Ben Finney | 1 Mar 01:59
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Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

Luk Claes <luk <at> debian.org> writes:

> There is currently discussion ongoing about how to move forward,
> though due to the complex nature of the current situation (where also
> lots of FUD etc is on the lists), it is being dealt in private.

Nearly three months later, the issue remains: Python in Debian does not
have a maintainer who communicates in a timely manner on the
‘debian-python’ forum. (This is evidenced by another ongoing discussion
about problems with the python2.6 transition, with no input from the
maintainer.)

What is the specific plan to resolve that issue of maintainership, and
what has the past three months of private action achieved for its
resolution?

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Wouter Verhelst | 1 Mar 02:00
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Re: klibc only initramfs

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26:48AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:05:03PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > This is not really a big deal in the case of d-i, since first, when
> > things fail, they fail for everyone who uses the same image, and second,
> > if the installer fails, you just can't install using the broken image,
> > but you can still use the system that's already installed (if any), or
> > fall back to a different install image. Both are not true for initramfs
> > generation.
> 
> You could obviously just fall back to using the full .so in the case of
> initramfs generation.

You could always do that, but it would rather defeat the purpose.

Also, changing back to a working initramfs may be rather hard, depending
on the bootloader in use.

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Micah Anderson | 1 Mar 05:55
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Bug#572029: ITP: pppd-sql -- pppd-sql provides a MySQL or PostgreSQL backend for CHAP/PAP pppd authentication

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Micah Anderson <micah <at> debian.org>

* Package name    : pppd-sql
  Version         : 0.8.0
  Upstream Author : Maik Broemme <mbroemme <at> plusserver.de>
* URL             : https://babelize.org/pppd-sql.php
* License         : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: C
  Description     : pppd-sql provides a MySQL or PostgreSQL backend for CHAP/PAP pppd authentication

 pppd-sql is a plugin for the Point-to-Point server (pppd) that adds an authentication 
 backend using a MySQL or PostgreSQL database for the Challenge Handshake Authentication 
 Protocol (CHAP) and Password Authentication Protocol (PAP). It supports MS-CHAPv1 and 
 MS-CHAPv2 too. The IPCP negotiation after authentication handshake is also supported. 
 pppd-sql supports a flexible configuration scheme, has concurrent connection handling 
 for single users across multiple tunnel servers, and comes with easy and handy 
 documentation

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Bug#572037: ITP: haskell-sdl-gfx -- Haskell SDL gfx binding for GHC

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd <at> mega-nerd.com>

* Package name    : haskell-sdl-gfx
  Version         : 0.5.3
  Upstream Author : David Himmelstrup
* URL             : http://hackage.haskell.org/package/SDL-gfx
* License         : BSD
  Programming Lang: Haskell
  Description     : Haskell SDL gfx binding for GHC

 This package provides the SDL gfx library bindings for the Haskell
 programming language. SDL gfx is an extension to the SDL library which
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 polygons, an interpolating rotozoomer for SDL surfaces, framerate control
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Ian Campbell | 1 Mar 12:57
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Re: Xen, Squeeze, and Beyond

On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 01:03 +0300, William Pitcock wrote:
> ----- "Josip Rodin" <joy <at> entuzijast.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 01:23:07AM +0300, William Pitcock wrote:
> > > I am looking into packaging xenner already as a backup plan if I
> > cannot
> > > manage to fix some major reentrancy problems in the Xen dom0 code
> > > (Xensource 2.6.18 patches, the pvops stuff has it's own share of
> > problems
> > > and needs more evaluation).
> > 
> > The .18 dom0 patches are well on their way out from the perspective
> > of
> > both Debian and Xen upstream, so you might want to shift focus to the
> > pvops
> > branch instead.
> 
> I am well aware of that.  However, the pvops branch has several critical
> bugs:
> 
> - On a 8-way system, it reports 259GHz CPUs for all cores when booted under
> Xen;
> - The paravirtualized clock is 4 times slower then it should be in dom0
> mode;
> - The same reentrancy issues exist, as 

It is very much worth taking these issues to the xen-devel mailing list.

> the pvops work is mostly Jeremy forward porting the 2.6.18 code

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Pasi Kärkkäinen | 1 Mar 12:34
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Re: Xen, Squeeze, and Beyond

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 07:01:59AM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:53:56PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > There was a thread here a little while back about the status of Xen in
> > future Debian releases.  It left me rather confused, and I'm hoping to
> > find some answers (which I will then happily document in the wiki).
> > 
> > According to http://wiki.debian.org/SystemVirtualization :
> > 
> > "Qemu and KVM - Mostly used on Desktops/Laptops"
> > 
> Yes - but also the only game in town for cross platform emulation.
> 
> KVM is shaping up well and appears to be very well supported by Red Hat.
> 
> > "VirtualBox - Mostly used on Desktops/Laptops"
> 
> Who knows what will happen to this now that Oracle own it? It's possible 
> it will be merged in one of their other products like Virtual Iron.
> 
> > 
> > "Xen - Provides para-virtualization and full-virtualization. Mostly used
> > on servers. Will be abandoned after squeeze."
> > 
> 
> I think that the problem here is that Xen isn't mainstream in the 
> kernel. It takes a long time for a Xen-ified kernel to come out and any 
> distribution supporting it has to carry a heavy patch burden. Xen 
> doesn't keep anywhere current in terms of kernel - if we release Squeeze 
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Bug#572127: ITP: liblocales-perl -- Object-oriented access to localized CLDR information

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Ernesto Hernández-Novich (USB)" <emhn <at> usb.ve>

* Package name    : liblocales-perl
  Version         : 0.15
  Upstream Author : Daniel Muey <dmuey <at> cpan.org>
* URL             : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Locales/
* License         : GPL | Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description     : Object-oriented access to localized CLDR information

Locales is a Perl library providing an object-oriented interface to
a particular locale, in order to obtain CLDR language and territory
information from it.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.4
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Stefano Rivera | 1 Mar 20:19
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Bug#572135: ITP: libstemmer -- Snowball stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stefano Rivera <stefano <at> rivera.za.net>

* Package name    : libstemmer
  Version         : 0+svn526
  Upstream Author : Dr Martin Porter <martin <at> tartarus.org> and Richard Boulton <richard <at> tartarus.org>
* URL             : http://snowball.tartarus.org/
* License         : BSD
  Programming Lang: C
  Description     : Snowball stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval

Snowball provides access to efficient algorithms for calculating a
"stemmed" form of a word.  This is a form with most of the common
morphological endings removed; hopefully representing a common
linguistic base form.  This is most useful in building search engines
and information retrieval software; for example, a search with stemming
enabled should be able to find a document containing "cycling" given the
query "cycles".

Snowball provides algorithms for several (mainly European) languages.
It also provides access to the classic Porter stemming algorithm for
English: although this has been superseded by an improved algorithm, the
original algorithm may be of interest to information retrieval
researchers wishing to reproduce results of earlier experiments.

Thijs Kinkhorst | 1 Mar 23:19
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Adoption sought for a few packages

Hi,

I'm looking for adopters or assistance with the following packages. As with 
anyone there's a limit on the time I can(will) spend on Debian and I feel that 
in making choices there, these packages are currently starving for attention.

* phpbb3. This needs some work to get the latest upstream into Debian. The 
vast flow of security issues seems to have dried up since the 3.x series 
fortunately. Still, I don't think we should be releasing phpbb3 lagging behind 
as it is now, since significant amounts of fixes have been released upstream. 
I don't have enough time for this package anymore, but co-maintainer Jeroen is 
still interested to remain on the team; contact him to coordinate.

* serendipity. I don't really use this package anymore. It's currently removed 
from testing, because it needs to have a security bug fixed before it can be 
part of the next release. It's currently orphaned any will not be part of 
squeeze unless someone adopts it.

* mailman. I'm still interested in maintainership of this package, but the 
current team is not very intense. The current package is of release quality, 
but more work can definately be done on it, if only to review the 80+ open bug 
reports on it. If you want to join the team, send a message to the Mailman for 
Debian mailinglist and we'll set you up with the necessary permissions.

For all cases goes that I can help to get you started, or provide sponsoring.

cheers,
Thijs

Gmane