Matthias Urlichs | 1 Apr 03:13 2003
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Re: Non-shared-use shared libraries, and the override file

Hi,

On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:02:12 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
>> I just got this message..:
>> >>Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of
>> >>the override file.  It is ok otherwise, so please be patient.  New
>> >>packages are usually added to the override file about once a week.
>>
>> That would be fine, except that the shared library included in the
>> package in question is a preload library and not intended to be linked
>> against. It's not even named lib*.so, just *.so.
>>
>> Should I remove the shlibs file (and ignore the Lintian error)?
>
> Possibly, but that has nothing to do with the ftp-master override file.
> I'm not quite sure why you're asking in this context?

I thought that the reason for this message is a new shared library.

If that's wrong, please enlighten me.  ;-)

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Michel Loos | 1 Apr 03:15 2003

Re: perl and libtk-img

Em Qui, 2003-03-27 às 19:38, David N. Welton escreveu:
> [ Please CC me in replies ]
> 
> Hi, I have emailed the guy who submitted this bug, with no answer.
> Any Perl people want to have a look at it and see if the problem
> behavior is still there?
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=142998
> 

The trouble with this bug is that Tk::JPEG is not in debian, you must
get it from CPAN.
I use it on instable after debianizing and have no troubles.

The message showed in this bug is same on Windows with ActivePerl
packages. Seems to be a problem with an old version of Tk::JPEG

Michel.

> Thankyou,
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Joel Baker | 1 Apr 03:18 2003
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Re: Introducing Alioth: SourceForge for Debian

On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 06:34:54PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 11:05:05AM -0600, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > I see it was mentioned that cvs.debian.org will likely be (or maybe
> > technically already has been) depreciated in favor of Alioth. I wonder if
> > this is the case with the debian BTS?
> 
> Not to my knowledge, and I think it would be a bad idea. I agree that
> the SourceForge-style one should probably be disabled.

Actually, I can see some uses for it:

1) Unless I'm mistaken, not everything on Alioth is required to be in a
Debian package? (Granted, probably 99% of it will be, but some of it may,
in fact, be too experimental to put even into experimental, yet, or may not
be suitable to packaging, but still be valuble to Debian).

2) You can't do things like "assign bug <X> to the task list for developer
<Y>" - so, unless/until the BTS does support this (which, as I believe
has been noted before, would require 'accounts', for one thing), there
*is* value to it for any multi-maintainer project that wants to try to
coordinate bug resolution like this.

For bonus points, option #2 might be even more useful with some way to
hook the BTS to Alioth for a specific package (similar to, oh, how the PTS
currently lets you subscribe) such that certain bug changes in the BTS
could be automagically reflected in the Alioth bug list.

I do agree that Alioth might should have a big 'this is not the primary
place to report most bugs' slapped across it somewhere. Or even disallow
public bugfiling on it, and limit it only to folks with accounts.
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Colin Watson | 1 Apr 03:51 2003
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Re: Non-shared-use shared libraries, and the override file

On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 02:13:39AM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
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> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:02:12 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Possibly, but that has nothing to do with the ftp-master override file.
> > I'm not quite sure why you're asking in this context?
> 
> I thought that the reason for this message is a new shared library.
> 
> If that's wrong, please enlighten me.  ;-)

No, the reason for the message is a new package, or a package uploaded
to a different one of {main,contrib,non-free} than before.

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Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson <at> flatline.org.uk]

Matt Zimmerman | 1 Apr 04:52 2003
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Re: /etc/nologin appearing on upgrade

On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 05:10:36PM +0100, Russell Coker wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:04, Russell Coker wrote:
> > I was in the middle of upgrading to today's unstable when my machine became
> > unstable.  The X server became confused and stopped accepting keyboard
> > input for unknown reasons.
> 
> This has just happened on a second machine.  Process 1 seems to have the 
> command-line "init boot" and the system startup scripts are running.  As some 
> of the daemons are already running one of the startup scripts hangs and then 
> init doesn't get to reap defunct processes or remove the /etc/nologin file it 
> created.
> 
> I still don't know which package caused this or why.

If DELAYLOGIN=yes in /etc/default/rcS, The boot scripts touch /etc/nologin
early in the boot process to disallow logins until the system has fully come
up (see /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh).  So, if init were prodded into trying to
execute the boot sequence on a running system, this could happen.

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 - mdz

Matt Zimmerman | 1 Apr 05:09 2003
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Re: should I orphan linux-wlan-ng?

On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:18:56PM +1100, Brian May wrote:

> This is an exception to the rule when more then one source package
> depends on a common source (as is the case for kernel-source).
> 
> Ideally, kernel-source should be a source only package, and
> kernel-image would build-depend of the source, not the deb
> file.
>
> This would save a little bit of archive disk space in the process.
> 
> However, considering it is only one package effected(?), I am not sure it
> is worth the effort.

Ideally we might someday have a facility for this, allowing different Debian
package maintainers (and even end users) to build packages for variants
based on the same source.  

There are more instances where this would be useful than one might think at
first.  Off the top of my head:

The xfree86 tinyx server is usually built from the same sources as xfree86,
but since in Debian, tinyx is handled by a different maintainer than
xfree86, it is necessary to duplicate part of the source package, create a
non-pristine source tarball, etc.

toolchain-source, used for building cross-compilers

Minimal builds of common programs for embedded devices (handheld PCs)

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Matt Zimmerman | 1 Apr 05:12 2003
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Re: should I orphan linux-wlan-ng?

 On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:04:02PM +0100, Attila SZALAY wrote:

> And then I compile the extra modules with make-kpkg too. It's set the
> include path correctly, and so on.  No other tools do this.
> 
> But if I want to use it, the modules must be in /usr/src/modules
> directory.
> 
> And what the sources packages do? Uncompress the files into this
> directory.
> 
> So, when we talk about _kernel_ _modules_ I deeply need source packages.
> But not in other situations.

I do not think this is justification for having the kind of module source
packages that we currently have.

There are few differences between:

cd /usr/src
tar xvzf module-source.tar.gz

and:

cd /usr/src/modules
apt-get source module

The key ones being dependencies and automatic upgrades.  apt-src, from what
I have seen, aims to provide these features at the source package level.

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Matt Zimmerman | 1 Apr 05:26 2003
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Re: should I orphan linux-wlan-ng?

On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:50:44AM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Please read bug #184899
> 
> For a while I've thought that we need to add more reading comprehension
> checks into the NM process. Looking at it now, we may also need a check
> for being able to communicate with someone who doesn't agree with them.

s/communicate with.*\./communicate./

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 - mdz

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Matthias Urlichs | 1 Apr 08:05 2003
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Re: Non-shared-use shared libraries, and the override file

Hi,

On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:51:52 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> No, the reason for the message is a new package, or a package uploaded
> to a different one of {main,contrib,non-free} than before.

*Sigh*. Thank you. It has obviously been too long since I read TFM.  :-/

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