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Ben Collins | 1 Apr 2002 01:24
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Re: XFree 4.2.0 !

On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 12:42:22AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:58, David Starner wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:38:49PM +0100, cHuKy SeCoND CReW wrote:
> > > Hi Developers,
> > >    Make a little effort and put in the Unstable the XFree 4.2.0, because
> > > this version has de most new drivers for de most new graphic cards, for
> > > example: Matrox g550
> > > Please do it :)
> >
> > Patience is a virtue. Especially when it comes to X, as Branden has been
> > known to bite people's head off for annoying him about when the next
> > version of X is coming out. Please look at
> > http://people.debian.org/~branden (and not in Lynx) for more
> > information.
> 
> Yes, people don't always need to use insulting phrases such as "make a little 
> effort" to get flamed either.
> 
> I would be interested to know what efforts "cHuKy SeCoND CReW" is making 
> towards free software development.  I wonder if cHuKy is making a little 
> effort...

cHuKy is de man.

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Joe Drew | 1 Apr 2002 02:32

Re: MMIX License

On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 17:53, Joe Drew wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 11:25, Pablo S. Torralba wrote:
> > I have been reading the license, that I send attached, and I cannot
> > figure exactly why this decision was made.
> 
> This license doesn't explicitly allow distribution of binaries produced
> from modified source files; it seems to me that therefore it fails
> section 4 of the DFSG.

Hmm, and of course this was supposed to go to debian-legal.

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Karsten M. Self | 1 Apr 2002 02:42
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Policy proposal: 'local-foo' for system-specific init.d files

I made this suggestion earlier on d-u.  Sean Perry thought it worth
posting here:

This question (where do I put local init.d scripts) comes up enough that
a policy ought IMVAO be set for it.

Viz:  

    any rc script named local-foo is considered local and sacrosanct by
    the system, where "-foo" could have any arbitrary value, including
    null (for the single instance of a local script).

    But this way I could, say, run four local webservers as
    local-apache-mydom0, local-apache-mydom1, local-apache-mydom2, and
    local-apache-mydom3, without worrying about how they're treated by
    Debian.

    So:

       /etc/init.d/local:	Arbitrary local commands
       /etc/init.d/local-squid:	A locally maintained (and possibly
                                separate instance of a) squid proxy

Thoughts?

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Henrique de Moraes Holschuh | 1 Apr 2002 03:07
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Re: Policy proposal: 'local-foo' for system-specific init.d files

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> This question (where do I put local init.d scripts) comes up enough that
> a policy ought IMVAO be set for it.

Hmm... well, ALL we need in policy is to define that no Debian packages
should ever use an initscript ID prefixed by local.

Is there reason for more? policy is not a user's guide, after all.

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Simon Richter | 1 Apr 2002 03:39
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ITP: rootkit - a Ro0Tk1t 4 Deb1an boxxxen


Package: rootkit
Version: 0.1-1
Section: admin
Priority: optional
Description: a Ro0Tk1t 4 Deb1an boxxxen
 D15 p4(kaG3 d1V3rt5 d4 u5U4L b1N4r135 U w4Nt 2 r3Pl4(3 1N a 5Y5t3m
 (0nf0Rm4nT M4Nn3r, 50 tH4T 3V3n r31N5t4lL1nG '3m w0n'T h3Lp !! dpkg
 w1Ll n0T (!) 0v3RwR1t3 d4 f1L3Z 1N D15 P4(K4G3 !! H4h4!
 .
 jU5T d0 apt-get install rootkit, 4n5W3r d4 q35t10nz && h4V3 fUn!!!

Please don't anybody tell the script kiddies that it will uninstall
cleanly.

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Tomohiro KUBOTA | 1 Apr 2002 04:14
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glibc-libX11-wrappers released!

Hi,

A new set of libraries, glibc-libX11-wrappers is released today.
This enables:

 - all 7bit/8bit softwares are forced internationalized to use
   32bit Unicode and/or ISO2022 automatically.

 - all softwares which use X fonts will able to use non-iso8859-1
   and 16bit fonts automatically.

 - all layout engines will be replaced by doublewidth/combining/bidi-
   aware internationalized one automatically.

 - getchar() and so on will be replaced by an internationalized
   version which can input complex languages such as CJK and Indic
   automatically.  Conversion engines, natural-language-semantics-
   processing engine, and megabytes of dictionaries which are needed
   for CJK input are prepared as plug-ins.

 - all string-handling functions and routines such as strchr() will
   be replaced by 32bit-Unicode-and/or-ISO2022-aware internationalized
   versions automatically.

 - optionally, all text outputs will be gettext-ized.  Note that
   stream-based communication with other process which should be
   done in "C" locale should not use gettext, which must be specified
   manually.

Thus, all existing softwares will be internationalized only by
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Marc Wilson | 1 Apr 2002 04:39
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Re: XFree 4.2.0 !

On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:38:49PM +0100, cHuKy SeCoND CReW wrote:
> Hi Developers,
>    Make a little effort and put in the Unstable the XFree 4.2.0, because
> this version has de most new drivers for de most new graphic cards, for
> example: Matrox g550
> Please do it :)

Boy, want your head handed to you, don't you?

You can easily add support for the G550 to Branden's X packages, you know.
Since you think it's only "a little effort" to move to a whole new revision
of X, making the simple documented changes to the mga driver and
recompiling it should be child's play for you.  I did it back around -10 or
so.

Well?

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Paul Russell | 1 Apr 2002 05:17
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Re: ccache for the autobuilders?


On Sunday 31 March 2002 18:16, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > 	Just packaged Andrew Tridgell's ccache (like compiler cache only
> > written in C and much quicker).  You might want to consider using it for
> > the autobuilders (although the disk requirements might be overwhelming).
>
> That's pointless; the autobuilders almost never build the same file
> twice.  By the time a package comes up for rebuild at least a day has
> passed (more generally weeks).

Hi Daniel!

	Autobuilders constantly build the same file twice, but as you point
out, it is rarely done close together.  For the slower architectures, throwing
a 20GB drive at the problem might be worth considering.
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Karsten M. Self | 1 Apr 2002 06:18
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Re: Policy proposal: 'local-foo' for system-specific init.d files

on Sun, Mar 31, 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (hmh <at> debian.org) wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > This question (where do I put local init.d scripts) comes up enough that
> > a policy ought IMVAO be set for it.
> 
> Hmm... well, ALL we need in policy is to define that no Debian packages
> should ever use an initscript ID prefixed by local.

That's the short version of the proposal.  Yes.

> Is there reason for more? policy is not a user's guide, after all.

Well, documenting this behavior elsewhere, say, the init manpage, would
be useful.

Peace.

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Junichi Uekawa | 1 Apr 2002 07:09
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libsmpeg0 shlibs is broken, fix it or we shalt lose whatever.


I've filed a bug #140572.

libsmpeg0 is broken, it will break upgrades from Debian 2.2 to 3.0.

Either it gets removed (along with whatever list of games we have),
or fix it.

Anyone interested in fixing it?

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