vinay singh | 24 Aug 17:07 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge]

Two days ago, I filed my first RTI application on line. It was addressed to the UIDAI, so I have sent it to the Planning Commission. For some strange reason, only SBI credit and debit cards are accepted. I paid the Rs. 10 fee by NEFT. I hope the system works.

VK Singh

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anna BVA Office | 24 Aug 21:59 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Govt will send RTI bill to the committee

friends

Annaji has got a call today evening from Govt Minister Narayasamy to inform that RTI Bill will be sent to Standing Committee. Minister requested Annaji not to be agitated as all problems will be sorted out after elections

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Sarbajit Roy | 24 Aug 14:05 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Consideration of RTI (Amendment) Bill 2013

From Indianewsco

The MoS Parliamentary Affairs P.S. Ghatowar announced in Lok Sabha today that RTI Amendment Bill 2013 will be taken up for consideration and passage in the week beginning Monday 26th 2013 along with 9 other important Bills like Nuclear Regulatory Authority Bill 2011 and Street Vendors Bill 2011.



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anna BVA Office | 17 Aug 07:50 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Re: My IAC grievance on selecting RTI Commissioners of Anna Hazare

To:
Shri Vijay Kumbhar

Please refer your below email 16/8/2013 sent from online form at
http://saverti.webege.com
with subject "My IAC grievance on selecting RTI Commissioners of Anna Hazare"

Base on your below email, copy of which is automatically forward to us
and preserved, the  complaint was lodged in President Helpline with
your email ID as told in emails sent to all RTI e-groups.

BVA
Bhrastachar Virodhi Andolan

On 8/16/13, Vijay Kumbhar <kvijay14@...> wrote:
> To:
> 1) Dr. Man Mohan Singh,
> Prime Minister of India, by
> Principal Secretary to Prime Minister
> "oo.prlsecypmo@..."
> Secretary to Prime Minister
> "oo.ramanujam@..."
>
> 2) Smt. Sushma Swaraj,
> Leader of Opposition in Lok Sabha
> "sushmaswaraj@..., sushma.swaraj@..."
>
> 3) Smt. Sonia Gandhi,
> Chairperson NAC
> "chairperson@..., dhiraj.s@..."
>
> cc:
> 4) Mr. Ajit K. Seth,
> Cabinet Secretary,
> "cabinetsy@..."
>
> 5) Mr. Shymal K. Sarkar,
> Secretary Dept of Personnel &amp; Training,
> "secy_mop@..."
>
> 6) Mr. Manoj Joshi,
> Jt. Secretary Dept of Personnel &amp; Training,
> "jsata@..."
>
>
>
> Sub: My Public Grievance on appointing Information Commissioners
>
> Please find enclosed a copy of my Public Grievance lodged today on the
> President of India&#39;s online facility. I am an aggrieved Right To
> Information ("RTI") user and subscriber to the popular movement known as
> &quot;India Against Corruption&quot;
>
> Dr. Anna Hazare and India Against Corruption have issued a public Appeal and
> initially asked Indian citizens not to vote for either the Congress Party or
> the Bharatiya Janta Party (BJP) unless all the 5 vacant posts of Information
> Commissioner in the Central Information Commission are selected exclusively
> from eminent RTI activists and civil society experts who have applied for
> the post.
>
> Their Appeal may be viewed online at Anna's RTI Appeal
>
> Dr. Hazare and India Against Corruption have come to know that the Prime
> Minister (Cong.) and the Leader of Opposition (BJP) have mutually decided
> that maximum number of retired bureaucrats from among their pre-selected
> candidates shall be appointed as Information Commissioners. The candidates
> for the vital post of Chief Information Commissioner have also been
> corruptly restricted to either Mr.P.K. Misra (former Secretary DoPT) or to
> the senior-most of the present Information Commissioners (who are also all
> former bureaucrats) in a thoroughly irregular and unprescribed manner.
>
> It would thus seem that the applications which were solicited and inserted
> in the newspapers and on the DoPT&#39;s website are a only device devised to
> obscure predetermined selections by a process best described as &quot;horse
> trading&quot;. It is certainly strange that all the previous Chief
> Information Commissioners without exception were formerly  Secretaries to
> the Govt. of India.
>
> Dr Anna Hazare and the India Against Corruption stress that sub-section
> 12(5) of the Right to Information Act specifies that
> 	&quot;The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners
> shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and
> experience in law, science and technology, social service, management,
> journalism, mass media or administration and governance.&quot;
> 	
>
> This clause does not specify that only retired bureaucrats shall be
> appointed to these posts. Neither is it envisaged, either in its letters or
> in its spirit, that this clause is to serve as the vehicle for retired
> bureaucrats to retain their luxurious perks of office as sinecures for
> services they rendered while in office.
>
> From the repeated improper practice of appointment of Chief Information
> Commissioners exclusively from the bureaucracy, a popular perception has now
> taken strong hold that the Prime Minister and BJP have corruptly decided
> that Mr. Pradeep Kumar Misra will be appointed as next Chief Information
> Commissioner and they have taken their corrupt decision without issuing any
> notice or publicly seeking applications for the post.
>
> It seems therefrom the present Government and the Opposition BJP only
> appoint pliable persons in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by
> which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to
> escape from giving information about their parties. A pliable person who
> will never impose the RTI Act&#39;s mandatory penalties on the bureaucracy
> so that he will get to keep his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement.
>
> The citizens and affected RTI users are concerned that Mr. Pradeep Kumar
> Misra is such an agreed pliable person and it has been fixed between the
> Prime Minister Dr. Man Mohan Singh (of the Congress Party) and the Leader of
> the Opposition in Lok Sabha Smt. Sushma Swaraj (of the Bharatiya Janta
> Party) that Mr.P.K.Misra and many other such pliable persons will be
> selected to the Central Information Commission and the legitimate
> claims/applications of honest and eminent RTI experts and persons from Civil
> Society shall be corruptly ignored by an unprescribed device of a
> &quot;Screening Committee&quot; which is packed with similarly pliable
> persons.
>
> Accordingly Dr. Anna Hazare and the India Against Corruption have issued
> their present appeal, and as an affected user of RTI Act processes I am
> sufficiently aggrieved by their call, seeing my rights to a fair
> RTI appellate process being hitherto rendered a nullity by appointment of
> pliable
> ex-bureaucrats and former public servants, to protest the selection
> procedures as
> ultra-vires and to demand that the appointments be honest, fully transparent
> and conducted openly.
>
> PRAYER: Kindly see to it that in this round of appointments not even 1 (one)
> ex-public servant is selected so as to redress the gross imbalance in
> backgrounds and experience prevailing in the Central Information Commission,
> and that all its selections are conducted publicly and transparently.
>
> NB: Kindly preserve all correspondence and notings on my instant Grievance
> as I shall be RTI-ing for it, if required, once the selections are
> concluded.
>

--

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's
Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe@...
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

Sarbajit Roy | 16 Aug 10:42 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Re: [rti4empowerment] SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

Dear Ramesh

IAC clearly acknowledges important role of Anna Hazare in the movement.

IAC also clearly acknowledges that Anna Hazare is very much more aligned to style and objectives of IAC than opportunistic political people like Arvind Kejriwal etc.

There are a few differences with Anna over say Jan Lokpal, and Anna's habit of issuing statements on behalf of any "Tom,Dick,Harry" without properly going into antecedents of the cause being promoted. We understand much of this is due to Anna's age and his dependence on persons around him, so IAC does not object too much.

With help of mutual well-wishers, slowly a better communication and understanding is taking place between Anna's team and IAC team. Goal is same - paths may be very different. IAC and Anna bring different resources to the common fight - a lot of it is public posturing, privately things may be different :-)

Sarbajit





On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Ramesh Mumukshu <ramumukshu <at> gmail.com> wrote:
anna was the leader of india agaisnt corruption once and kejriwal used his cap and enite nation was behind the anna. Why you are very much against anna? Will please explain this all happenings. Why there are difference between anna and kejriwal? I think anna become a enemy of india against  corruption, it seems, please make me understand the real issues. Ramesh kumar mumukshu, ramumukshu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
1) The online form is not working

2) In terms of Oct.18 2012 agreement, please do not use "India Against Corruption" wording under Anna's photo's

3) Who is Anna Hazare to select a panel of 5 names ?



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, join bvga <joinbvga-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

PLEASE  ADD  YOUR  NAME

Reply to his email or fill the online form

SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

Save-RTI, stop DoPT secretly appointing only retired babus to Central Information Commission.

ANNA HAZARE APPEALS to INDIA

ANNA HAZARE says only citizens can save RTI now.
ANNA HAZARE says VOTE OUT BOTH Congress and the BJP unless all 5 Information Commissioners appointed now are RTI activists.

Next CIC P.K.Misra - Secretary DoPT

The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from goving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will get his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI

What can citizen do to save RTI?

Section 12(5)of RTI Act
"The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance".This does not mean that only Babus can be appointed

India's War Against Corruption will only succeed if honest persons experienced in fighting against corruption for years and who know the tricks of bureaucracy to deny information are appointed to the Information Commission. Anna has prepared a panel list of 5 such honest activist persons to send it to PM and demand that they and only they be appointed.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "INDIA RTI for empowerment" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rti4empowerment+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "INDIA RTI for empowerment" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rti4empowerment+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



--
Ramesh kumar Mumukshu
Email ID - ramumukshu-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
+919810610400

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anna BVA Office | 16 Aug 09:49 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] PRESS RELEASE: Mr. Pradip Pradhan files first Grievance of "Save RTI " campaign

Issued on behalf of Dr. Anna BVA (Bhrashtachar Virodhi Andolan) Office

Mr. Pradip Pradhan noted RTI activist of Odissha has filed first Grievance of Annaji's "Appeal to Save RTI" campaign to President of India. 99 more are being filed by eminent RTI activists who have joined him.

The subject is corrupt joint decision of Prime Minister and Leader of Opposition in Lok Sabha to appoint only ex-bureaucrats to Central Information Commission.

Mr. Pradhan is member of Anna Campaign Committee, India Against Corruption, Working Committee member of NCPRI and also National RTI Forum.

The Grievance number is PRSEC/E/2013/13102

Text of Mr. Pradhan's Grievance is below.

Subject: Appointment of Information Commissioners

I am an aggrieved Right To Information ("RTI") user,  subscriber to the popular movement known as "India Against Corruption" and member National Campaign for People's Right to Information (NCPRI) and also National RTI Forum

Dr. Anna Hazare and India Against Corruption have come to know that the Prime Minister (Cong.) and the Leader of Opposition (BJP) have mutually decided that maximum number of retired bureaucrats from among their pre-selected candidates shall be appointed as Information Commissioners. The candidates for the vital post of Chief Information Commissioner have also been corruptly restricted to either Mr.P.K. Misra (former Secretary DoPT) or to the senior-most of the present Information Commissioners (who are also all former bureaucrats) in a thoroughly irregular and unprescribed manner, and without issuing any notice or publicly seeking applications for the post of Chief Commissioner.

It would thus seem that the applications which were solicited and inserted in the newspapers and on the DoPT's website from the public and civil society are only a device devised to obscure predetermined selections by a process best described as "horse trading". It is certainly strange that all the previous Chief Information Commissioners without exception were formerly Secretaries to the Govt. of India.

The citizens and affected RTI users are concerned that it has been fixed between the Prime Minister Dr. Man Mohan Singh (of the Congress Party) and the Leader of the Opposition in Lok Sabha Smt. Sushma Swaraj (of the Bharatiya Janta Party) that the legitimate claims/applications of honest and eminent RTI experts and persons from Civil Society shall be corruptly ignored by an unprescribed device of a "Screening Committee" which is packed with pliable persons with many from IAS.

Dr Anna Hazare and the India Against Corruption stress that sub-section 12(5) of the Right to Information Act specifies that 

 "The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance."

This clause does not specify that only retired bureaucrats shall be appointed to these posts. Neither is it envisaged, either in its letters or in its spirit, that this clause is to serve as the vehicle for retired bureaucrats to retain their luxurious perks of office as sinecures for services they rendered while in office.

Accordingly Dr. Anna Hazare and the India Against Corruption have issued their present Appeal, and as an affected user of RTI Act processes I am sufficiently aggrieved by their call, seeing my rights to a fair RTI appellate process being hitherto rendered a nullity by appointment of pliable ex-bureaucrats and former public servants, to protest the selection procedures as ultra-vires and to demand
that the appointments be honest, fully transparent and conducted openly. The Appeal may be viewed online at http://saverti.webege.com

PRAYER: Kindly see to it that in this round of appointments not even 1 (one) ex-public servant is selected so as to redress the gross imbalance in backgrounds and experience prevailing in the Central Information Commission, and that all its selections are conducted publicly and transparently.
PRSEC/E/2013/13102.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
NCPRI INDIA | 15 Aug 11:27 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

To Dear all, 15 August 2013 The National Campaign for Peoples' Right to Information (NCPRI) supports the popular demand expressed by Anna Hazare that selections for 5 approved posts for Central Information Commissioners, including Chief Information Commissioner, be only filled from those applicants who are not from the category "widely experienced in administration and governance", which category has been garnering a disproportionately excessive share in such posts. Thank you, Amrita Johri 9810273984 (On behalf of the NCPRI) -- National Campaign for People's Right to Information Email: ncpri.india-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org www.righttoinformation.info In reply to
Dear all RTI activists

The Govt and BJP have already decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner.
We request all RTI activists to join Anna's Save RTI campaign.

Please reply to this email with your details like name address and mobile.

RTI activists please submit their names, mobile and address for Anna's Save RTI campaign. on this online form also if you are not member of any mailing list
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from giving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will keep his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
1) The online form is not working

2) In terms of Oct.18 2012 agreement, please do not use "India Against Corruption" wording under Anna's photo's

3) Who is Anna Hazare to select a panel of 5 names ?



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, join bvga <joinbvga-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

PLEASE  ADD  YOUR  NAME

Reply to his email or fill the online form

SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

Save-RTI, stop DoPT secretly appointing only retired babus to Central Information Commission.

ANNA HAZARE APPEALS to INDIA

ANNA HAZARE says only citizens can save RTI now.
ANNA HAZARE says VOTE OUT BOTH Congress and the BJP unless all 5 Information Commissioners appointed now are RTI activists.

Next CIC P.K.Misra - Secretary DoPT

The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from goving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will get his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI

What can citizen do to save RTI?

Section 12(5)of RTI Act
"The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance".This does not mean that only Babus can be appointed

India's War Against Corruption will only succeed if honest persons experienced in fighting against corruption for years and who know the tricks of bureaucracy to deny information are appointed to the Information Commission. Anna has prepared a panel list of 5 such honest activist persons to send it to PM and demand that they and only they be appointed.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "INDIA RTI for empowerment" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rti4empowerment+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

Anna BVA Office | 15 Aug 10:59 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Fwd: [rti4empowerment] SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

Dear all RTI activists

The Govt and BJP have already decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner.
We request all RTI activists to join Anna's Save RTI campaign.

Please reply to this email with your details like name address and mobile.

RTI activists please submit their names, mobile and address for Anna's Save RTI campaign. on this online form also if you are not member of any mailing list
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from giving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will keep his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
1) The online form is not working

2) In terms of Oct.18 2012 agreement, please do not use "India Against Corruption" wording under Anna's photo's

3) Who is Anna Hazare to select a panel of 5 names ?



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, join bvga <joinbvga-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

PLEASE  ADD  YOUR  NAME

Reply to his email or fill the online form

SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners

Save-RTI, stop DoPT secretly appointing only retired babus to Central Information Commission.

ANNA HAZARE APPEALS to INDIA

ANNA HAZARE says only citizens can save RTI now.
ANNA HAZARE says VOTE OUT BOTH Congress and the BJP unless all 5 Information Commissioners appointed now are RTI activists.

Next CIC P.K.Misra - Secretary DoPT

The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from goving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will get his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI

What can citizen do to save RTI?

Section 12(5)of RTI Act
"The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance".This does not mean that only Babus can be appointed

India's War Against Corruption will only succeed if honest persons experienced in fighting against corruption for years and who know the tricks of bureaucracy to deny information are appointed to the Information Commission. Anna has prepared a panel list of 5 such honest activist persons to send it to PM and demand that they and only they be appointed.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "INDIA RTI for empowerment" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rti4empowerment+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "INDIA RTI for empowerment" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rti4empowerment+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Pralhad Kachare | 7 Aug 09:40 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Fwd: Appeal to suggest Best Practices



As we are approaching completion of 8th year of RTI regime and lot of positive results have been visible......this is time to take stock of all Best Practices......

We propose to compile
select
Best Practices resulting into systemic improvement by use of RTI.

I would like to appeal all  to please suggest such Best Practices, so that we can send invitation to select Best Practice RTI users. This may be conveyed to all 
those who you believe work and use RTI and there is some Best Practice
 
. In addition to individual RTI Users, We would also like to know & to promote Best Practices adopted by Public Authorities/Information Commissions/Civil Society Organizations  in your areas
...
..........
papers/
suggestions 
may
be 
sent
to rti <at> yashada.org

We propose to organize a
National Level
Best Practices Workshop soon on invitation basis. We look for
well documented papers on RTI use Best Practices to be presented in workshop and further we may compile 
select Best Practices
in a compendium
.


This is time we all must highlight positive aspect of RTI to promote more effective use.

Waiting for
papers,
documentations, suggestions
 and ideas from all.......

With warm regards.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pralhad Kachare
Addiional Collector & Director, 
Center for Right to Information, 
YASHADA, Rajbhavan Complex,
Baner Road,  Pune-411007.02025608146, 9422750464.
          www.rtimassawareness.blogspot.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 














-











--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Venkatraman Ns | 11 Aug 11:05 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Fwd: WHITHER R T I ACT - FINDINGS OF THE INVESTIGATIVE STUDY



To

Humjanange

                                                                                 WHITHER   R T I   ACT  - FINDINGS OF THE INVESTIGATIVE  STUDY

 

Nandini  Voice For The Deprived , a Chennai based NGO (www.nandinivoice.org)  conducted an investigative study on the  satisfaction  level of RTI activists and citizens about the implementation of RTI Act in India.

Several persons from  all over India responded  to the investigative study  and narrated their views and experience .  Based on such response and discussions with cross section of RTI activists, the investigative study was completed  and the findings of the study are given below.

Deteriorating response level :

As per the RTI Act ,the details should be sent  by the concerned authorities  to the information seekers within thirty days. When  RTI Act was introduced with much fanfare, the government departments mostly responded to the request for information within the stipulated time. Even if the particular information could not be made available, there was acknowledgement  of the request and explanations  were provided  about the action taken  in the matter to provide appropriate reply.  

However, in the last  several months , there has been steep deterioration in the response level to the RTI queries . The Public Information Officers   of several  concerned departments do not anymore adhere to  thirty days deadline and they seem to be  taking it easy.  They often respond only after several reminders  and sometimes do not respond at all.

There are many instances when one government department would forward the letter to another department, stating that the other department would be the fit agency to reply, making the process a vicious cycle with the letters being  tossed here and there .

The performance of the state government departments appear to be much worse than the departments  belonging to central government. 

Ineffective Information Commissioners :

In the event of not getting an acknowledgement or suitable reply,  the option left for the RTI activists is to send the complaint to the Information Commissioner. While  Information Commissioner forward  such letters to the Appellate  Authority directing that the reply  should be sent within stipulated period, often Information Commissioner would not follow up the matter.

Several RTI activists complain that the Information Commissioners really function as “post office”. Information Commissioners follow up and conduct enquiry only if the RTI activist would send repeated reminders and constantly call the Information Commissioner’s office. The enquiry  proceedings are also time consuming. There are many persons who have been waiting for reply and suitable action by Information Commissioners for more than one year.

 

What can a citizen do ?

If the Information Commissioner would  routinely deal with the matter without taking  any  effective steps  to force the government department  to provide reply, then the options left for the citizen are very limited. In that case, citizens can only go to judiciary with his complaint and the hearing and judgement  from the judiciary would be prolonged affair.

In such scenario,  several activists give up in despair.

No fear of punishment :

The Public Information Officers of the concerned   departments  do not seem to  have  fear anymore  that disciplinary action would be taken against them,  if they would not respond with the reply within the stipulated time as per the provisions of the Act.

While there are hundreds of cases all over India of delayed response or nil response to the RTI request letters, there is no report of any punishment imposed on the Public Information  officer or Information Commissioner  for dereliction of duty.

Harassment :

Some RTI activists pointed out that when they would seek information about any issue, particularly such as land deal, sand quarrying etc. , the concerned departments sometimes leak out the matter to those who could be affected by the query and consequently they are threatened and harassed.

Several RTI activists warn that those seeking  any information about the  police have to be careful and cautious.

Pessimism  about bringing political parties  under RTI Act :

There are now  several arguments and counter arguments about bringing  political parties under RTI Act.

But, several of the RTI activists are of the view that  even if political parties were to be brought under RTI Act, it would not make much difference , since  they  may not  even acknowledge the receipt of the letters seeking information.

 In a situation where even the government departments  do not take the RTI Act seriously anymore , one cannot expect political parties to behave better.

Is RTI Act now only an empty measure  ?:

Many RTI activists wonder whether the RTI Act has now been rendered as “toothless act” due to the indifference and  lackadaisical  approach of the several government departments.

 Overall, there is huge dissatisfaction in the country about the quality of implementation of the RTI Act.

 


N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Email:- nsvenkatchennai-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org






--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Raminder Singh | 6 Aug 13:07 2013
Picon

[HumJanenge] Re: Poll compulsions make Congress Party agree for RTI

Shailesh

The information was verified at 3 levels in the Congress HQ/Party Office including a call with Mr Moti Lal Vora himself.

The report does not say that Congress will be appointing CPIO etc. It says that Congress has told the reporter that applicants wishing to make pay orders for RTI can do so in name of Chief Accounts Officer cum Admin Manager - SM Moin and their request shall be accepted. Nothing should be read into the story beyond this.

The story also clearly states that Congress Party is not averse to amending the RTI Act to protect its information.

Raminder.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:47 AM, shailesh gandhi <shaileshgan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Credible reporters are saying that this information is not correct


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Vivek Velankar <pranku-k5i2WbfBKyB0amLxoC4uqA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Great !!
Let us hope others will fall in line.
 
regards
 
vivek velankar
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: Fwd: Poll compulsions make Congress Party agree for RTI

Poll compulsions make Congress Party agree for RTI

Rajeev Shukla  | India News Political Bureau, Lucknow, Tuesday July 30, 2013, 20:54 pm (IST)

In a bold development triggered by electoral compulsions to clean up its battered image as the party of scamsters, the Indian National Congress Party has agreed to abide by a Central Information Commission decision and accept RTI applications from the public.

The office of Moti Lal Vora (Treasurer AICC), had informed this reporter that Demand Drafts for RTI requests and other fees could be made out in name of "Chief Accountant-cum-Administrative Officer, All India Congress Committee" payable at New Delhi and sent to "Shri S.M. Moin, Chief Accountant, All India Congress Committee, 24 Akbar Road, New Delhi" along with details of the information sought not exceeding 500 words.

It was further clarified to this reporter that Smt Sonia Gandhi President AICC, and originator of India's landmark RTI Act - a key component of Congress Party's "war on corruption", has specifically instructed for maximum dislcosure by Congress Party to RTI applicants, but mode and sources of finance and also selection of party candidates, would not be disclosed as these are the commercial confidences and trade secrets of the party, and are already exempted from disclosure under the RTI Act. The Congress President has directed that if required the RTI Act would be amended to ensure better protection for intellectual property and trade secrets of corporate bodies like the Congress party.

It may be recalled that activist Subhash Chandra Agrawal of the Aam Aadmi Party has brought 6 national political parties in RTI scope and sought the details of their funding and mode of selection of candidates.





--
Yours in service of RTI

Bhaskar Prabhu
Convenor
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
9892102424








--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Information is a source of learning. But unless it is organized, processed, and available to the right people in a format for decision making, it is a burden, not a benefit.”
William Pollard quotes

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to rtitrainers-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.co.in/group/rtitrainers?hl=en-GB
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Information is a source of learning. But unless it is organized, processed, and available to the right people in a format for decision making, it is a burden, not a benefit.”
William Pollard quotes

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to rtitrainers-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.co.in/group/rtitrainers?hl=en-GB
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 



--
Love
shailesh
All my emails are in Public domain.
Visit: http://www.facebook.com/Revenuetheft
Tel: 91 22 26001003; 8976240798


--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
“Information is a source of learning. But unless it is organized, processed, and available to the right people in a format for decision making, it is a burden, not a benefit.”
William Pollard quotes

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to rtitrainers-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.co.in/group/rtitrainers?hl=en-GB
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RTI Trainers Forum" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rtitrainers+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to HumJanenge+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
 
 

Gmane