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Arjen Lentz | 1 Feb 2006 02:28
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MySQL UG meeting - Sydney, Thu 9 Feb 7pm

Hi again,

So, with thanks to Del (BabelCom) we now have a venue, however the date 
is now Thursday 9 Feb, 7pm.

Please sign up with http://mysql.meetup.com/142/ and RSVP.
Details about the venue are also there.

Hope to see you there!

(note that this is just the first meeting, the above date says nada 
about what day/etc future meetings might be. it's up to all of you to 
see what works best for you.)

Regards,
Arjen.
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Del | 1 Feb 2006 02:43
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Re: [Osia-discuss] MySQL UG meeting - Sydney, Thu 9 Feb 7pm

Arjen Lentz wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> So, with thanks to Del (BabelCom) we now have a venue, however the date 
> is now Thursday 9 Feb, 7pm.
> 
> Please sign up with http://mysql.meetup.com/142/ and RSVP.
> Details about the venue are also there.

Despite the mapquest link, the venue (Paddington) is not in Western
Australia.  It's Paddington in Sydney:

Level 1, 3 Oxford St
Paddington 2021

Near the corner of Oxford St and South Dowling St.  The best parking
is in South Dowling St around 7pm -- before that it's a clearway.

There are 4 buzzers at the front door on the street level, press the
top one with the fish on it and that's us.

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Alex Ferrara | 2 Feb 2006 14:37
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Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

Not sure if you guys know about this, but the ATO have submitted 
instructions on getting their java based CSI working under linux, and it 
is really easy. As a business owner, I can now do anything I need using 
the business portal native under linux. You can look at 
http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/ for a good document on that.

I am pretty sure that the ECI is written in java, but was written for 
MS-JAVA, and therefore not compatible with sun java. Since MS-JAVA is no 
longer distributable, there must be something in the pipeline to write 
this using some standard.

As far as the e-tax software, it works fine under wine. The trick is to 
install IE under wine so it can actually submit a completed return.

aF

Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 11:03:43PM +1030, David Lloyd wrote:
> 
> 
>>>When asked...
>>>"Do you believe that the Australian Taxation Office's Windows-Only
>>>policy is a roadblock to the adoption of open source in Australia?" 
>>>72% of respondents to OSIA's industry survey said Yes.
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>>Yeah, and any competent statistician would be able throw that statistic
>>out the window. That's beside the point.
> 
> 
> ???
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Pia Waugh | 3 Feb 2006 03:28
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

Hi Alex,

<quote who="Alex Ferrara">

> Not sure if you guys know about this, but the ATO have submitted 
> instructions on getting their java based CSI working under linux, and it 
> is really easy. As a business owner, I can now do anything I need using 
> the business portal native under linux. You can look at 
> http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/ for a good document on that.

Awesome! Maybe LA should do a press release congratulating the ATO. Positive
reinforcement is always a good thing :) Particularly in dealing with
Government.

Cheers,
Pia

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Peter Lieverdink | 3 Feb 2006 01:11
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

Alex Ferrara wrote:
> Not sure if you guys know about this, but the ATO have submitted 
> instructions on getting their java based CSI working under linux, and it 
> is really easy. As a business owner, I can now do anything I need using 
> the business portal native under linux. You can look at 
> http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/ for a good document on that.
> 
> I am pretty sure that the ECI is written in java, but was written for 
> MS-JAVA, and therefore not compatible with sun java. Since MS-JAVA is no 
> longer distributable, there must be something in the pipeline to write 
> this using some standard.
> 
> As far as the e-tax software, it works fine under wine. The trick is to 
> install IE under wine so it can actually submit a completed return.

wine won't run (at all) on powerpc.  ;-)

(And I'm not about to (ever) install IE in any form under Linux, but 
that's a different issue)

- P.
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Stephen Davies | 3 Feb 2006 05:58
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

I'm afraid I don't know what e-tax is. I handle all of my company's ATO 
liabilities via the portal.

Cheers,
Stephen

On Friday 03 February 2006 15:24, Peter Lieverdink wrote:
> Hey Stephen,
>
> Yes, the portal does, but e-tax as well?
>
> - P.
>
> Stephen Davies wrote:
> > You don't need wine (let alone IE) to run the Java portal access
> > side of things. It works just fine with standard Linux Java ,
> > Firefox etc etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Stephen Davies
> >
> > [snip]

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Peter Lieverdink | 3 Feb 2006 05:54
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

Hey Stephen,

Yes, the portal does, but e-tax as well?

- P.

Stephen Davies wrote:
> You don't need wine (let alone IE) to run the Java portal access side of 
> things. It works just fine with standard Linux Java , Firefox etc etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephen Davies
 >
> [snip]
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Jeff Waugh | 3 Feb 2006 06:26
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wine on powerpc

<quote who="Peter Lieverdink">

> > As far as the e-tax software, it works fine under wine. The trick is to
> > install IE under wine so it can actually submit a completed return.
> 
> wine won't run (at all) on powerpc.  ;-)

You can run wine on powerpc with qemu, should you ever have the need. :-)

- Jeff

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Stephen Davies | 3 Feb 2006 05:38
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

You don't need wine (let alone IE) to run the Java portal access side of 
things. It works just fine with standard Linux Java , Firefox etc etc.

Cheers,
Stephen Davies

On Friday 03 February 2006 10:41, Peter Lieverdink wrote:
> Alex Ferrara wrote:
> > Not sure if you guys know about this, but the ATO have submitted
> > instructions on getting their java based CSI working under linux,
> > and it is really easy. As a business owner, I can now do anything I
> > need using the business portal native under linux. You can look at
> > http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/ for a good document on that.
> >
> > I am pretty sure that the ECI is written in java, but was written
> > for MS-JAVA, and therefore not compatible with sun java. Since
> > MS-JAVA is no longer distributable, there must be something in the
> > pipeline to write this using some standard.
> >
> > As far as the e-tax software, it works fine under wine. The trick
> > is to install IE under wine so it can actually submit a completed
> > return.
>
> wine won't run (at all) on powerpc.  ;-)
>
> (And I'm not about to (ever) install IE in any form under Linux, but
> that's a different issue)
>
> - P.
>
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Del | 3 Feb 2006 08:08
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Re: Re: [Osia-discuss] Re: ATO - Software Compatibility

Alex Ferrara wrote:
> Not sure if you guys know about this, but the ATO have submitted 
> instructions on getting their java based CSI working under linux, and it 
> is really easy. As a business owner, I can now do anything I need using 
> the business portal native under linux. You can look at 
> http://itmaze.com.au/articles/ato/ for a good document on that.
> 
> I am pretty sure that the ECI is written in java, but was written for 
> MS-JAVA, and therefore not compatible with sun java. Since MS-JAVA is no 
> longer distributable, there must be something in the pipeline to write 
> this using some standard.
> 
> As far as the e-tax software, it works fine under wine. The trick is to 
> install IE under wine so it can actually submit a completed return.

They did release it as a whole kit and installer under Linux at one
point, distributed it to a select group of users, and then withdrew
it.

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