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MarC | 1 Oct 2004 13:37
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little things about bug reporting

checking out the 1.2.0:
My ethernet was not detected during the installation (not even 
afterwards) when everything worked perfectly at the beta version. So 
I've already reported this bug...

However I've found those problems:

reading the bug/report proceeding:

<<Please choose "Andrea Glorioso" in the *Assigned To* drop-down menu - 
he's the one who will assign the bug/request to the correct person 
inside the AGNULA team. (The assignment feature is only available for 
registered users).>>

in GForce>demudi>bugs>bugs>submit-new I don't find any "assigned-to"...
I must assign it afterwards clicking again over the submitted bug and I 
find it a little bit annoying...
(same for priority but maybe I agree that priority must be assigned by 
the developper and must not be displayed...)

<<On the submission form you can leave the *Category*, *Group* and 
*Priority* fields as they are.>>
I think I SHOULD indicate the group/category if possible... isn't it 
easier like that? but I've seen that 1.2.0 release has not been added!

that's it
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Free Ekanayaka | 1 Oct 2004 17:33

Re: little things about bug reporting

|--==> "M" == MarC  <marc_contrib <at> ramonvinyes.es> writes:

  M> checking out the 1.2.0:
  M> My ethernet was not detected during the installation (not even 
  M> afterwards) when everything worked perfectly at the beta version. So 
  M> I've already reported this bug...

Please would send here the of:

lspci -v

and the name of the kernel module that should be used (if you know that)?

  M> However I've found those problems:

  M> reading the bug/report proceeding:

  M> <<Please choose "Andrea Glorioso" in the *Assigned To* drop-down menu - 
  M> he's the one who will assign the bug/request to the correct person 
  M> inside the AGNULA team. (The assignment feature is only available for 
  M> registered users).>>

Yes, note the "The assignment feature is only available for registered
users" sentence..

  M> in GForce>demudi>bugs>bugs>submit-new I don't find any "assigned-to"...
  M> I must assign it afterwards clicking again over the submitted bug and I 
  M> find it a little bit annoying...
  M> (same for priority but maybe I agree that priority must be assigned by 
  M> the developper and must not be displayed...)
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Damien Cirotteau | 1 Oct 2004 18:14

Re: little things about bug reporting

On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 05:33:46PM +0200, Free Ekanayaka wrote :
> |--==> "M" == MarC  <marc_contrib <at> ramonvinyes.es> writes:
> 
>   M> checking out the 1.2.0:
>   M> My ethernet was not detected during the installation (not even 
>   M> afterwards) when everything worked perfectly at the beta version. So 
>   M> I've already reported this bug...
> 
> Please would send here the of:
> 
> lspci -v
> 
> and the name of the kernel module that should be used (if you know that)?
> 
>   M> However I've found those problems:
> 
>   M> reading the bug/report proceeding:
> 
>   M> <<Please choose "Andrea Glorioso" in the *Assigned To* drop-down menu - 
>   M> he's the one who will assign the bug/request to the correct person 
>   M> inside the AGNULA team. (The assignment feature is only available for 
>   M> registered users).>>
> 
> Yes, note the "The assignment feature is only available for registered
> users" sentence..

I also  think that the assignement  should be done directly  to Free for
A/DeMuDi related bugs. 

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Andrea Glorioso | 1 Oct 2004 18:19

Re: Clone muzik web site

>>>>> "Free" == Free Ekanayaka <free <at> agnula.org> writes:

    > |--==> "AG" == Andrea Glorioso <sama <at> miu-ft.org> writes:
    >>>>>>> "Free" == Free Ekanayaka <free <at> agnula.org> writes:
    >>> On the other hand a "community site" is a network of people
    >>> gathered around the project, that may want to share experience
    >>> about it, or simply know each others.  As opposed to the web
    >>> site, it is typically informal, chaotic, fast evolving,
    >>> possibly difficult to orient in, but also extremely "alive"
    >>> and powerful once you "get in".  I've few experiences in this
    >>> regard, and I'm not sure of which is the best way/tool to
    >>> support such a process.

    AG> We already have the tools in place to distinguish between a
    AG> "website" and a "community site": they are Plone (on
    AG> www.agnula.org) and Mediawiki (on wiki.agnula.org).

    > Well, I was talking with the hypothesis of getting rid of plone:
    > if the only real advantage of plone is that it can be partly
    > used as a community tool, why not we simply rely on an actual
    > community tool as, Orkut or the like?

I really cannot understand what do you mean by community tool.  I
think all this discussion - which I welcome, as all discussions on
this list so far and in the foreseeable future - would be much more
productive if we just sit down and write a list of:

(1) goals to be achieved

(2) characteristics we want to see for the users (web surfers)
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Andrea Glorioso | 1 Oct 2004 18:20

Re: little things about bug reporting

>>>>> "MarC" == MarC  <marc_contrib <at> ramonvinyes.es> writes:

    > in GForce>demudi>bugs>bugs>submit-new I don't find any
    > "assigned-to"...  I must assign it afterwards clicking again
    > over the submitted bug and I find it a little bit annoying...
    > (same for priority but maybe I agree that priority must be
    > assigned by the developper and must not be displayed...)

Did you login on GForge before submitting the bug?

    > <<On the submission form you can leave the *Category*, *Group*
    > and *Priority* fields as they are.>> I think I SHOULD indicate
    > the group/category if possible... isn't it easier like that? but
    > I've seen that 1.2.0 release has not been added!

Free?

Bye,

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Mr. Spock | 1 Oct 2004 23:26
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Re: Modem can't reach ftp archives

On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 12:36:01AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> tim hall wrote:
> >Last Monday 20 September 2004 00:56, Mr. Spock was like:
> >
> >>Can someone tell me: does AGNULA 1.2beta2 support dial-up modems
>
> >dial-up should be configurable using pppconfig.
> >
Yes, but for some reason I couldn't get it to run.
Solved now though (see below :-)

> >> and SCSI CDROMs?
> >
OK, I got this working using the cd-drivers.img floppy disk.

> At the risk of repeating something I think I've said here before:
> 
> One of the very best ways to handle the matter of interfacing with the 
> Internet is to utilize an old machine (even a 90 MHz Pentium is 
> adequate) as a combination [firewall + router + DHCP server + [dial-up 
> or PPPoE manager]].
> 
OK, we are back, Captain.
Mr. Scott was not pleased when I requested that Main Engineering be
taken apart and put back together again, but I am happy to report
that we are now behind a firewall running a DHCP server, using
http://www.freesco.org/

I looked at http://www.smoothwall.org/ (as friends had been talking
about it for months) and read all of the fine documentation, but
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MarC | 1 Oct 2004 23:34
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Re: Re: little things about bug reporting


>and the name of the kernel module that should be used (if you know that)?
>
>  M> However I've found those problems:
>
>  M> reading the bug/report proceeding:
>
>  M> <<Please choose "Andrea Glorioso" in the *Assigned To* drop-down menu - 
>  M> he's the one who will assign the bug/request to the correct person 
>  M> inside the AGNULA team. (The assignment feature is only available for 
>  M> registered users).>>
>
>Yes, note the "The assignment feature is only available for registered
>users" sentence..
>  
>
In other words, I thought that after logging in Gforce as a user, I 
would be a "registered user"...
But this seems not to be true...

>   > in GForce>demudi>bugs>bugs>submit-new I don't find any
>   > "assigned-to"...  I must assign it afterwards clicking again
>   > over the submitted bug and I find it a little bit annoying...
>   > (same for priority but maybe I agree that priority must be
>    > assigned by the developper and must not be displayed...)

>Did you login on GForge before submitting the bug?

Yes I did.
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Mr. Spock | 1 Oct 2004 23:47
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Debootstrap error: Couldn't download libgcrypt11

Hello again,

Now my network install is happening as it should, but I get
the following error while Installing The Base System during
the first stage (before rebooting):

  Validating libgcc1
  Debootstrap error   Couldn't download libgcrypt11

I've tried twice (last night, and tonight in 'expert' mode
(as if I am :-)) but get the same message. This is using the 
1.2.0_beta2.iso from 2004-07-20 (unable to download the latest lovely 
just yet), and selecting to use unstable, not testing.

Googling around found that there were some problems with libgcrypt11:

Re: Bug#262344: debian-installer: Please add gnutls11 and gcrypt11 packages
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg02934.html

Bug#268325: debootstrap: Please include libgnutls11 in sarge target
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2004/08/msg00412.html

http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libgcrypt11    is 1.2.0-4
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libgcrypt11   is 1.2.0-6

Should I:
a) choose testing instead of unstable
b) abandon 1.2.0_beta2.iso and get a 1.2.0 somehow
c) sacrifice small furry animals (full moon just passed though...)
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Russell L. Harris | 2 Oct 2004 00:09

Re: Modem can't reach ftp archives

On 10/01/04 16:26:26, Mr. Spock wrote:
> ... I am happy to report
> that we are now behind a firewall running a DHCP server, using
> http://www.freesco.org/
> 
> I looked at http://www.smoothwall.org/ (as friends had been talking
> about it for months) and read all of the fine documentation, but
> decided in the end to go for a floppy-disk based router, since:
> 
> a) my 486 can't boot from CDROM
> b) my 486 might not quite manage SmoothWall
> c) my CDRW is in my audio computer (still dead, Jim)
> d) I love the minimal approach and neat console colours of Freesco
>    (I grew up on Linux with TomsRtBt and HAL91 ;-)

I'm glad to hear that you're running, Malcomb.  You make a good point  
regarding the hardware requirements.  Inasmuch as I no longer have a  
working 486 (all of them died long ago; it must be the heat and  
humidity here in Houston) but I did have a spare hard drive and CD,  
SmoothWall was for me a reasonable approach.

But thanks for bring to our attention the fact that there are firewall/ 
router solutions other than SmoothWall, and at least one which doesn't  
require CD ROM and hard drive.  It was the Linux router project (LRP)  
which fostered the concept of using an old machine as a stand-alone  
firewall/router, but the last time I searched for information about the  
LRP, it seemed that SmoothWall and IPCop were about the only active  
projects.

The goal is to get dial-up working with the least hassle.  If
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Philip Nelson | 2 Oct 2004 01:31
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> b) abandon 1.2.0_beta2.iso and get a 1.2.0 somehow

Probably. There is a final now with lots of bug fixes. Is getting the iso the
problem?

> c) sacrifice small furry animals (full moon just passed though...)

I could send some dust bunnies from the inside of my computer. I think they are
especially helpful in computer matters.

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"There's a difference between righteous anger and just being crabby" - Barbara
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