Marco d'Itri | 1 Oct 02:34 2007
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Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

On Oct 01, Peter Samuelson <peter <at> p12n.org> wrote:

> If enough packages need to do this same thing, it would make sense for
> tzdata to ship a tzdata-source binary package to be build-depended on.
It looks like you may have missed the arm firmware thread of yesterday...

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Peter Samuelson | 1 Oct 06:46 2007

Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?


[Marco d'Itri]
> > If enough packages need to do this same thing, it would make sense for
> > tzdata to ship a tzdata-source binary package to be build-depended on.
> It looks like you may have missed the arm firmware thread of yesterday...

No, I caught that thread, but thanks for your concern.  It doesn't seem
to be particularly related to this thread, though.
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Joey Hess | 1 Oct 09:45 2007
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pristine tarball generator

(Reposted here with additions from my blog, for people who don't read that.)

Keeping pristine upstream tarballs around is a pain, especially when working
in a team. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to keep them in revision control?
Except, it would use far too much disk...

Here's a solution. It generates a binary delta between the pristine
upstream tarball and a tarball created using files checked out of the
repository. The delta should be quite small, and any checkout of the
repository that has the same file contents as that used to create the
delta can be used to regenerate the pristine tarball.

Example (which would presumably be more fun and faster if I used git,
but works well enough):

joey <at> kodama:~package/uqm-voice> svn switch svn+ssh://uqm.debian.net/srv/svn/uqm/tags/uqm-voice/upstream_version_0.3
D    debian
A    comm/blackur/black041.ogg
U    comm/shofixt/shofi040.ogg
U    comm/starbas/starb182.ogg
D    comm/slyland/slyla030.ogg
U    comm/chmmr/chmmr035.ogg
U    comm/supox/supox031.ogg
Updated to revision 223.
joey <at> kodama:~package/uqm-voice> pristine-tar extract ~/uqm-voice.delta ../uqm-voice_0.3.orig.tar.gz

A quick svn switch back to trunk and the package is ready for building.
The generated tarball is bit-identical to the 19 MB upstream tarball,
though you have to gunzip them both to check this, since the gzip
compression differs. 
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Piotr Roszatycki | 1 Oct 11:01 2007
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Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

2007/10/1, Peter Samuelson <peter <at> p12n.org>:
> What upstream does, and whether the upstream license requires source,
> are not valid arguments for whether we're meeting the DFSG.  There are
> many packages in Debian that have to be altered to comply with the
> DFSG.

I don't know any example of package which has included some additional
sources because the upstream didn't provide real-sources for its
sources.

What about sources for i.e. gifs and jpegs (wallpapers, icons, menus)?
The fact is they have a source as Photoshop or GIMP project and we
distribute precompiled files or just exported from original tool. Even
Debian logo has own source file: Photoshop project which uses Adobe
Photoshop's brush pattern and propertiary font. So it means that
Debian logo is not DFSG!

> > I.e. ICU C++ library also doesn't ship Olson database as its original
> > format and it is stored as precompiled C++ source files.
>
> You're right.  I'll file bugs on both packages when I get a moment.

The updating DateTime::TimeZone is not so easy. It is not guaranteed
that new Olson DB is compatible with library API. I.e. after updating
sarge's version of libdatetime-timezone-perl I had to fix some
function because there was serious changes in Olson DB - some of
timezone aliases was replaced by special timezones and had to be
handled in other way. Even simple changes require to fix test units
because these tests relay on actual version of Olson DB.

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Josselin Mouette | 1 Oct 11:11 2007
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Bug#444820: ITP: pygtksourceview -- Python bindings for the GtkSourceView widget

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Josselin Mouette <joss <at> debian.org>

* Package name    : pygtksourceview
  Version         : 2.0.0
  Upstream Author : Gian Mario Tagliaretti <gianmt <at> gnome.org>
* URL             : http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/pygtksourceview/
* License         : LGPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description     : Python bindings for the GtkSourceView widget

 GtkSourceView is a text widget that extends the standard GTK+ 2.x text
 widget GtkTextView. It improves GtkTextView by implementing syntax
 highlighting and other features typical of a source editor.
 .
 This package contains the python bindings for GtkSourceView, and allows
 to write python programs that use the GtkSourceView widget.

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Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.22-2-amd64 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

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Roberto C. Sánchez | 1 Oct 13:12 2007

Re: pristine tarball generator

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:45:39AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> I'm hoping that some people will find this useful and support for it
> will get into svn-buildpackage, git-buildpackage, etc. I think it could
> be significantly simpler and easier to use than the complex dance
> svn-buildpackage uses to try to find or download an upstream tarball,
> and it could make git-buildpackage's existing code to try and create an
> .orig.tar.gz much more accurate.
> 
I sure would find it quite helpful.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Holger Levsen | 1 Oct 14:10 2007

Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

Hi,

On Monday 01 October 2007 11:01, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> I don't know any example of package which has included some additional
> sources because the upstream didn't provide real-sources for its
> sources.

typo3-src is an example. Upstream doesn't provide the source for a font it 
ships. 

Search for *debian.orig.tar.gz

regards,
	Holger
Adeodato Simó | 1 Oct 14:55 2007
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Re: Bug#444820: ITP: pygtksourceview -- Python bindings for the GtkSourceView widget

* Josselin Mouette [Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:11:35 +0200]:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Josselin Mouette <joss <at> debian.org>

> * Package name    : pygtksourceview

Are they moving out of python-gnome2-desktop, then? Asking because I'll
have a Suggest to adjust, then.

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Josselin Mouette | 1 Oct 14:58 2007
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Re: Bug#444820: ITP: pygtksourceview -- Python bindings for the GtkSourceView widget

Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 14:55 +0200, Adeodato Simó a écrit :
> * Josselin Mouette [Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:11:35 +0200]:
> 
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Josselin Mouette <joss <at> debian.org>
> 
> > * Package name    : pygtksourceview
> 
> Are they moving out of python-gnome2-desktop, then? Asking because I'll
> have a Suggest to adjust, then.

The module name is gtksourceview2 and corresponds to version 2.0 of the
GtkSourceView API. They are both installable together.

Of course, you are encouraged to port applications to the gtksourceview2
API :)

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Piotr Roszatycki | 1 Oct 15:11 2007
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Re: volatile.debian.org: Does Debian still support it?

2007/10/1, Holger Levsen <holger <at> layer-acht.org>:
> > I don't know any example of package which has included some additional
> > sources because the upstream didn't provide real-sources for its
> > sources.
>
> typo3-src is an example. Upstream doesn't provide the source for a font it
> ships.
>
> Search for *debian.orig.tar.gz

I think it is because the nimbus font is released on GPL license, so
the source code is required. The Olson DB is public domain so its
license does not exact the shipping of source form.

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