nov 2010 21:22
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Re: non-uploading DM

> Would it be a lot of work for the DM team to ask non uploading DD to
> wait some time (perhaps 6 month) as non uploading DM.

This makes no sense.
A DM is defined as someone who can upload a specially marked packaged.
WTF is a non-uploading DM? So a non-uploading uploader of a package? What?

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Gerfried Fuchs | 3 Nov 2010 21:22
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Re: non-uploading DM

        Hi!

* Henri Le Foll <debian <at> lefoll.eu> [2010-11-03 21:15:02 CET]:
> in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/11/msg00000.html
> (the Guidelines for applying as non-uploading DD),
> I understand that the process is the same for uploading and
> non-uploading DM.

 Uh? Where did you pick up about non-uploading DMs? What would
non-uploading DMs be anyway? The guidelines speak about non-uploading
DDs, there are no non-uploading DMs because that doesn't make any sense.
The DM role is for upload-rights of a well defined set of packages only -
such a permission set doesn't make any sense for non-uploading DDs.

 Hope this clears some confusion. :)
Rhonda
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Henri Le Foll | 3 Nov 2010 21:31
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Re: non-uploading DM

It was just to suggest that every DD should go the same way.
To say that the decision to become a non-uploading DD should take some time

"Of course, people still need a signed gpg key, and need to agree to
uphold our SC, the DFSG, and the DMUP."

That what is needed to become a DM.(with the advocacy.)

Henri Le Foll
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Gerfried Fuchs | 3 Nov 2010 21:46
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Re: non-uploading DM

        Hi!

* Henri Le Foll <debian <at> lefoll.eu> [2010-11-03 21:31:51 CET]:
> It was just to suggest that every DD should go the same way.
> To say that the decision to become a non-uploading DD should take some time

 The decision definitely will take some time, I highly doubt that the
frontdesk will accept non-uploading DDs who just started to get involved
with Debian last week. See my mail to debian-newmaint about an example
of how long some people have been working for Debian without having the
chance to properly raise their voice and opinion in the project.

 A non-uploading DM state doesn't make any sense, and like said, I
highly doubt that the frontdesk would accept people that just got
involved recently without proper contribution trail.

 Thanks,
Rhonda
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Henri Le Foll | 3 Nov 2010 22:02
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on terminology

in jully there was an interesting discussion on terminology.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2010/07/msg00010.html

I think that the name could change.

replace "Debian Maintainer" by "Debian Appliant" or "Debian Contributor"

replace "Debian Developper" by "Debian Member"

replace "New maintainer process" by some other thing.

Say that every one who want to get involve in Debian should find a
"Debian Member" to advocate him to become a "Debian Appliant"
(it can take a few monthes)

a "Debian Member" with uploading rights can allow a "Debian Appliant" or
a "non uploading Debian Member" to upload a specific package.

after a few monthes, "Debian Members" can advocate a "Debian Appliant"
to become a "Debian Member"
and it can take a few monthes

I just say it can be the same steps for every one.

I want to know if it will be a lot of work for the appliant team to
maintain the key-ring

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