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Branden Robinson | 2 Jan 2004 12:52
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Debconf 4 in Brazil and U.S. travelers

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20040101/ts_nm/brazil_usa_immigration_dc

I wonder if any U.S. people will be able to apply for exemption from
this policy...

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Alain Dos Reis | 2 Jan 2004 14:34

question

bonjour;

Je voudrai savoir quand va-t-elle sortir la debian sarge pour cette 
année ou pas je ne sais pas laquelle installée et qu'il y a les nouveaux 
paquets ?

Merci d'avance

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Jaldhar H. Vyas | 2 Jan 2004 15:36
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Re: Debconf 4 in Brazil and U.S. travelers

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, Branden Robinson wrote:

> http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20040101/ts_nm/brazil_usa_immigration_dc
>
> I wonder if any U.S. people will be able to apply for exemption from
> this policy...
>

Ooh I knew about the concentration camps and the subjugation of an entire
continent but the Nazis *fingerprinted* people too?  My God, the depth of
their evil knows no bounds.

I'd still like to go to Brazil so I will go along with this policy but I
shall pick my nose first.

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Raphael Goulais | 2 Jan 2004 15:49

Re: question

On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 14:34, Alain Dos Reis wrote:
> Je voudrai savoir quand va-t-elle sortir la debian sarge pour cette 
> année ou pas je ne sais pas laquelle installée et qu'il y a les nouveaux 
> paquets ?

Aucune date n'est fixée pour la sortie de la Sarge pour le moment, mais
elle est prévue pour cette année.

De plus, la liste de diffusion debian-project n'est pas une liste
francophone mais une liste anglophone, les mails en très mauvais
français ne sont donc pas conseillés ici.

English translation:

No release date has been decided for Sarge at the moment, but it is
planned for this year.

The mailing list debian-project is not a french-speaking list but an
english-speaking one, mails in very poor french are thus not advised
here.

Cheers,

Raphael
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jerry perlman | 6 Jan 2004 05:06
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can the u.s. variant of debian be exported?

Can the u.s. variant of debian be exported? This is essentially my 
question,. I have a friend accross the border from the U.S. in mexico and 
want to know if i download Debian 3.0r2 can i export it to Mexico? thank you 
for your time in answering my question. And i know that the non u.s. version 
cannot be downloaded in the U.S. for private use, just want to confirm this.

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J.H.M. Dassen (Ray | 6 Jan 2004 13:42
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Re: can the u.s. variant of debian be exported?

On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 21:06:20 -0700, jerry perlman wrote:
> Can the u.s. variant of debian be exported?

Most likely, yes. http://www.debian.org/legal/ contains details regarding
cryptography in Debian, including copies of notifications to the US
government.

> This is essentially my question,. I have a friend accross the border from
> the U.S. in mexico and want to know if i download Debian 3.0r2 can i
> export it to Mexico? 

AFAIK yes. Mexico isn't on the limited list of states considered too evil by
the US for the export of cryptography.

>And i know that the non u.s. version cannot be downloaded in the U.S. for
>private use, just want to confirm this.

Not necessarily (there is some stuff there you shouldn't import into the US
due to patent issues, but most of the software on non-us has or had issues
when being exported from, not imported to the US). 
See http://non-us.debian.org/README.non-US for details.

HTH,
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Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader | 8 Jan 2004 15:54
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Debian and the Open Source Observatory

The EC has launched a new service known as the "Open Source
Observatory":
http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showChapter&chapterID=452&preChapterID=0

I just looked through all these pages to see whether Debian is
mentioned and to find out if we should submit more information.

There is a section "Open Source practice" with "Case studies zooming
in on certain Open Source adoptions in Member States."
http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showChapter&chapterID=470&preChapterID=0-452
There is already a case study about LinEx, but unfortunately it does
not mention Debian at all.  Since the author of this page is not
listed, I contacted Jesus M Gonzalez-Barahona to see if he can get in
touch with LinEx.

I think that it would be great to have a case study about the
adoption of Skolelinux.  Unfortunately, the page says "Member States"
so I'm not sure they'll accept a case study about Skolelinux in
Norway.  However, as Skolelinux is deployed in other countries a well,
perhaps someone else can volunteer to write something? (and then
mention all countries using Skolelinux)

I will suggest to the Open Source Observatory to create a listing of
FLOSS projects in the "Resources" section (listing KDE, GNOME, Debian,
etc).  They currently have a page about "OSS Centres and
Organisations: by country"
http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showDocument&documentID=1631&parent=chapter&preChapterID=0-452-471
but none about specific projects.  On the organization page, I think
Skolelinux and NUUG should be listed (as other organizations in
non-member countries are listed).  Debian-ES can also be listed there
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Paul E Condon | 8 Jan 2004 18:01
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Re: Debian and the Open Source Observatory

On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:54:48PM +0000, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote:
> The EC has launched a new service known as the "Open Source
> Observatory":
> http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showChapter&chapterID=452&preChapterID=0
> 
> I just looked through all these pages to see whether Debian is
> mentioned and to find out if we should submit more information.
> 
> There is a section "Open Source practice" with "Case studies zooming
> in on certain Open Source adoptions in Member States."
> http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showChapter&chapterID=470&preChapterID=0-452
> There is already a case study about LinEx, but unfortunately it does
> not mention Debian at all.  Since the author of this page is not
> listed, I contacted Jesus M Gonzalez-Barahona to see if he can get in
> touch with LinEx.
> 
> I think that it would be great to have a case study about the
> adoption of Skolelinux.  Unfortunately, the page says "Member States"
> so I'm not sure they'll accept a case study about Skolelinux in
> Norway.  However, as Skolelinux is deployed in other countries a well,
> perhaps someone else can volunteer to write something? (and then
> mention all countries using Skolelinux)
> 
> I will suggest to the Open Source Observatory to create a listing of
> FLOSS projects in the "Resources" section (listing KDE, GNOME, Debian,
> etc).  They currently have a page about "OSS Centres and
> Organisations: by country"
> http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showDocument&documentID=1631&parent=chapter&preChapterID=0-452-471
> but none about specific projects.  On the organization page, I think
> Skolelinux and NUUG should be listed (as other organizations in
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Michael Banck | 8 Jan 2004 18:19
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Strawpoll on proper usage of <at> debian.org email address

Hi everybody,

There seems to be some confusion about what one should do or not do with
his  <at> debian.org email address. Therefore, I'd like to get some input on
what people think should be right thing to do, the results could then be
used to improve/update the DMUP. I talked about this with our DPL and he
supported this poll (and proposed some corrections). 

Could everbody interested please fill out that small query below and
send the answers to me? I will then present an anonymous summary on
this list, in order to cut down on traffic.

("Using  <at> d.o" in this context means: writing mail with  <at> debian.org as
From-header and (possibly, but not necessarily) expecting people to
answer to that address and/or expecting people to mail them at that
address when they want to contact you for that kind of business. 'FLOSS'
stands for Free/Libre/OpenSource-Software)

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1. Using  <at> d.o for dealing with FLOSS with a tight debian-relationship
(e.g. being upstream or the (co-)maintainer of it)

      Alright       Not Alright
        [ ]             [ ]

2. Using  <at> d.o for dealing with FLOSS with a loose debian-relationship
(e.g. reporting a bug/patch in the upstream bug tracker of an unrelated
package, posting on mailing lists of projects without being the Debian
maintainer etc.)
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Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader | 8 Jan 2004 18:38
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Re: Debian and the Open Source Observatory

* Paul E Condon <pecondon <at> peakpeak.com> [2004-01-08 10:01]:
> The list of links is almost all from .com TLD. The developers of this web
> site should be introduced to the .org TLD, e.g. www.gnu.org. 

You mean the list at the end of
http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/index.jsp?fuseAction=showDocument&documentID=1667&parent=chapter&preChapterID=0-452-471
right?

I think they are mostly .com addresses because its a listing of
journals and news sites.  I don't think gnu.org is appropriate here,
although things like lwn.net would be good.  (There should of course
also be a listing of projects, such as gnu.org, as I mentioned in my
last mail).

> I haven't looked carefully enough to determine when this web site
> was started, but it appears to be relatively new. It should be

Yes, it's a new site (November, iirc); which is one reason I want to
get in contact, introduce myself and Debian, and offer our support.

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