Jonas Smedegaard | 1 May 05:40 2010
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Bug#579816: ITP: mswatch -- watch mailstores for changes and initiate mailbox syncs

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard <dr <at> jones.dk>
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard <dr <at> jones.dk>

* Package name    : mswatch
  Version         : 1.1.1
  Upstream Author : Chris Frost <chris <at> frostnet.net>
* URL             : http://mswatch.sourceforge.net/
* License         : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: C, C++
  Description     : watch mailstores for changes and initiate mailbox syncs

 mswatch is a command line unix program that keeps two mailboxes
 synchronized /more efficiently/ and with /shorter delays/ than
 periodically synchronizing the two the two mailboxes.
 ,
 mswatch watches mailboxes to know when to initiate mailbox syncs.
 Using mswatch, your mail synchronization program can be called on
 demand instead of through polling, resulting in prompter mail delivery
 and lower bandwidth usage and server load.
 .
 mswatch is designed to work in conjunction with mailbox synchronization
 programs, currently supports watching Linux (2.4+) hosted Maildirs
 (including Maildir folders, Maildir++), and is licensed under the GNU
 GPL.

Adam Borowski | 1 May 11:27 2010
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Bug#579796: ITP: othman -- electronic Quran browser in Python

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:18:34PM +0300, أحمد المحمودي wrote:
> * Package name    : othman
>   Description     : electronic Quran browser
> * URL             : http://othman.ojuba.org
> * License         : Waqf Public License
http://www.ojuba.org/wiki/waqf/license

While I do like the preamble of the license (putting aside religion and
anti-Americanism), the body does include significant usage restrictions:

# The user may use the work for any good purpose and he may not use it to
# harm others or violate the permissive principles of Islam.

"Harm others" is a vague term that can be applied to a wide range of
activities usually considered ok[1].  Most of these seem to be irrelevant to
a Quran browser[2], unless you consider criticizing Islam to be "harming".

"Violate the permissive principles of Islam" seems to forbid using this
browser to search for, or refer to, lines of Quran which are harmful from
whatever side of view.  This is a legitimate use of this package.  This
fails the DFSG, unless we interpret the phrase "permissive principles" as
limited to only those parts of Islam which grant some kind of permission
rather than forbid something.  Since religions (and laws in general) operate
by restricting things, being unable to actually grant something not
otherwise possible without that religion/law, such an interpretation doesn't
appear to make much sense, though.

Also, this comment mentions issues found by Fedora guys:

} 2009/11/14 21:21 هشام هواري,
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أحمد المحمودي | 1 May 11:48 2010

Bug#579796: ITP: othman -- electronic Quran browser in Python

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:27:27AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> "Harm others" is a vague term that can be applied to a wide range of
> activities usually considered ok[1].

I am indeed discussing this matter with upstream. That license terms 
need to be clear not vague.

> This fails the DFSG, unless we interpret the phrase "permissive
> principles" as limited to only those parts of Islam which grant some
> kind of permission rather than forbid something.  Since religions (and
> laws in general) operate by restricting things, being unable to
> actually grant something not otherwise possible without that
> religion/law, such an interpretation doesn't appear to make much
> sense, though.

I don't understand this paragraph.

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Mike Hommey | 1 May 13:04 2010

Re: Bug#579796: ITP: othman -- electronic Quran browser in Python

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 12:48:47PM +0300, أحمد المحمودي wrote:
> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 11:27:27AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > "Harm others" is a vague term that can be applied to a wide range of
> > activities usually considered ok[1].
> 
> I am indeed discussing this matter with upstream. That license terms 
> need to be clear not vague.

Clear or vague, if they stick to a license that restricts usage, then
it fails DFSG #6.
See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/03/msg00064.html, for
example, for a quite similar case.

Mike

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Jonas Smedegaard | 1 May 12:56 2010
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Bug#579833: ITP: rpatterson.mailsync -- Integration between mswatch, OfflineIMAP, and Gnus for realtime mail

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard <dr <at> jones.dk>
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard <dr <at> jones.dk>

* Package name    : rpatterson.mailsync
  Version         : 0.4
  Upstream Author : Ross Patterson <me <at> rpatterson.net>
* URL             : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/rpatterson.mailsync
* License         : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description     : Integration between mswatch, OfflineIMAP, and Gnus for realtime mail

 This package provides some scripts that wrap parts of mswatch and
 OfflineIMAP and integrate with Gnus to provide a local maildir that is
 synchronized with a remote maildir as changes occur, instead of polling
 on a regular basis. This provides for near instant delivery of new mail
 while also reducing resource utilization. Integration with the Emacs
 mail and newsreader, Gnus, is also provided in such a way that your
 single threaded Emacs process is blocked much less as changes occur to
 the maildirs.

أحمد المحمودي | 1 May 13:19 2010

Bug#579796: ITP: othman -- electronic Quran browser in Python

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 01:04:26PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Clear or vague, if they stick to a license that restricts usage, then
> it fails DFSG #6.
> See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/03/msg00064.html, for
> example, for a quite similar case.
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Yes, but it can be placed in non-free, right ?

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Alessio Treglia | 1 May 13:17 2010

Bug#579837: ITP: guayadeque -- Guayadeque Music Player

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alessio Treglia <quadrispro <at> ubuntu.com>

* Package name    : guayadeque
  Version         : 0.2.5
  Upstream Author : Juan Rios <anonbeat <at> gmail.com>
* URL             : http://sourceforge.net/projects/guayadeque/
* License         : GPL
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description     : Guayadeque Music Player
 A lightweight and easy-to-use music player that supports smart playlists
 and huge music collections.
 .
 Main features include:
  - Play mp3, ogg, flac, wma, mpc, mp4, ape, etc.
  - Read and write tags in all supported formats.
  - Allow to catalogue your music using labels. Any track, artist or album
    can have as many labels you want.
  - Smart play mode that add tracks that fit your music taste using the
    tracks currently in play list.
  - Ability to download covers manually or automatically
  - Suggest music using last.fm service.
  - Allow fast access to any music file by genre, artist, album, etc
  - Play shoutcast radios.
  - Allow to subscribe to podcasts and download all new episodes
    automatically or manually.
  - Dynamic or static play lists.
  - Tracks tag editor with automatically fetching of tags information for
    easily completion.
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Simon Richter | 1 May 15:02 2010
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Re: Bug#579796: ITP: othman -- electronic Quran browser in Python

Hi,

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 02:19:03PM +0300, أحمد المحمودي wrote:

> > Clear or vague, if they stick to a license that restricts usage, then
> > it fails DFSG #6.
> > See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2010/03/msg00064.html, for
> > example, for a quite similar case.

> Yes, but it can be placed in non-free, right ?

I think the main problem is that "good" is a subjective term, so people
who believe that they are doing "good" feel entitled to use the work,
and others who disagree with their views will claim that they are in
breach of the licence. Who gets to be the authority on what is "good"?

I'd also prefer if people would not use my software for causes I find
objectionable, but I don't think I can even do so much as draw a clear
line what constitutes "use". For example, I've written a tiny script
that will take your GPG key and produce a printable file with the
important data of the key arranged so that you can easily create bits of
paper to hand out at keysigning events. Now, people are using this to
establish secure communication channels, which can be used for any kind
of purpose, including conspiring to commit crime. Am I at fault for not
excluding this in the licence? Have I facilitated that crime because I
made it easier for the criminals to conspire?

I think at some point I just have to decline responsibility for others.

   Simon
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Jeffrey Ratcliffe | 1 May 23:01 2010
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Re: PGP v3 key support to be dropped from Debian keyring

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 01:57:24PM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> I have sent numerous mails over the past year to try and chase DDs with
> v3 keys to generate a new v4 key that is linked into to our web of
> trust. In that time we've gone from 200 v3 keys down to 20. While it

Have there been any checks of DMs or those in the NM process?

How can I find out which keys in my own keyring are v3?

Regards

Jeff
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Bug#579868: ITP: svn-all-fast-export -- A fast-import based converter to convert repos from svn to git

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: José Manuel Santamaría Lema <panfaust <at> gmail.com>
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel <at> lists.debian.org

Package name: svn-all-fast-export
Version: 0
Upstream Author: Thiago Macieira <thiago <at> kde.org>, Thomas Zander <tzander <at> trolltech.com>
URL: http://gitorious.org/svn2git
License: GPLv3 or later
Description: A fast-import based converter to convert repos from svn to git

svn-all-fast-export is a tool to convert your svn repositories to git.

You will need to have a copy of your svn repository and to write some rules to
specify how the conversion will be done, for instance, you can manage how the
tags and branches will be managed writing the appropriate rules. You have
examples in /usr/share/doc/svn-all-fast-export/samples

Also, you can provide a file mapping the old svn accounts to the authors names
in the format "Author Name <email>" so will not need to use git filter-branch
to amend the commiters' names.


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