Ng Oon-Ee | 1 Oct 01:27 2010
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[LAU] Pulseaudio Rants [WAS: Migrating to Linux - need help]

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 23:38 +0100, mark hadman wrote:
> Pulseaudio is still in alpha and just doesn't work with m-audio
> soundcards (or anything using the ICE1712 chipset). Quite why the big
> distros have adopted it and still insist that it works is beyond me.
> 
> You could try bugging ubuntu or pulseaudio devs about it but many of
> us have been banging our heads against that particular brick wall for
> about 2.5 years now; they just keep blaming each other and/or alsa
> (which is obviously not to blame cos alsa without pulse just works).
> I've abandoned the otherwise brilliant Ubuntu and moved to Arch Linux
> because of this ongoing farce. As a beginner with accessibility issues
> I'd hesitate to recommend you doing the same.
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
> contains various workarounds and a heck of a lot of VERY justified
> griping.
> 
> PS if anyone from Canonical or Pulseaudio follows this mailing list,
> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sort it out NOW. Once and for all. The
> fixes are out there, it's can't be hard from a dev's point of view.
> This issue is making you all look like stubborn uncaring idiots. The
> ICE1712 hardware isn't going to change, and we're not about to stop
> using it.

Is there any need to rant on pulseaudio when the OP wants to use Jack
for audio production? Its the stated goal of pulseaudio to support
'normal desktop use', which obviously doesn't include ICE1712 chipsets.
If you have such a card you should be using Jack anyway (would you buy
one of those just to listen to youtube videos?).

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Niels Mayer | 1 Oct 02:02 2010
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Re: [LAU] [MeeGo-community] [PlanetCCRMA] meegolem -- adding rpmfusion, fedora and planetccrma repositories to meego

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Patrick Shirkey
<pshirkey@...> wrote:
> Thanks for forwarding that info. It is very interesting news.

Indeed.

Also interesting, and recently put online, the recent San Francisco
Meego developer conference presentations:
http://www.webcastgroup.com/webcast/window_new/frameset.asp?wid=0770914105400
(6hrs, for some reason they recorded all the breaks too).

-- Niels
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Niels Mayer | 1 Oct 02:11 2010
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Re: [LAU] [MeeGo-community] [PlanetCCRMA] meegolem -- adding rpmfusion, fedora and planetccrma repositories to meego

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Niels Mayer <nielsmayer@...> wrote:
> http://www.webcastgroup.com/webcast/window_new/frameset.asp?wid=0770914105400

Apparently I gave an overabbreviated URL  this one should work:
http://www.webcastgroup.com/webcast/window_new/frameset.asp?wid=0770914105400&WebcastID=5400&a=&sl=n
or http://meegozone.com/developer-day-2010/

(please resist temptation to do the same as this license plate with
the first  URL :-)
http://d.yimg.com/gg/u/390fcfa24d18c6e03cfc85f022d63ef9a60a5d3c.jpeg )

-- Niels.
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Charles Henry | 1 Oct 02:45 2010
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Re: [LAU] Pulseaudio Rants [WAS: Migrating to Linux - need help]



On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee <at> gmail.com> wrote:

Is there any need to rant on pulseaudio when the OP wants to use Jack
for audio production?

No.  No need at all.  I recommend to do it, just because it's fun.

Personally, I just expect more out of hardware developers.  But, complaining about lack of linux supported hardware is just for fun too  ;) some part of that was just sarcastic

 
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Joe Hartley | 1 Oct 08:28 2010
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Re: [LAU] [MeeGo-community] [PlanetCCRMA] meegolem -- adding rpmfusion, fedora and planetccrma repositories to meego

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:11:29 -0700
Niels Mayer <nielsmayer@...> wrote:
> (please resist temptation to do the same as this license plate with
> the first  URL :-)
> http://d.yimg.com/gg/u/390fcfa24d18c6e03cfc85f022d63ef9a60a5d3c.jpeg )

Awww, little Bobby Tables is old enough to drive now!

http://xkcd.com/327/

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Jeremy Jongepier | 1 Oct 11:44 2010

Re: [LAU] Demo: Soda P - Pent-Up

On 09/29/2010 01:12 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Jeremy,
>     Sorry for the late reply. I enjoyed this quite a bit and should
> have written back sooner.
>
>     For my tastes I thought most everything was quite good in the mix.
> If you wanted to look at anything I'd probably choose to focus on the
> bass but I have no specific idea what to do with it. To me it seemed
> to be a bit the tonality in the mix could be better and_maybe_  the
> playing could be different. I'm not picking on the player or the mix -
> only saying that I think maybe the bass could be played a bit less
> like the other instruments and then stand out a bit more.
>
>     Anyway, overall it's quite a good piece of work. I hope you guys
> will post more over time.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark

Hello Mark,

Thanks for the feedback and I agree with the bass line, I hear something
different in my head when I listen to this song. For the final
recordings I hope I can get him to play some parts a bit differently.
And we'll post more, we're recording the next song and that one already
has a way more elaborate bass line ;)

Best,

Jeremy
rosea grammostola | 1 Oct 12:23 2010
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[LAU] thinkpad t61 noise

Hey,

My thinkpad t61 makes a high frequency sound, pipipipipippi, not very
loud. Funny thing, when I stick in the usb mouse, it's gone... I only
have this issue when on battery. Suggestions for solution?

Is it right that there is one fan in the T61, on the left of the
keyboard? Then a other noise source might be the hdd on the right.
It's not that my T61 is very noisy, it isn't very silent either. Maybe
I could change the hdd.

Best regards,

\r
Dominic Sacré | 1 Oct 13:24 2010
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Re: [LAU] thinkpad t61 noise

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM, rosea grammostola
<rosea.grammostola@...> wrote:
> My thinkpad t61 makes a high frequency sound, pipipipipippi, not very
> loud. Funny thing, when I stick in the usb mouse, it's gone... I only
> have this issue when on battery. Suggestions for solution?

Many Thinkpads (and other laptops as well) emit high-pitched noise
when the CPU periodically goes into power save mode. As far as I know
there is no real solution. You can change some kernel or BIOS settings
to (partially) disable power saving, but that might reduce your
battery life quite significantly.

I once had a similar problem which could also be "solved" by plugging
in USB devices. Turns out there was a bug in the USB kernel driver
which caused continuous CPU wake-ups, and thus prevented the CPU from
going into deep sleep modes. This stopped the noise, but also
increased power consumtion by a couple of watts...

Incidentally, another way to keep the CPU awake is to simply run JACK :)

This page has a lot more information and many potential workarounds:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_high_pitch_noises

Dominic
Dave Phillips | 1 Oct 13:30 2010
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Re: [LAU] thinkpad t61 noise

rosea grammostola wrote:
>
> My thinkpad t61 makes a high frequency sound, pipipipipippi, not very
> loud. Funny thing, when I stick in the usb mouse, it's gone... I only
> have this issue when on battery. Suggestions for solution?
>
>   

Could be an IRQ conflict. What does 'cat /proc/interrupts' report ?

What does lsusb report ?

Best,

dp
rosea grammostola | 1 Oct 13:56 2010
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Re: [LAU] thinkpad t61 noise

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Dave Phillips <dlphillips@...> wrote:
> rosea grammostola wrote:
>>
>> My thinkpad t61 makes a high frequency sound, pipipipipippi, not very
>> loud. Funny thing, when I stick in the usb mouse, it's gone... I only
>> have this issue when on battery. Suggestions for solution?
>>
>>
>
>
> Could be an IRQ conflict. What does 'cat /proc/interrupts' report ?
>
> What does lsusb report ?
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
>
>
>

When disabling usb 1, the noise is almost totally gone... That looks better.

# cat /proc/interrupts
           CPU0       CPU1
  0:     130819     131607   IO-APIC-edge      timer
  1:        998       1032   IO-APIC-edge      i8042
  8:          0          1   IO-APIC-edge      rtc0
  9:       1198       1232   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
 12:      53032      52926   IO-APIC-edge      i8042
 14:       5238       4891   IO-APIC-edge      ata_piix
 15:         64         60   IO-APIC-edge      ata_piix
 17:        100        112   IO-APIC-fasteoi   firewire_ohci, HDA Intel
 19:          0          2   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb2
 20:         79         84   IO-APIC-fasteoi
 22:       2915       2545   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1
 29:        590        599   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0
 30:       8114       7995   PCI-MSI-edge      i915
 31:      20779      20776   PCI-MSI-edge      iwlagn
NMI:          0          0   Non-maskable interrupts
LOC:     106919      55400   Local timer interrupts
SPU:          0          0   Spurious interrupts
PMI:          0          0   Performance monitoring interrupts
PND:          0          0   Performance pending work
RES:       2262       1781   Rescheduling interrupts
CAL:         14         58   Function call interrupts
TLB:        719        860   TLB shootdowns
TRM:          0          0   Thermal event interrupts
THR:          0          0   Threshold APIC interrupts
MCE:          0          0   Machine check exceptions
MCP:          9          9   Machine check polls
ERR:          1
MIS:          0

# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Gmane