1 Sep 2007 13:51
1 Sep 2007 15:04
Re: Installing etch on seagate-HDD
Sebastiaan Couwenberg <sebastic <at> xs4all.nl>
2007-09-01 13:04:00 GMT
2007-09-01 13:04:00 GMT
Eugene Kovalenja wrote: > I've a problem with installing system (Debian etch) on hard Seagate > ST3500630NS > When checking disks, write "Driver not found" > Why and how to install etch on this HDD? debian-project is probably not the best place to ask these questions, debian-user would be a better place: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ But to help you out, I had the same problem when installing Debian Unstable on my new Intel P35 motherboard. The SATA controller was not supported by the kernel version in the current stable Debian Installer. I got it working with the backported Debian Installer by Kenshi Muto: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ And with one of the more current daily builds of the Debian Installer from: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ You could try one of these to see of the newer kernels in these Debian Installer builds include support for your SATA controllers chipset (to which your Seagate SATA HDD is connected). Regards, Bas(Continue reading)
3 Sep 2007 15:46
Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen
<Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de>
2007-09-03 13:46:40 GMT
2007-09-03 13:46:40 GMT
Guten Tag, das Betreibssystem Debian 4.0, welches auf der Heft-CD vom "LINUX-Magazin" 07/07 ist, würde ich gerne installieren. Ich kenne mich nicht besonders aus mit LINUX. Meine Frage ist, kann ich Debian 4.0 auf einem Pentium I mit 166 Mhz? Wenn nein, welche der LINUX Systeme würde sich eignen? Über eine Antwort würde ich mich sehr freuen! Danke! MfG -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-REQUEST <at> lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster <at> lists.debian.org
3 Sep 2007 16:42
Re: Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen
Jan Hauke Rahm <info <at> jhr-online.de>
2007-09-03 14:42:38 GMT
2007-09-03 14:42:38 GMT
This german User asks for installation help. I'm redirecting to debian-user-german. Hauke On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 03:46:40PM +0200, Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de wrote: > Guten Tag, > das Betreibssystem Debian 4.0, welches auf der Heft-CD vom > "LINUX-Magazin" 07/07 ist, würde ich gerne installieren. Ich kenne > mich nicht besonders aus mit LINUX. Meine Frage ist, kann ich Debian > 4.0 auf einem Pentium I mit 166 Mhz? Wenn nein, welche der LINUX > Systeme würde sich eignen? Über eine Antwort würde ich mich sehr > freuen! Danke! Dies ist die falsche Liste für soetwas. Solche Fragen sind besser auf debian-user-german aufgehoben (mal ganz davon abgesehen, dass diese Liste englisch ist). Für nähere Infos oder Hilfe bitte persönliche Mails an mich. Diese Liste ist voll genug ;) Hauke
3 Sep 2007 16:22
Re: Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen
Patrick Winnertz <winnie <at> der-winnie.de>
2007-09-03 14:22:22 GMT
2007-09-03 14:22:22 GMT
Am Montag, 3. September 2007 15:46:40 schrieb Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de: > Guten Tag, > das Betreibssystem Debian 4.0, welches auf der Heft-CD vom > "LINUX-Magazin" 07/07 ist, würde ich gerne installieren. Ich kenne mich > nicht besonders aus mit LINUX. Meine Frage ist, kann ich Debian 4.0 auf > einem Pentium I mit 166 Mhz? Wenn nein, welche der LINUX Systeme würde > sich eignen? Über eine Antwort würde ich mich sehr freuen! Danke! MfG Hello, This is an english mailinglist, so please write the next time in english.. :) Now here the translated message: """ I would like to install Debian 4.0 which is included on the linux-magazin dvd. I'm not very familiar with linux. my question is: is it possible to install this on a pentium I with 166MHz cpu? If not. which linux system could be used for this computer? """ Greetings Winnie -- -- .''`. Patrick Winnertz <patrick.winnertz <at> skolelinux.org> : :' : GNU/Linux Debian-Edu Developer `. `'` http://www.der-winnie.de http://d.skolelinux.org/~winnie `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems
4 Sep 2007 15:13
Re: Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen
<Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de>
2007-09-04 13:13:10 GMT
2007-09-04 13:13:10 GMT
Hello, thx for the translated message. Can you answer to my questions, please? I would like to install Debian 4.0 which is included on the linux-magazin dvd. I'm not very familiar with linux. my question is: is it possible to install this on a pentium I with 166MHz cpu? If not. which linux system could be used for this computer? Nice greets -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:22:22 +0200 > Von: Patrick Winnertz <winnie <at> der-winnie.de> > An: debian-project <at> lists.debian.org > CC: Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de > Betreff: Re: Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen > Am Montag, 3. September 2007 15:46:40 schrieb Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de: > > Guten Tag, > > das Betreibssystem Debian 4.0, welches auf der Heft-CD vom > > "LINUX-Magazin" 07/07 ist, würde ich gerne installieren. Ich kenne mich > > nicht besonders aus mit LINUX. Meine Frage ist, kann ich Debian 4.0 auf > > einem Pentium I mit 166 Mhz? Wenn nein, welche der LINUX Systeme würde > > sich eignen? Über eine Antwort würde ich mich sehr freuen! Danke! MfG > Hello, > This is an english mailinglist, so please write the next time in > english.. :) > > Now here the translated message: > """(Continue reading)
4 Sep 2007 15:49
Re: Debian 4.0 Systemvoraussetzungen
Jan Hauke Rahm <info <at> jhr-online.de>
2007-09-04 13:49:25 GMT
2007-09-04 13:49:25 GMT
Again, this is the wrong mailing list for such questions. I will answer it in a private Mail for you personally. Hauke On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 03:13:10PM +0200, Dioxin_info <at> gmx.de wrote: > Hello, > > thx for the translated message. Can you answer to my questions, please? > > I would like to install Debian 4.0 which is included on the linux-magazin > dvd. I'm not very familiar with linux. my question is: is it possible to > install this on a pentium I with 166MHz cpu? If not. which linux system > could be used for this computer? > > Nice greets
4 Sep 2007 17:35
Debian GNU/Linux license violation
Gomi No Sensei <gomi.no.sensei <at> gmail.com>
2007-09-04 15:35:26 GMT
2007-09-04 15:35:26 GMT
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gomi No Sensei <gomi.no.sensei <at> gmail.com>
Date: Sep 4, 2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Fwd: PhotoVu Inquiry: 48889582 - 17" Frame, Open-source
To: license-violation <at> gpl-violations.org
The following email is self-explanatory. The device sold at www.photovu.com is based on a modified Debian, but the company will not disclose the source.
The quote is: "We will never have an open platform as we do not have the resources to support such an open product in the field. It's not that we wouldn't like to, as we believe in open source and in fact use a customized base debian distribution with the addition of all our custom software on top. .... The last reason is why we weld our units shut and the aluminum metal must be cut and drilled to open it up!"
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: PhotoVu Sales < pv-sales06 <at> photovu.com >
Date: Sep 4, 2007 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: PhotoVu Inquiry: 48889582 - 17" Frame, Open-source
To: gomi.no.sensei <at> gmail.com
Hi Sean:
Please see answers below.
Thanks for your interest in PhotoVu.
Sales <at> PhotoVu wrote:
<off-topic section removed>Please see answers below.
Thanks for your interest in PhotoVu.
PhotoVu Sales <pv-sales06 <at> photovu.com>
(303) 444-5566 Boulder, CO
www.photovu.com "out of the shoebox & onto the wall"
Sales <at> PhotoVu wrote:
Below is your PhotoVu Inquiry Confirmation email. Please ensure that your SPAM filter ALLOWS emails from PhotoVu.com.
Inquiry Number: 48889582
Contact Information
-------------------
Sean McManus --
gomi.no.sensei <at> gmail.com +1 360-665-2502 WA US Subject ------- Sales - 17" Frame, Open-source Question -------- I am a consultant, and have a client who has asked me to evaluate and acquire a solution
for an internal signage application. The opportunity is initially for 20-25 frames.
I have seen your frames in use before, but had a few questions.
2) I am aware that your platform is Linux on a VIA embedded system. The client's applicationWe will never have an open platform as we do not have the resources to support such an open product in the field. It's not that we wouldn't like to, as we believe in open source and in fact use a customized base debian distribution with the addition of all our custom software on top. It's just that we can barely keep our head above water supporting our current base of users (which our non-technical consumers) (that's why we finally have started to generate a knowledge base). Opening our product up to hackers would present a support nightmare, not to mention the product liability of somebody electrocuting themselves. The last reason is why we weld our units shut and the aluminum metal must be cut and drilled to open it up!
would likely require some minor customization to the frame -- possibly filtering of an RSS
feed or special scanning treatment of a network folder (the application is not yet implemented).
Despite searching your site, I have not found any detailed information about the Linux implementation
or about accessibility to the internals. Please advise on this.
Supporting RSS feeds from several different service providers with ever changing feed specs has not been trivial nor do we expect it to be in the future. We are working on a MAJOR software upgrade to be released this Fall, which will support digital signage, as it's a market that is growing for us and finally seems to be heating up. For q 20-25, we would be willing to make the necessary modifications for you if it's something we thought we could leverage, while we are working on this software piece. We have a lot of customers using our frames in digital signage. I hope you will still consider being one of them. We are a small company and think you find us easy to work with and most likely be able to make your modifications quickly for you.
Regards,
PhotoVu Sales
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If you have any questions about this inquiry or would like to talk with a PhotoVu representative, please contact us using the following:
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4 Sep 2007 20:13
Re: Debian GNU/Linux license violation
Gunnar Wolf <gwolf <at> gwolf.org>
2007-09-04 18:13:41 GMT
2007-09-04 18:13:41 GMT
Gomi No Sensei dijo [Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:35:26AM -0700]: > The following email is self-explanatory. The device sold at > www.photovu.comis based on a modified Debian, but the company will not > disclose the source. > > The quote is: "We will never have an open platform as we do not have the > resources to support such an open product in the field. It's not that we > wouldn't like to, as we believe in open source and in fact use a customized > base debian distribution with the addition of all our custom software on > top. .... The last reason is why we weld our units shut and the aluminum > metal must be cut and drilled to open it up!" Hi, Please explain a bit further on this: What are the product's modifications on Debian that you require them to distribute? Thing is, although this people's argument (i.e. "the system being open to hackers" and all) is quite flawed, Debian is a _distribution_, it is not -as a whole- made available on a Copyleft license. If you spot they have modified the Linux kernel, the GNU tools, the compiler, etc., then you can demand them sources for their modifications - But you can freely mix Debian and completely propietary code. And you will not be forced to disclose your propietary sources - But modifications made to copylefted (note that _not_ every Free Software license is copyleft) software should be released as well. Greetings, -- -- Gunnar Wolf - gwolf <at> gwolf.org - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF
4 Sep 2007 23:51
Re: Debian GNU/Linux license violation
Joachim Breitner <nomeata <at> debian.org>
2007-09-04 21:51:00 GMT
2007-09-04 21:51:00 GMT
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 04.09.2007, 13:13 -0500 schrieb Gunnar Wolf: > Gomi No Sensei dijo [Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 08:35:26AM -0700]: > > The following email is self-explanatory. The device sold at > > www.photovu.comis based on a modified Debian, but the company will not > > disclose the source. > > > > The quote is: "We will never have an open platform as we do not have the > > resources to support such an open product in the field. It's not that we > > wouldn't like to, as we believe in open source and in fact use a customized > > base debian distribution with the addition of all our custom software on > > top. .... The last reason is why we weld our units shut and the aluminum > > metal must be cut and drilled to open it up!" > > Please explain a bit further on this: What are the product's > modifications on Debian that you require them to distribute? Thing is, > although this people's argument (i.e. "the system being open to > hackers" and all) is quite flawed, Debian is a _distribution_, it is > not -as a whole- made available on a Copyleft license. > > If you spot they have modified the Linux kernel, the GNU tools, the > compiler, etc., then you can demand them sources for their > modifications - But you can freely mix Debian and completely > propietary code. And you will not be forced to disclose your > propietary sources - But modifications made to copylefted (note that > _not_ every Free Software license is copyleft) software should be > released as well. You might want to bring this issue to http://gpl-violations.org/ they have a reputation of getting people to publish their sources. Greetings, Joachim -- -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nomeata <at> debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: joachimbreitner <at> amessage.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
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