Indranil Bhattacharya | 3 Oct 10:51 2013
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[HumJanenge] Mysterious affairs at CIC ?

Dear friends

Does anyone know the process by which Information Commissioners (or their office) admit complaints and appeals, takes action and disposes them? Is it serially as per date of receipt? Or there are other considerations.

If action on a complaint/appeal is delayed for other considerations, can the complainant/appellant expect some intimation from CIC.

I have a Direct Complaint which is received (as online status) and is "under scrutiny' since July 7, 2013. But I discovered that there some direct complaints, received atleast two months after mine, which have been 'admitted' and reflects in the monthly report of the IC.

Interestingly,when I traced these complaints there was no details apart from a name and incomplete address, no email, phone number, no supporting documents that are shown in the 'view details' link of the complaints.

Can someone throw a light on the mystery ?

rgds
I Bhattacharya








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Sarbajit Roy | 4 Oct 09:36 2013
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[HumJanenge] RTI Amendment Bill 2013 (Bill 112/2013)

To:
Joint Secretary (PPG)
Rajya Sabha

04-Oct-2013

BY EMAIL

Sir

This is further to my email of 26.09.2013 concerning public notice dt. 21.09.2013 for the subject Bill.

Please find attached the PDF file containing submissions of the India Against Corruption jan andolan pertaining to the subject Bill.

Our movement would also like to personally appear before the Hon'ble Committee and make our presentations in person.

We would be obliged if you would therefore kindly place our submissions on the record of the Hon'ble Committee for this Bill.

With best wishes,

( Er. Sarbajit Roy )

National Convenor : India Against Corruption, jan andolan
www.indiaagainstcorruption.net.in

Mailing address:
2nd floor, B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024

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Sarbajit Roy | 27 Sep 12:54 2013
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[HumJanenge] Re: NCPRI's suggestions on the RTI Amendment Bill

Dear Bhaskar

Suggestions:

1) I think all flavours of NCPRI probably agree that RTI needs to be
defended. And also that many other bodies like the political parties,
ie. PPPs, PSUs (owned by 2 or more public authorities if not by Govt.)
etc. must be brought under RTI.

2) It must be worked out how 2 incompatible stands  eg. "RTI Act needs
no amendment" and "RTI Act needs to be urgently amended" can be
harmonised.

3) Do you have any clear stand on if the CIC order of 03.06.2013 is
sustainable or not. After all there is no point in defending the
indefensible.

4) Lastly we must not lose sight of the facts that this CIC order was
brought on us by certain professional RTIers who are heavily financed
by political forces as a distraction while the real political
haraamipan is being carried out elsewhere.

Sarbajit

On 9/27/13, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@...> wrote:
> Dear friend,
>
> Thanks for your comments on NCPRI.
>
> Can you give any of your suggestions that you feel necessary to be said
> pertaining to RTi Amendment Bill.
>
> Thanks.
> Bhaskar

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Manoj Pai | 27 Sep 07:15 2013
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[HumJanenge] Govt. ban on foreign email & servers

For a long time, this group has debated on the ban of use of free web based emails like Yahoo!, Hotmail, Gmail
etc. by officials working with various Public Authorities. Even T.O.U. of  the respective email provider
made it clear. Several of the list members like Sarbajit, Karira, Harikumar etc. had emphasized the
various Govt. regulations and NIC policy on ban of usage of such free email services.

Our moderator too had brought this to the notice of various senior officers and secretaries. Given below
are some links which might be of interest to most of you

Indian Govt. use of hotmail, gmail receipe for disaster
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-07-18/india-government-s-use-of-hotmail-gmail-recipe-for-disaster-.html

Indian Govt. bans use of Gmail
http://dottech.org/126462/indian-government-bans-use-gmail-thanks-nsa-spying/

Cyberspying Govt. may ban Gmail for official communication
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/internet/Cyberspying-Government-may-ban-Gmail-for-official-communication/articleshow/22156529.cms

Cyber spying fallout Govt. may restrict usage of Google
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Cyber-spying-fallout-Govt-may-restrict-usage-of-Googles-Gmail-for-employees/articleshow/22157309.cms

Email policy for Govt. employees for official communications
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/e-mail-policy-for-govt-employees-for-official-communications-centre/articleshow/23113282.cms

Govt. drafts policy to curb use of gmail, yahoo for official purposes.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/govt-drafts-policy-to-curb-use-of-gmail-yahoo-for-official-purposes/1174904/

Govt may restrict usage of Google's Gmail for employees
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/Cyber-spying-fallout-Govt-may-restrict-usage-of-Googles-Gmail-for-employees/articleshow/22157309.cms

More on this later

Manoj Pai

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Sarbajit Roy | 27 Sep 10:58 2013
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[HumJanenge] NCPRI's suggestions on the RTI Amendment Bill

Dear Bhaskar / Anjali

NB: Please see why the group "rtitrainers" is not taking posts today
and bouncing emails back. (see footnote)

I think the view you circulated is very shortsighted / retrograde, and
ignores the present ground realities.It would be interesting to know
who attended that NCPRI meeting and who called it.

My own view is as follows

1) NCPRI submits that RTI Act urgently needs to be amended to tackle
many grey areas in the Act which are preventing citizens from
accessing information. This may include specifically defining that
political parties and PPPs etc are covered as "public authority".

2) NCPRI hardly thinks that persons who opposed death penalty for
Kasab, or who have consorted with/for foreign devils (in cozy illegal
govt. caucuses) for years have any right to speak on behalf of
citizens of India or on core anti-corruption tools like RTI whch are
used by
anti-corruption activists. Surely we all recall the mandate of May
2002 when so many eminent people came together in Delhi to form the
NCPRI and the objectives consistently listed on the NCPRI website
since 2002, which (see link below) eminent founding activists like
Ms.Maja Daruwalla or S.D. Sharma will doubtless attest to.

http://ncpri.org/blogs/archive-2002-national-campaign-political-reforms-india-ncpri-1704253

Sarbajit

National Campaign for Political Reform in India
www.ncpri.org

National Campaign to Protect RTI in India
http://ncpri.in

On 9/27/13, Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@...> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Forwarding the suggestion that NCPRI has proposed for RTI Amendment bill.
> Can comment on for any further suggestions.
> Bhaskar
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:
> Date: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM
> Subject: NCPRI's suggestions on the RTI Amendment Bill
> To:
> Cc:
>
> Dear all,
>
> We had an NCPRI meeting yesterday to discuss and evolve NCPRI's suggestions
> to the standing committee on the RTI Amendment bill. At the meeting the
> following position was agreed upon-
>
> 1. The RTI Act should not be amended. This has been the consistent position
> of the NCPRI on the issue. As stated in the CIC order, political parties
> receive extensive benefits from the public exchequer in the form of tax
> exemptions, subsidized land etc. Further, they hold a great deal of
> information that it is in public interest to disclose. Given that the
> current framework governing the transparency of political parties (RP Act,
> IT Act etc.) is very inadequate, it is critical that political parties be
> covered as public authorities under the RTI Act.
>
> 2. There was a discussion regarding the concern expressed by political
> parties about disclosure of information which would harm their competitive
> position. It was felt that although this information is already exempted
> from disclosure under Section 8 (1)(d) but the language is a little
> ambiguous as it states- "the disclosure of which would harm the competitive
> position of third party". Therefore, it was decided that the NCPRI could
> suggest that a clarification can be made by way of rules to state that
> information related to the competitive position of political parties is
> exempted under Section 8(1)(d). In fact we can suggest that this can even
> be done by seeking a clarification from the Central Information Commission
> or the Supreme Court.
>
> If there are any comments/suggestions regarding this broad position,
> please send them as soon as possible so that the representation to the
> Standing Committee can be prepared and circulated in time.
>
> Best wishes and regards,
> Anjali
>
> --
> Yours in service of RTI
>
> Bhaskar Prabhu
> Convenor
> Mahiti Adhikar Manch
> Maharashtra RTI Council
> 9892102424
>
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Vaghela B D | 22 Sep 08:02 2013
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Re:: [HumJanenge] Redressal mechanism for Public Servants victimised for using RTI Act.


Dear All, I have the distinction to be the first RTI user - chargesheeted and suspended in 2006 for using RTI
in own Organisation - Oil PSU - in the initial days of RTI. In my openion based on the experince of decade long
harassment / torture / denial of dues / chargesheets / suspensions / victimisation / legal notices /
overnight police detention during PM visit to IIM Ahmedabad & most recent Court case, I find that largely
one is left to defend oneself as Rights Activist / Whistle Blower. Neither CVC nor Govt nor Bureaucracy nor
Corporates nor Mass Media nor Judiciary help the daredevils working hard to improve transparency /
accountability of public administration / governance to get some respite for crores of suffering
voiceless poor.
It is the hue & cry of the concerned and the vigilant Civil Society and their active protests that can,
through varieties of means including Social Media, can reduce the miseries of these new age freedom
fighters. One can look at the Snowden case. Let us make sincere efforts to help the RTI / Rights Activists &
Whisle Blowers. 
With warm regards, Babubhai Vaghela, Ahmedabad M - 9427608632. As  <at> BabubhaiVaghela on Twitter.

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On Sat 21 Sep, 2013 9:48 PM IST Indranil Bhattacharya wrote:

>Dear all
> It is known to you Public Servants using RTI Act for seeking more
>transparency within an organization are often harassed and
>heckled and sometimes even  frivolous indiscipline and 'insubordination'
>charges are brought in.
>
>When redressal mechanism is not possible within the Public Authority for
>such grievances and CIC is unlikely to bring quick relief (given the high
>pendency), what is the most effective way that a Public Servant can protect
>himself?
>
>It is likely that detailed deliberations have already taken place on this
>topic. I am coming back to the group after a long gap, this time through
>google. Appreciate some views/suggestions from the group.
>Best regards
>I.Bhattacharya
>
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Indranil Bhattacharya | 22 Sep 16:34 2013
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Re: FYI : : [HumJanenge] Redressal mechanism for Public Servants victimised for using RTI Act.

Dear Mr.Vaghela
Thanks you for your mail. While I completely agree with your views on this matter, my experience tells me that 'exemplary' punishments meted out to RTI activists within govt discourages others from using the Act.
This is precisely what the powers that be intend to do. Suspend one officer and twenty others will be cowed down and will dare not use their right to fight corruption. At the end of the day most govt servants look for unblemished service records. As a result the act itself is losing effectiveness.
I Bhattacharya

On 22 September 2013 15:22, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Vaghela B D <vaghelabd <at> yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 23:02:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re:: [HumJanenge] Redressal mechanism for Public Servants
victimised for using RTI Act.
To: humjanenge <at> googlegroups.com
Cc: vaghelabd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org


Dear All, I have the distinction to be the first RTI user -
chargesheeted and suspended in 2006 for using RTI in own Organisation
- Oil PSU - in the initial days of RTI. In my openion based on the
experince of decade long harassment / torture / denial of dues /
chargesheets / suspensions / victimisation / legal notices / overnight
police detention during PM visit to IIM Ahmedabad & most recent Court
case, I find that largely one is left to defend oneself as Rights
Activist / Whistle Blower. Neither CVC nor Govt nor Bureaucracy nor
Corporates nor Mass Media nor Judiciary help the daredevils working
hard to improve transparency / accountability of public administration
/ governance to get some respite for crores of suffering voiceless
poor.
It is the hue & cry of the concerned and the vigilant Civil Society
and their active protests that can, through varieties of means
including Social Media, can reduce the miseries of these new age
freedom fighters. One can look at the Snowden case. Let us make
sincere efforts to help the RTI / Rights Activists & Whisle Blowers.
With warm regards, Babubhai Vaghela, Ahmedabad M - 9427608632. As
<at> BabubhaiVaghela on Twitter.

------------------------------
On Sat 21 Sep, 2013 9:48 PM IST Indranil Bhattacharya wrote:

>Dear all
> It is known to you Public Servants using RTI Act for seeking more
>transparency within an organization are often harassed and
>heckled and sometimes even  frivolous indiscipline and 'insubordination'
>charges are brought in.
>
>When redressal mechanism is not possible within the Public Authority for
>such grievances and CIC is unlikely to bring quick relief (given the high
>pendency), what is the most effective way that a Public Servant can protect
>himself?
>
>It is likely that detailed deliberations have already taken place on this
>topic. I am coming back to the group after a long gap, this time through
>google. Appreciate some views/suggestions from the group.
>Best regards
>I.Bhattacharya
>
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Indranil Bhattacharya | 21 Sep 18:18 2013
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[HumJanenge] Redressal mechanism for Public Servants victimised for using RTI Act.

Dear all
 It is known to you Public Servants using RTI Act for seeking more transparency within an organization are often harassed and heckled and sometimes even  frivolous indiscipline and 'insubordination' charges are brought in.
 
When redressal mechanism is not possible within the Public Authority for such grievances and CIC is unlikely to bring quick relief (given the high pendency), what is the most effective way that a Public Servant can protect himself?
 
It is likely that detailed deliberations have already taken place on this topic. I am coming back to the group after a long gap, this time through google. Appreciate some views/suggestions from the group.
Best regards
I.Bhattacharya

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Pradip Pradhan | 28 Aug 07:52 2013
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[HumJanenge] Fwd: [odishasoochanaadhikarabhiyan] HONOURABLE GOVERNOR ORDERED GA DEPARTMENT TO TAKE NEEDFUL ACTION ON UNLAWFUL ALLOTMENT OF GA PLOT TO WIFE OF THE FORMER INFORMATION COMMISSION SRI JAGADANANDA

  


HONOURABLE GOVERNOR OF ODISHA ORDERED

GA DEPARTMENT TO TAKE NEEDFUL

 ACTION ON UNLAWFUL ALLOTMENT OF

 GA PLOT TO WIFE OF THE FORMER

 INFORMATION COMMISSION SRI JAGADANANDA

Dear friends,

As you all know that former Information Commissioner Sri Jagadananda was in news before his retirement for acquiring a GA plot in his wife’s name unlawfully.

I have registered complaint with the Honourable Governor & Chief Minister requesting for cancellation of lease of plot  No. 58 of Ghatikia area, Bhubanwsar, allotted to Srimati Manjushree Patnaik (Wife of former Information Commissioner Sri Jagadananda).

The honourable Governor has ordered the General Administrative department for needful action and intimate to the petitioner (me) as well as to his office.

Extract of the complaint petition and the letter of governor’s Secretariat are given in attachment for reference.  

With regards

JATYANTA KUMAR DAS,

ODISHA SOOCHANA ADHIKAR ABHIJAN,

9861770749(M)


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Sarbajit Roy | 9 Sep 15:29 2013
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[HumJanenge] Fwd: [NCPRI] Invitation to be part of NCPRI

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Date: Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Subject: [NCPRI] Invitation to be part of NCPRI
To: ncpri <ncpri <at> googlegroups.com>

Dear Comrades

National Campaign for Political Reform in India -NCPRI(Kranti)- invites groups / associations of RTI stakeholders to be apart of NCPRI's platform www.ncpri.org.

The website of NCPRI(Kranti) will soon be operational, and the interested associations, RTI user groups, regional RTI manch's etc. can email us to be allocated their own promotional webpage on NCPRI website www.ncpri.org

We also invite participation from extraordinary individuals who have used RTI to benefit society and who desire a blog on this website.

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Raminder Singh | 9 Sep 06:45 2013
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[HumJanenge] RTI Amendment Bill 2013 - Defend the People's Right to Know, Start Talking to MPs Now

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Venkatesh Nayak <nayak.venkatesh@...>
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 13:46:04 +0530
Subject: RTI Amendment Bill 2013 - Defend the People's Right to Know,
Start Talking to MPs Now

Dear all,

I am writing to thank all of you who took the trouble of reading up our
email alerts on the Right to Information (Amendment) Bill, 2013 and signed
the online petition to the Speaker, Lok Sabha demanding that the Bill be
referred to a Parliamentary Standing Committee for wider public
consultation. We crossed 20,700 within a fortnight.

Thanks to your collective efforts, the Bill has indeed been referred to the
Parliamentary Standing Committee on Personnel, Public Grievances, Law and
Justice chaired by Mr. Shantharam Naik. The list of other 29 members along
with details of their State, constituency, telephone numbers (wherever
available) and email addresses (wherever available) is attached. There are
two vacancies on the Committee. This Committee is serviced by the Rajya
Sabha Secretariat. The public advertisement seeking people's comments on
the RTI Amendment Bill is not out yet. It may be published next week or
later.

This is not the time to sit back and relax. There is no need to wait for
the public advertisement to start the conversation with the members of the
Committee. You have their mobile phone nos. and email addresses at your
disposal now. Every member has at least one of these means of
communication, if not both. Many have both mobile phones and email ids. So
please start sending them smses, tweets or emails explaining why you think
political parties must become transparent about their functioning and
finances. Those of you who think political parties must not be brought
under the RTI Act, this is your opportunity to tell the MPs why you think
so. In a democracy all views must be voiced and heard before the law is
made on the basis of public debate and consensus. Fence sitters, please
make up your mind which way you want to go. So instead of shouting at the
last moment, it is important to keep up the pressure right now. Please send
a copy of your smses, emails or tweets sent to MPs to the mobile phone no.
and email id given below:

venkateshnayak.ss@... and 9871050555.

If you have the resources it is a very good idea to organise a public event
in your city/town/village, invite your local MP and have a public debate on
the RTI (Amendment Bill) at a date and time that is convenient for your MP
and the local people. After attending the meeting he/she can carry the
summary of public opinion on this important issue to his/her party bosses
which will inevitably reach the members of the Parliamentary Committee. If
your MP refuses to participate in the debate despite repeated requests,
please do the following:

1) Publicise the refusal/silence widely through the media (English and
regional language media)

2) Send us an email with proof of refusal. It is enough if you copy the
emails invites and reminders to your MP to the email id given above. If the
debate does not happen despite your efforts for more than a month, that is
evidence enough of the fact that you tried but the MP failed to meet your
expectations.

*Please circulate this email alert as widely as possible. I will keep you
updated on future developments.*

*DEFEND THE PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO KNOW!*
*START TALKING TO MPs NOW!*

Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,
Venkatesh Nayak
*Access to Information Programme*
*Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative*
*B-117, 1st Floor, Sarvodaya Enclave*
*New Delhi- 110 017*
*Tel: +91-11-43180201/ 9871050555*
*Fax: +91-11-26864688*
*Website: www.humanrightsinitiative.org*

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