R. Dua | 21 Jul 18:28 2014
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Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE


We as laymen have recently witnessed a most inappropriate manner of Hon Justice not standing up for a most distinguished member of his own community,in ref to appointment as a Judge of SC.

This very much tells its own tale.So we have no choice but to believe all these gentlemen here who cite these cases.
Please bring back our faith.
This is a plea for all the ppl who hve been wronged.
Regards.

On 21 Jul 2014 08:15, "S L Chowdhary" <slchowdhary <at> gmail.com> wrote:
sir,

thanks for putting thoughts of many like me in words.

you are very true.

any injustice not only amounts to patronising criminals, it forces many victims of justice(or in justice) to go for crime to take justice in his hands. it becomes a vicious circle.

i am happy that there are people like you who also realise the truth.

with kind regards.

s l chowdhary


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I have read all the comments and would like to add the following too: 

1. The courts are the biggest breeding grounds for criminals.

2. Even after preposterous delays the judgments are not fair in most cases.

3. A judge in our court can decide on which party to favour just by tossing 
a coin and then copying the relevant part of the arguments of the party in his order!

4. The courts have messed up our laws to such an extent that to clean it up will require herculean efforts.

5. Just read these citations: 

 In Ittavira Vs Varkey (A 1964 SC 907) the august (?) court has ruled that 'courts have jurisdiction to decide right or to decide wrong and even though they decide wrong, the decrees rendered by them cannot be treated as nullities'.

In Misrilal Vs Sadasiviah (A 1965 SC 553) the apex court has reportedly ruled that 'there can be no interference in revision merely because the decision is erroneous in law or in fact where there is no error pertaining to jurisdiction'.

6. In our courts there is no need for anybody to know any law. The important thing is to  develop the right equations with judges!

and so on....

For more details please read my blogs at http://raviforjustice.blogspot.com

regards n bw

ravi


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Dipak Shah <indiaresists-3hfIC0tI0F8@public.gmane.orgseup.net> wrote:
A Fine Judge , Free , Frank and Fearless , Law abiding Judge I have come across in High Court of Gujarat.


On Thursday, 17 July 2014 5:27 PM, Dipak Shah <djshah1944-/E1597aS9LQ@public.gmane.orgm> wrote:


These cases dismissal were against provisions of law!!! Having taken oath before becoming Justice they take oath , to be frank and fearless , law abiding ,not prejudicial to any body , abiding to constitution etc. Where are they? In fact they do more business . In many cases almost, I had never been heard my argument or even Petition was not read out. See the contrary to petition wherein specifically stated the Hon. High Court Granted stay against the implementation of order. Even then Advocate argued wrongly , represented the case wrongly totally and Hon. Justice Mr J M Panchal was sitting in Hon. Supreme Court of India. By way of just ignoring and Petitioner or party should always file an appeal and spend time and money on Advocates if any employed. Without having any matter of Case of interpretation. 
              Let me give another case. Former Controller of Capital issue was totally corrupt.Taking money and granting hefty premium to public issue I filed a PIL. Second date came up after the date of Budget in 1992. It came up Before Hon. Justice G T Nanavati.( The then Become Hon. Justice of Supreme Court of India ). In budget it was provided that office of Controller of Capital issue was abolished !!!! Hon. Justice gave order saying " Since the office of Controller of Capital Issue is abolished Petition is dismissed" Where is justice!!!! See the document which I have now. I could not send other documents. They are ( Forgot in India) lying in CD placed in India. There are as many as 20 such cases. One among them is A Case of Dividend paid out of capital , illegal payment of dividend. Which can be observed from attached documents. On record it is proved the other way out. No thing done!!!! All Law Supervising Ministry of Corporate Affairs , Registrar of Companies , Official Liquidators are silent for last 19 years!!! See the attached documents. It is very hard to get through the documents , unless you have very knowledge of Accounts and Companies Act. All provisions of Law had been thrown a way in deciding the matter of merger!!!!!
Shah D J
USA


On Thursday, 17 July 2014 12:33 PM, Dipak Shah <indiaresists-3hfIC0tI0F+k/GrYEfjPQg@public.gmane.org> wrote:


If any body goes to my cases at  High Court of Gujarat , one will wonder of Justice and also they were sit in Hon. Supreme Court of India!!!!
Shah D J


On Tuesday, 15 July 2014 9:27 PM, Prasad Vaidya <pbv1968-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


The Judges are sitting as expert in every matter and in every subject. The Supreme Court it self is violating fundamental rights . The matters filed by party in person are heard lastly and matters are listed at the bottm. Right to file writ petition u/a 32 of constitution but party person is compelled to request to court to allow him to file writ petition This is deadly unconstitutional decision.
Supreme Court is protecting corrupt decision of imposing bar examination which is deadly unconstitutional but petition challanging bar exam is kept pending purposefully by Supreme Court and Supreme Court want to see Ad Gopal Surahmanyam as Judge of SCI the person who took unconstitutional decision and acted like dectator.
The High Court judges are not reading notes of arguments and hearing only 10 to 20 % arguments and pasing order in final hearing matter instead of passing judgment. The judges are not knowing that there is no limitation for filing writ petition.
How you can say SCI is crying



On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Dr. J. K. Chaudhry <jkchaudhry-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
There are well known cases,where judgement wasNEVER delivered by Supreme Court.
Do you believe?
Devi Lal oath of office in union cabinet.
J.K.Chaudhry

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Gopalarao Rao <gvgrao33-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

It is said that justice delayed is justice denied. There is one case pending in the high court for the last 7 yrs and GOK when the judgement will be issued also whether it will be delivered during my life time ( I am now 81)
Some one from the high court may know my plight.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 21, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

It is the courts and courts only which are responsible not only for the subversion of the justice delivery system but for the increasing lawlessness and crimes. Just ask how many times the apex court had entertained bail applications of Raja and Kanimozhi? And now they are shamelessly trying to pass on the buck to the Parliament. Why courts, even quasi judicial organisation have been following the bad example of courts and have been only draining the exchequer without delivering even 1 percent of what they are tasked to deliver. The district forum in Palakkad had been adjourning a consumer complaint of a complainant in the adjoining district involving a doctor for years on end. Almost after ten years I sought info on the status of the complaint. I got the info that it is pending. But at the next date for hearing it was dismissed! I complained to the minister for consumer affairs and the chief minister here. Nothing happened, except that in response to the complaint to the CM the President of the Forum said that the stipulation of three months for disposing a complaint is only a guideline and that was it! For details please read my blogs:

Obnoxious functioning of consumer fora/commissions- letter to minister (of 8/1/11) at 

Chief MInister's Contact Program-consumer fora at 


FRAUD IN GOVERNANCE AND REDRESSAL OF PUBLIC GRIEVANCES at

Eight years of right to information: Are those responsible for governance idiots or traitors? at

and more...

regards n bw

ravi


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Forum for Fast Justice <fastjustice-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE

Appex Court appeals to the Parliament for legislating appropriate laws and to the Government for rationalising decision making process for stemming vicious and frivolous cases and appeals being filed. Read the last paras in the Surbroto Roy Sahara's recent Supreme Court Judgement.

(Bhagvanji Raiyani)
Chairman & Managing Trustee
Forum For Fast Justice


“REPORTABLE”
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA
CRIMINAL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION
WRIT PETITION (CRIMINAL) NO. 57 OF 2014

Subrata Roy Sahara …. Petitioner
versus
Union of India and others …. Respondents

J U D G M E N T
Jagdish Singh Khehar, J.


149. A lot of these hearings consumed this Court’s full working day. Hearing of the main case, consumed one full part, of the entire summer vacation (of the Supreme Court) of the year 2012. For the various orders passed by us, including the order dated 31.8.2012 (running into 269 printed pages) and the present order (running into 205 printed pages), substantial Judge hours were consumed. In this country, judicial orders are prepared, beyond Court hours, or on non-working days. It is apparent, that not a hundred, but hundreds of Judge hours, came to be spent in the instant single Sahara Group litigation, just at the hands of the Supreme Court. This abuse of the judicial process, needs to be remedied. We are, therefore of the considered view, that the legislature needs to give a thought, to a very serious malady, which has made strong inroads into the Indian judicial system.
150. The Indian judicial system is grossly afflicted, with frivolous litigation. Ways and means need to be evolved, to deter litigants from their compulsive obsession, towards senseless and ill-considered claims. One needs to keep in mind, that in the process of litigation, there is an innocent sufferer on the other side, of every irresponsible and senseless claim. He suffers long drawn anxious periods of nervousness and restlessness, whilst the litigation is pending, without any fault on his part. He pays for the litigation, from out of his savings (or out of his borrowings), worrying that the other side may trick him into defeat, for no fault of his. He spends invaluable time briefing counsel and preparing them for his claim. Time which he should have spent at work, or with his family, is lost, for no fault of his. Should a litigant not be compensated for, what he has lost, for no fault? The suggestion to the legislature is, that a litigant who has succeeded, must be compensated by the one, who has lost. The suggestion to the legislature is to formulate a mechanism, that anyone who initiates and continues a litigation senselessly, pays for the same. It is suggested that the legislature should consider the introduction of a “Code of Compulsory Costs”.
151. We should not be taken to have suggested, that the cost of litigation should be enhanced. It is not our suggestion, that Court fee or other litigation related costs, should be raised. Access to justice and related costs, should be as free and as low, as possible. What is sought to be redressed is a habituation, to press illegitimate claims. This practice and pattern is so rampant, that in most cases, disputes which ought to have been settled in no time at all, before the first Court of incidence, are prolonged endlessly, for years and years, and from Court to Court, upto the highest Court.
152. This abuse of the judicial process is not limited to any particular class of litigants. The State and its agencies litigate endlessly upto the highest Court, just because of the lack of responsibility, to take decisions. So much so, that we have started to entertain the impression, that all administrative and executive decision making, are being left to Courts, just for that reason. In private litigation as well, the concerned litigant would continue to approach the higher Court, despite the fact that he had lost in every Court hitherto before. The effort is not to discourage a litigant, in whose perception, his cause is fair and legitimate. The effort is only to introduce consequences, if the litigant’s perception was incorrect, and if his cause is found to be, not fair and legitimate, he must pay for the same. In the present setting of the adjudicatory process, a litigant, no matter how irresponsible he is, suffers no consequences. Every litigant, therefore likes to take a chance, even when counsel’s advice is otherwise.
153. Does the concerned litigant realize, that the litigant on the other side has had to defend himself, from Court to Court, and has had to incur expenses towards such defence? And there are some litigants who continue to pursue senseless and ill-considered claims, to somehow or the other, defeat the process of law. The present case, is a classic illustration of what we wish to express. Herein the regulating authority has had to suffer litigation from Court to Court, incurring public expense in its defence, against frivolous litigation. Every order was consistently and systematically disobeyed. Every order passed by the SEBI was assailed before the next higher authority, and then before this Court. Even though High Courts have no jurisdiction, in respect of issues regulated by the SEBI Act, some matters were taken to the High Court of Judicature at Allahabad (before its Lucknow Bench). Every such endeavour resulted in failure, and was also sometimes, accompanied with strictures. Even after the matter had concluded, after the controversy had attained finality, the judicial process is still being abused, for close to two years. A conscious effort on the part of the legislature in this behalf, would serve several purposes. It would, besides everything else, reduce frivolous litigation. When the litigating party understands, that it would have to compensate the party which succeeds, unnecessary litigation will be substantially reduced. At the end of the day, Court time lost is a direct loss to the nation. It is about time, that the legislature should evolve ways and means to curtail this unmindful activity. We are sure, that an eventual determination, one way or the other, would be in the best interest of this country, as also, its countrymen.
…………………………….J.
(K.S. Radhakrishnan)
…………………………….J.
(Jagdish Singh Khehar)
New Delhi;
May 6, 2014.


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Dipak Shah | 18 Jul 00:48 2014
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Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE

A Fine Judge , Free , Frank and Fearless , Law abiding Judge I have come across in High Court of Gujarat.


On Thursday, 17 July 2014 5:27 PM, Dipak Shah <djshah1944-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


These cases dismissal were against provisions of law!!! Having taken oath before becoming Justice they take oath , to be frank and fearless , law abiding ,not prejudicial to any body , abiding to constitution etc. Where are they? In fact they do more business . In many cases almost, I had never been heard my argument or even Petition was not read out. See the contrary to petition wherein specifically stated the Hon. High Court Granted stay against the implementation of order. Even then Advocate argued wrongly , represented the case wrongly totally and Hon. Justice Mr J M Panchal was sitting in Hon. Supreme Court of India. By way of just ignoring and Petitioner or party should always file an appeal and spend time and money on Advocates if any employed. Without having any matter of Case of interpretation. 
              Let me give another case. Former Controller of Capital issue was totally corrupt.Taking money and granting hefty premium to public issue I filed a PIL. Second date came up after the date of Budget in 1992. It came up Before Hon. Justice G T Nanavati.( The then Become Hon. Justice of Supreme Court of India ). In budget it was provided that office of Controller of Capital issue was abolished !!!! Hon. Justice gave order saying " Since the office of Controller of Capital Issue is abolished Petition is dismissed" Where is justice!!!! See the document which I have now. I could not send other documents. They are ( Forgot in India) lying in CD placed in India. There are as many as 20 such cases. One among them is A Case of Dividend paid out of capital , illegal payment of dividend. Which can be observed from attached documents. On record it is proved the other way out. No thing done!!!! All Law Supervising Ministry of Corporate Affairs , Registrar of Companies , Official Liquidators are silent for last 19 years!!! See the attached documents. It is very hard to get through the documents , unless you have very knowledge of Accounts and Companies Act. All provisions of Law had been thrown a way in deciding the matter of merger!!!!!
Shah D J
USA


On Thursday, 17 July 2014 12:33 PM, Dipak Shah <indiaresists-3hfIC0tI0F+k/GrYEfjPQg@public.gmane.org> wrote:


If any body goes to my cases at  High Court of Gujarat , one will wonder of Justice and also they were sit in Hon. Supreme Court of India!!!!
Shah D J


On Tuesday, 15 July 2014 9:27 PM, Prasad Vaidya <pbv1968-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


The Judges are sitting as expert in every matter and in every subject. The Supreme Court it self is violating fundamental rights . The matters filed by party in person are heard lastly and matters are listed at the bottm. Right to file writ petition u/a 32 of constitution but party person is compelled to request to court to allow him to file writ petition This is deadly unconstitutional decision.
Supreme Court is protecting corrupt decision of imposing bar examination which is deadly unconstitutional but petition challanging bar exam is kept pending purposefully by Supreme Court and Supreme Court want to see Ad Gopal Surahmanyam as Judge of SCI the person who took unconstitutional decision and acted like dectator.
The High Court judges are not reading notes of arguments and hearing only 10 to 20 % arguments and pasing order in final hearing matter instead of passing judgment. The judges are not knowing that there is no limitation for filing writ petition.
How you can say SCI is crying



On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Dr. J. K. Chaudhry <jkchaudhry <at> gmail.com> wrote:
There are well known cases,where judgement wasNEVER delivered by Supreme Court.
Do you believe?
Devi Lal oath of office in union cabinet.
J.K.Chaudhry

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Gopalarao Rao <gvgrao33-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

It is said that justice delayed is justice denied. There is one case pending in the high court for the last 7 yrs and GOK when the judgement will be issued also whether it will be delivered during my life time ( I am now 81)
Some one from the high court may know my plight.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 21, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

It is the courts and courts only which are responsible not only for the subversion of the justice delivery system but for the increasing lawlessness and crimes. Just ask how many times the apex court had entertained bail applications of Raja and Kanimozhi? And now they are shamelessly trying to pass on the buck to the Parliament. Why courts, even quasi judicial organisation have been following the bad example of courts and have been only draining the exchequer without delivering even 1 percent of what they are tasked to deliver. The district forum in Palakkad had been adjourning a consumer complaint of a complainant in the adjoining district involving a doctor for years on end. Almost after ten years I sought info on the status of the complaint. I got the info that it is pending. But at the next date for hearing it was dismissed! I complained to the minister for consumer affairs and the chief minister here. Nothing happened, except that in response to the complaint to the CM the President of the Forum said that the stipulation of three months for disposing a complaint is only a guideline and that was it! For details please read my blogs:

Obnoxious functioning of consumer fora/commissions- letter to minister (of 8/1/11) at 

Chief MInister's Contact Program-consumer fora at 


FRAUD IN GOVERNANCE AND REDRESSAL OF PUBLIC GRIEVANCES at

Eight years of right to information: Are those responsible for governance idiots or traitors? at

and more...

regards n bw

ravi


On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Forum for Fast Justice <fastjustice <at> gmail.com> wrote:


SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE

Appex Court appeals to the Parliament for legislating appropriate laws and to the Government for rationalising decision making process for stemming vicious and frivolous cases and appeals being filed. Read the last paras in the Surbroto Roy Sahara's recent Supreme Court Judgement.

(Bhagvanji Raiyani)
Chairman & Managing Trustee
Forum For Fast Justice


“REPORTABLE”
IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA
CRIMINAL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION
WRIT PETITION (CRIMINAL) NO. 57 OF 2014

Subrata Roy Sahara …. Petitioner
versus
Union of India and others …. Respondents

J U D G M E N T
Jagdish Singh Khehar, J.


149. A lot of these hearings consumed this Court’s full working day. Hearing of the main case, consumed one full part, of the entire summer vacation (of the Supreme Court) of the year 2012. For the various orders passed by us, including the order dated 31.8.2012 (running into 269 printed pages) and the present order (running into 205 printed pages), substantial Judge hours were consumed. In this country, judicial orders are prepared, beyond Court hours, or on non-working days. It is apparent, that not a hundred, but hundreds of Judge hours, came to be spent in the instant single Sahara Group litigation, just at the hands of the Supreme Court. This abuse of the judicial process, needs to be remedied. We are, therefore of the considered view, that the legislature needs to give a thought, to a very serious malady, which has made strong inroads into the Indian judicial system.
150. The Indian judicial system is grossly afflicted, with frivolous litigation. Ways and means need to be evolved, to deter litigants from their compulsive obsession, towards senseless and ill-considered claims. One needs to keep in mind, that in the process of litigation, there is an innocent sufferer on the other side, of every irresponsible and senseless claim. He suffers long drawn anxious periods of nervousness and restlessness, whilst the litigation is pending, without any fault on his part. He pays for the litigation, from out of his savings (or out of his borrowings), worrying that the other side may trick him into defeat, for no fault of his. He spends invaluable time briefing counsel and preparing them for his claim. Time which he should have spent at work, or with his family, is lost, for no fault of his. Should a litigant not be compensated for, what he has lost, for no fault? The suggestion to the legislature is, that a litigant who has succeeded, must be compensated by the one, who has lost. The suggestion to the legislature is to formulate a mechanism, that anyone who initiates and continues a litigation senselessly, pays for the same. It is suggested that the legislature should consider the introduction of a “Code of Compulsory Costs”.
151. We should not be taken to have suggested, that the cost of litigation should be enhanced. It is not our suggestion, that Court fee or other litigation related costs, should be raised. Access to justice and related costs, should be as free and as low, as possible. What is sought to be redressed is a habituation, to press illegitimate claims. This practice and pattern is so rampant, that in most cases, disputes which ought to have been settled in no time at all, before the first Court of incidence, are prolonged endlessly, for years and years, and from Court to Court, upto the highest Court.
152. This abuse of the judicial process is not limited to any particular class of litigants. The State and its agencies litigate endlessly upto the highest Court, just because of the lack of responsibility, to take decisions. So much so, that we have started to entertain the impression, that all administrative and executive decision making, are being left to Courts, just for that reason. In private litigation as well, the concerned litigant would continue to approach the higher Court, despite the fact that he had lost in every Court hitherto before. The effort is not to discourage a litigant, in whose perception, his cause is fair and legitimate. The effort is only to introduce consequences, if the litigant’s perception was incorrect, and if his cause is found to be, not fair and legitimate, he must pay for the same. In the present setting of the adjudicatory process, a litigant, no matter how irresponsible he is, suffers no consequences. Every litigant, therefore likes to take a chance, even when counsel’s advice is otherwise.
153. Does the concerned litigant realize, that the litigant on the other side has had to defend himself, from Court to Court, and has had to incur expenses towards such defence? And there are some litigants who continue to pursue senseless and ill-considered claims, to somehow or the other, defeat the process of law. The present case, is a classic illustration of what we wish to express. Herein the regulating authority has had to suffer litigation from Court to Court, incurring public expense in its defence, against frivolous litigation. Every order was consistently and systematically disobeyed. Every order passed by the SEBI was assailed before the next higher authority, and then before this Court. Even though High Courts have no jurisdiction, in respect of issues regulated by the SEBI Act, some matters were taken to the High Court of Judicature at Allahabad (before its Lucknow Bench). Every such endeavour resulted in failure, and was also sometimes, accompanied with strictures. Even after the matter had concluded, after the controversy had attained finality, the judicial process is still being abused, for close to two years. A conscious effort on the part of the legislature in this behalf, would serve several purposes. It would, besides everything else, reduce frivolous litigation. When the litigating party understands, that it would have to compensate the party which succeeds, unnecessary litigation will be substantially reduced. At the end of the day, Court time lost is a direct loss to the nation. It is about time, that the legislature should evolve ways and means to curtail this unmindful activity. We are sure, that an eventual determination, one way or the other, would be in the best interest of this country, as also, its countrymen.
…………………………….J.
(K.S. Radhakrishnan)
…………………………….J.
(Jagdish Singh Khehar)
New Delhi;
May 6, 2014.


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Shail Bansal | 16 Jul 18:46 2014
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[IAC#RG] Fwd: New post "New chief of Delhi BJP - ..." in [Supporters of BJP and Narendra Modi]



Rajesh Suri posted a message in "Supporters of BJP and Narendra Modi".
Subject: New chief of Delhi BJP - I smell arrogance.
Is this the best BJP could get for the head position. Will he be the CM candidate if elections are held??
The interview below smells of arrogance to me.

Satish Upadhyay's appointment as chief of the state BJP unit has raised hopes of an early decision on Delhi's political future. Is the BJP going to pull a surprise by staking claim to form the government or is the Lieutenant Governor going to announce fresh polls?

The new state BJP president faces an aggressive Congress leadership and a determined Aam Admi Party who are doing all they can to turn the power crisis and issue of price rise to their political advantage. He also faces the daunting task of putting the state BJP unit in order and bringing the warring factions within the party together.

]Satish Upadhyay: Pallavi Polanki/Firstpost Satish Upadhyay: Pallavi Polanki/Firstpost An RSS worker till 1981, Upadhyay's political career began as a student leader in the ABVP. Steadily rising within the ranks of the party, he went on become the president and the general secretary of BJP's youth wing. In 2010, he was made the vice-president of the Delhi BJP unit and in 2012 decided to contest municipal elections.

A councillor from Malviya Nagar, Upadhyay was appointed chairman of the Standing Committee of the South Delhi Municipal Corporation last year.

Firstpost spoke to Upadhyay about his plans for the BJP in Delhi.

Excerpts from the interview.

You have spoken about the need to address the ‘trust deficit' among Delhi voters. What has led to this ‘trust-deficit'?

It is not as if something has happened that has led to a trust-deficit. If my Opposition is getting more vote-share, it is a cause of concern for us. That means there is some lack of trust and I have to build that trust. It is not as if there has been a specific incident that led to it. Ultimately, life is about faith. If you have faith in something, you will give your life for it. Same with a party. Whatever be the trust deficit, be it among women voters who are feeling insecure, or the elderly, or businessman for that matter, we need to address that.

And how do you plan to address it?
It is all about communication and education. There is no other way. We want to reach out to the people. My mission in life is faith rebuilding in society. This is my personal mission. If I commit to something, I will do everything in my power to fulfil it.

What is your message to the BJP cadre?

To address the trust deficit and to re-build faith in society. There has to be faith between party workers, between juniors and seniors. It is not about competition but cooperation.

How would you describe your style as a leader?

I am a very simple person. My approach is always humble. I am a simple karyakarta. I'm not very ambitious about certain things. What I say, I do.

By choosing someone like yourself to lead the party in Delhi, what message is do you think the party is sending out?

I don't have any political legacy. The message the party is sending is that a common party worker who is young, energetic, sincere can aim for the top post. Today I met Advaniji. I have met him hundreds of times before but today for the first time he interacted with me for half-an-hour. He said he was amazed that I had such a long history with the party. I tend to keep a low profile. I don't like to push myself into the spotlight. He said that he appreciated this about me.

Did you expect to be given this responsibility?

I had some kind of an inkling. I was asked before. But I had humbly said ‘no'. It is a big responsibility. I am a family person. I have two wonderful daughters. I have a son. One of my daughters is a lawyer. She has just come back from Cambridge. To take on this responsibility is to forget about your family. Now I have decided. I have talked to my family. I am no more a family man. I am a party man. I have to work.

You have been a member of the RSS. How much of an influence will your RSS background have on your current role?

Not RSS. I am influenced by Vivekananda. In school, I read him a lot. I also read Swami Munshi Premchand. In my family, there was no one with an RSS background. I joined the RSS shakha. Then I joined the Vidyarthi Parishad. I was the youngest Delhi University Student Union president. I then went on join the BJYM (Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha).

Have you had the chance to meet Amit Shah? Did the new BJP president have any advice for you?

Yes I met him. He is a dynamic leader. He is my party president. Delhi will benefit from his guidance and dynamism.

You have spoken about the need to strengthen the party organisation. What are some of your other big priorities when it comes to the party?

There should not be any factionalism within the party. Every party worker should get his due. It is very difficult to get to know each and every worker, but if I try to ensure that the auditing of party workers happens based on merit, that is important.

How do you plan to deal with the infighting within the party?

In a large organisation, these issues will be there. As head of the party, it is my responsibility to address the issues of groupism and factionalism. I am a trustee of the organisation. My role is to put my house in order. And two, whatever needs to be done to put my house in order, be it organisational change or something else, I will do it. I am very clear.

What is your reading of the situation in Delhi?

Everyone wants an elected government in Delhi. There are only two options - either government formation or election. If there is government formation, how it will happen is a million dollar question. If there are elections, when will they be held, what is the LG's opinion, what is the legal remedy, can there be a minority government? I don't know. Therefore, our strategy is: we have to be ready for elections.

My main thrust is to organise party workers - the seniors, the youth, the ladies, the minorities. Delhi is a capital city that attracts people from Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Uttaranchal, Punjab, the North East and South India. By inviting them, I want to address their concerns and build their faith.

Our priority is to spread Modiji's mantra of good governance.

Why this delay in taking a call on Delhi?

The national election was our priority. Now that is over. One by one, we are taking up the issues. One is organisation. Second is election. I will talk to my MLAs, the seniors, the core group members and ask them what their view is. Things take time to take shape. I have been assigned a responsibility. I have to take everyone into confidence.

If elections are called today, what will be the main focus of the BJP's campaign?

Good governance. Sabka Vikaas, Sabka Saath. Ek Bharat Shreshtha Bharat. The main focus will be good governance in Delhi.

Is the BJP missing a strong CM candidate this time?

We have a lot of leaders with us. Who knew Satish Upadhyay? But today everyone knows him. The party has a lot of talent. So we will find the best talent.

Is the BJP ready for polls in Delhi?

We have to be. We are a political party. We don't have any other option.

AAP has accused the BJP of trying to buy their MLAs.

Did we ask Binny to leave? Did we tell Shazia Ilmi to quit? Were we responsible for Yogendra Yadav's resignation? This is their fear psychosis talking. We have nothing to do with them. These are false allegations, they have no meaning.

In media reports, you are quoted as saying AAP has no vote-bank.

I don't say they don't have a vote bank. AAP was a momentary thing. It was a by-product of the Anna movement. People were fed up with the Sheila Dikshit government and they thought they had an option in AAP. And AAP got 28 seats. If this was their vote-bank what happened in the Lok Sabha polls? Around the country, their candidates lost their deposit in over 400 seats.

They did however increase their vote-share in Delhi .What is your strategy to deal with AAP?

AAP and Congress are the same. There is no difference between them.

The Congress has launched an aggressive campaign over the power crisis and price rise. How do you plan to counter that?

The Congress has no other option. My political strategy is very clear. This is a legacy of the previous government. With the Modi government taking charge, you will see that in the coming quarters, the people who are making fun of acche din, will have to eat their words. Action is more important than words. The Congress is frustrated. We are not threatened by them at all.

Is Arvind Kejriwal a concern for the BJP?
I don't see Kejriwal in isolation. Be it Kerjiwal, be it Congress, I see them as my Opposition. And the Opposition is a threat.
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Sarbajit Roy | 10 Jul 03:50 2014
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[IAC#RG] Kind Attn : Adv. Aires Rodrigues (& Ors.)

The Moderators of this e-list would appreciate if posters would
either stick to the topic / subject of the thread, OR start a new
thread with a subject which describes their post.

For instance members who expect to read about Whistleblowers Day
can hardly be expected to read an expose on Sanjit Rodrigues.

Also, please keep the subject field of emails to this list - short and sweet.

Thanks

Sarbajit

On 7/6/14, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1@...> wrote:
> TIME TO PROBE SANJIT  RODRIGUES
>
> By Aires Rodrigues
>
> Those three flats at prime locations may not be the only assets acquired by
> Sanjit Rodrigues, the Managing Director of Goa State Infrastructure
> Development Corporation (GSIDC) who is also the Commissioner of City of
> Panaji.
>
> Have been receiving information about other properties allegedly acquired
> by Sanjit Rodrigues also in the name of his family members. His family
> members are within their rights to own any properties but not if Sanjit
> Rodrigues has been the catalyst...in effect, what is known as ‘benami’
> transactions.
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Aires Rodrigues | 6 Jul 08:55 2014
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Re: [IAC#RG] Mark "National Whistleblower Day" in India on 30th July 2014 : Either be with us in Lucknow or Wherever you are, just blow- the- whistle at 12:00 Noon in broad daylight at some prominent place of your city to help encourage whistleblowing in

TIME TO PROBE SANJIT  RODRIGUES

 

By Aires Rodrigues 

 

Those three flats at prime locations may not be the only assets acquired by Sanjit Rodrigues, the Managing Director of Goa State Infrastructure Development Corporation (GSIDC) who is also the Commissioner of City of Panaji.

 

Have been receiving information about other properties allegedly acquired by Sanjit Rodrigues also in the name of his family members. His family members are within their rights to own any properties but not if Sanjit Rodrigues has been the catalyst...in effect, what is known as ‘benami’ transactions.

 

While other officers are transferred every three years if not earlier, is it not surprising that Sanjit Rodrigues has retained his prized posting as Managing Director of GSIDC for over five years? Only after an inventory of his assets including the undeclared ones is compiled, would we know the extent to which Sanjit Rodrigues has gone to enhance and enlarge his own infrastructure.

 

To be able to finalise this inventory please send across any information that you may have on Sanjit Rodrigues.  You can send it by post to: Aires Rodrigues, Ribandar, Goa. You can also email me on airesrodrigues1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org  or airesrodrigues-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org. In the alternative you could also SMS/Call me on 9822684372. Can also be reached on Facebook.com/AiresRodrigues or Twitter <at> rodrigues_aires

 

The information sent has to necessarily be absolutely true, very accurate and authentic. No hearsay, presumptions or guesses please. In any case, all information would be meticulously double-checked for veracity before submission to the concerned authorities.

 

Sources in the Directorate of Accounts inform that the current monthly gross salary of Sanjit Rodrigues is Rs.1,09,684/-.  After statutory deductions he must be getting around 80,000 a month. How on earth is he able to pay the loans of those three flats he has officially declared and beat the current inflation while also maintaining his flamboyant life style? Is he surviving on love and fresh air?

 

The fight is not against the person of Sanjit Rodrigues. It is against the cancer of corruption that has engulfed and enveloped the entire administration. We just cannot give up. The battle has to start somewhere and be ongoing to weed out as many stems that are eating into the State exchequer. Such officers deserve to be lined up to be housed in Goa’s Central jail at Colvale which is scheduled to be inaugurated soon. 30th July is National Whistleblower Day. But we need to be blowing that whistle loud and clear every day. Officers with knee deep assets accumulated by devious means cannot be allowed to be on the prowl.



On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

BV WANCHOO WAS A VERY DIGNIFIED GOVERNOR

 

By Aires Rodrigues

 

Goa will miss BV Wanchoo who has very distinguishably done justice as a very proactive Governor over the last two years. Beginning with Nakul Sen having interacted with every Governor since 1972, without any shadow of doubt BV Wanchoo clearly outstands them all. He was extremely people friendly and though very knowledgeable was always ready to learn. A gentleman to the core.  Always gave everyone a very patient and polite hearing with an open mind unlike many of his predecessors including Kidar Nath Sahani who was very intolerant to hear the other side of the ‘Kahani’.

 

With the change in guard at the centre the law did not require BV Wanchoo to resign and he could have continued as Governor for another three years. But he chose to spare himself of the mudslinging that the NDA leaders would have craftily unleashed to hound him. If the Raj Bhavans have to be kept out of the political stink, persons like BV Wanchoo not carrying political baggage was the way to go. Regardless of all the rhetoric we have heard over the last few weeks, this Government will not walk the talk but as expected has a string of ageing RSS pracaharaks lined up to move into the Raj Bhavans which will now be their saffonised retirement homes at tax payer’s expense.



On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Justice KamleshwarNath <justicekn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
My dear Urvashi ji,

        Congratulations for organizing the Whistleblower event. I would participate from 11 AM to 12.15 PM; I regret I cannot stay longer.

        I am keen to know the names and principal deeds of Whistleblower Martyrs. It would be important if it can be shown that danger to their lives had been officially communicated to some Authority. The case of Sateyndra Dubey is famous; he had specifically asked the Government not to disclose his name in any way! If possible, let me know other instances.

        Best Wishes,
             KN

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From: indiaresists-request-3hfIC0tI0F+k/GrYEfjPQg@public.gmane.org [mailto:indiaresists-request <at> lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of urvashi sharma
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Subject: [IAC#RG] Mark "National Whistleblower Day" in India on 30th July 2014 : Either be with us in Lucknow or Wherever you are, just blow- the- whistle at 12:00 Noon in broad daylight at some prominent place of your city to help encourage whistleblowing in INDI

Dear friends,
YAISHWARYAJ Seva Sansthan Lucknow invites you to the capital city of
Uttar Pradesh on 30-07-14 to mark First "National Whistleblower Day"
in India.


I, on behalf of YAISHWARYAJ, am requesting you to come to Lucknow to
Pay Homage to those who sacrificed their lives for society and foster
courage in those who are still fighting against all odds.

Date  : 30-07-2014
Time : 11 AM onwards
Place : Gandhi Statue Compound, Main Hazratganj Crossing, Near G.P.O.
Lucknow-226001, Uttar Pradesh, India
Mobile Contacts : 08081898081 & 09455553838
Email contact : rtimahilamanchup-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

Event details :
1-      11 AM - Introductory Speech & start of Signature Campaign
2-      11:58 AM to 12:00 Noon - Two minute quiscent prayer for solace of
deceased RTI activists’ & whistleblowers’ families
3-      12:01 PM – Blow the whistle program
4-      12:15 PM – Symbolic demonstration by ‘Monkeys and Juggler’ show
5-      03:00 PM – Concluding speech


On the same day,we are organizing a symbolic demonstration using
‘monkeys and Juggler’ against misrule of administrative and Police
officers of Uttar Pradesh who are behaving like those captive monkeys
and are acting only to the  words of their Political masters or the
ones who can manage them with easy-money.


We shall honor RTI martyrs and whistle-blowers on this day. To us, a
whistleblower is the one who informs the public or the concerned
authorities of suspected illegal activities. These illegal activities
could range from violation of simple law to fraud and corruption.
Here, We are using the term ‘whistleblower’ in a broader perspective
and don’t intend to limit it to the public servants or employees only.
Whosoever blows a whistle against the unlawful, unethical, unsocial
acts for the larger interest of the society , is a whistleblower to
us.


Through this mail, I am requesting you all to invite the family
members of all those whistleblowers who have sacrificed their lives
for various causes of the society including RTI and also the families
of all those who are faced with threats, intimidations or being
harassed  who are known to you.


In India there have been innumerable instances of whistle blowers
being killed. So it’s hardly a surprise that such few people come
forward with instances of wrong doing. Some 150 whistle blowers were
have been harassed or jailed while 20 have been killed. What’s
important to note is that whistle blowers exposing government
corruption face a particularly uphill task in India. Their cases often
wind slowly up the judicial chain and are only resolved decades later.
Memories of Manjunath Shanmugamand Satyendranath Dubey, Satish
Shetty,etc.  and status of their cases are known to all of us so we
shall raise a demand of fast track courts for cases concerning the
whistleblowers to ensure speedy disposal of claims.


We shall get a demand letter signed by participants of the event and
send it to the Government of India through Prime Minister of India to
formally declare July 30 as the "NATIONAL WHISTLE-BLOWER DAY" in
India.


Please try your level best to be a part of the event. If due to some
practical constraints, you are not able to come to Lucknow on
30-07-14, please support our cause and organize ‘Blow-the-Whistle’
Program at 12:00 Noon in broad daylight at some prominent place of
your city to spread the idea of ‘whistle-blowing’ and press with
Government of India for a formal declaration of ‘NATIONAL
WHISTLE-BLOWER DAY’. Please don’t forget to send a memorandum to PM of
India as well.


So,This 30th July, either be with us in Lucknow or wherever you are,
just blow- the- whistle at 12:00 Noon in broad daylight at some
prominent place of your city to help strengthen democratic setup in
India.

Please circulate this mail to your contacts.

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-Sincerely Yours,

Urvashi Sharma
Secretary - YAISHWARYAJ SEVA SANSTHAAN
101,Narayan Tower, Opposite F block Idgah
Rajajipuram,Lucknow-226017,Uttar Pradesh,India
Contact 9369613513
Right to Information Helpline 8081898081
Helpline Against Corruption   9455553838


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Ribandar – Goa – 403006


Mobile No: 9822684372


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SURESHAN P | 8 Jul 12:55 2014
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Re: [IAC#RG] Mafia Tatkal Reservation

We are not going  to get any better treatment from NDA as well. This is evident when we  analysed the budget speech of Sadanada Gowada ( sorry our MPS are wasting valuable time of a law making body by discussing over a proposal of a business entity, unpardonable nuisance ). Our railway Minister says that Indian railway will be made as largest net work."Mr gowda don't be so proud for that,as we are the second largest population", . Big population and large geographical area is nothing to do with Railways performance."Growing just like a"Kajoor" tree is not beneficial to people who seek shadow under a tree".
 For improving quality and standards you need to open the industry to public. let investors starts up their railway projects and compete among them self.I bet, in that scenario  public need not worry about covering distances they will get cheaper and better service. Better and cheaper services can be available only when competitive players are in place. No freebies or VIP treatment will save this sector. . Presently even last movement quatas are available for senior officers and VIPs. an MP can travel in first class compartment by free of cost all over the country where ever  our railway net work are in operation. Like wise MLAs are provided with free coupons across their state and they are not supposed to go for any advance booking. Certain number of births and seats are always kept open for these VIPS. In this scenario nothing will change with Indian Railway. It is better to re-play the budget speech every year at parliament. High speed trains are proposed much prior after all nothing new with NDA's much talked budget speech

 see this link

It is old Lalu Yadav proposal thereafter all the Railway Minster repeated it. 
God know how many such repetition we are going to see more.





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Prabhakar Rao | 8 Jul 15:29 2014
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Re: [IAC#RG] Mafia Tatkal Reservation

This is regarding Delhi metro. As users of Delhi metro we need basic discipline. Here is a system that is providing almost a flawless service. Clean coaches, good signboards, two minute service etc are really praiseworthy. Unfortunately we the users are slowly but surely spoiling this service by breaking queues, eating and drinking,littering, spitting, loud talking, sitting on the floor etc. Eating has become so common and there is complete breakdown of queue system. The tracks in many stations are strewn with bottles paper, and gutka packets. The metro should have zero tolerance for such acts. Since the system is good, we have no excuse to flout rules. Exemplary fines should be imposed so that such acts can be nipped in the bud. Otherwise the day is not far off where metro would become like the old DTC service. Can we force the Delhi metro authorities to make the service zero tolerant to such acts?   
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Sarbajit Roy | 23 Jun 22:31 2014
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[HumJanenge] WARNING: Re: Accoun ted for (Satyananda Mishra ji's a/c may be compromised)

It seems Mr. Satyananda Mishra's HOTMAIL account is either hacked or
is being spoofed.
RTI activists are requested to be cautious and not fall prey to scams.

Sarbajit Roy

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Raminder Singh | 23 Jun 22:01 2014
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Re: [HumJanenge] Re: PUBLIC GRIEVANCE: Fabricated Property declaration of IC Ms.Manjula Prasher

Dear Sarbjeet

My cousin has got back with the valuations for Vill:Kherki Majra in Gurgaon you asked for.

It is complete nonsense that this IC Manjula Prasher does not know the market value of her land.

On "circle rate" basis :
In 2013 was 1.25 CRORES/ACRE for agricultural land and Rs. 10,000/SQ.YD for residential
In 2014 is 1.40 CRORES/ACRE for agricultural land and Rs. 12,000/SQ.YD for residential

Typical WHITE component for this village is 25% for agricultural and 50% for residential to circle rate.

Current MARKET valuation for 15K17M (ie. 1.9 ACRE) is 11 CRORE for Agricultural land basis and 24 CRORE on Residential basis (2 large overlapping agricultural parcels of 30 acres and 42 acres were on offer at Rs. 6 CRORE / ACRE).

Raminder

On 6/23/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> To:
> The Chief Information Commissioner
> Central Information Commission at New Delhi
>
> cc: Ms. Manjula Prasher (Central Information Commissioner)
>
> Sir,
>
> I refer to my email dated 6-June-2014 (appended below).
>
> As I did not receive the mandatory acknowledgement of my public
> grievance within 5 days, and nor did Smt. Manjula Parasher update her
> property declaration "forthwith" as I requested, I am formally giving
> you notice that I have today lodged a complaint to the Central
> Vigilance Commission in this case on behalf of the India Against
> Corruption movement and its connected formations such as NCPRI,
> Humjanenge etc.
>
> We would accordingly request you to kindly ensure that no declared
> subscriber to India Against Corruption movement is compelled to appear
> before this Information Commissioner till the matter is finally
> decided.
>
> With best wishes
>
> Sarbajit Roy
> National Convenor
> India Against Corruption jan andolan
> B-59 Defence Colony
> New Delhi 110024
>
> On 6/6/14, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> To:
>> The Chief Information Commissioner
>> Central Information Commission at New Delhi
>>
>> cc: Ms. Manjula Prasher (Central Information Commissioner)
>>
>> Sir
>>
>> I refer to the property declaration of Ms. Manjula Prasher published on
>> CIC
>> website. A simple comparison between her aforesaid return and that filed
>> by, say,  IC Yashovardhan Azad shows that Ms. Prasher has absolute
>> contempt
>> for the citizens (and the RTI Act 2005) by such fabricated and evasive
>> property declarations.
>>
>> We would appreciate if you personally ensure that the said return is
>> uploaded in a proper manner forthwith, as the citizens are entitled to
>> know
>> the full and correct facts.
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>> With best wishes
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[HumJanenge] PDF COPY of secret IB NGO report "Impact of NGOs on Development"

Dear Editor saab

Please find attached TOP-SECRET copy of IB NGO report "Impact of NGOs on Development" dated 3-June-2014 authored by Jt Director IB S.A.Rizvi, aka Smt. Sarah Afzal Rizvi a Gujarat cadre IPS officer.

I take no responsibility for the authenticity of this document, which, however, is obtained from an exclusive mailing list of international police officers and intelligence community professionals.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Onkar <editoronkar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Can we get the full report of IB on NGOs?
Can anybody help?

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On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Roy Laifungbam <roy.laifungbam-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Thank you for your response, Sucheta Dalal

I would humbly like to inquire how you, and in what capacity, have ascertained and certified that all the contents of this "report" are accurate and authentic?

Roy Laifungbam


On 18 June 2014 22:49, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta-DOxPz0cjRqD8QAiQlki/IA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
An excellent response. Let me just correct one point -- the IB report is accurate and authentic! 

Sucheta Dalal
Managing Editor

On 18-Jun-2014, at 8:42 PM, willy <insafdelhi-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

I fully agree with Sucheta Dalal. NGOs hardly get funds in India unlike in the West. None for those who challenge the developmental model of growth and defend democratic rights. Once you associate with the anti POSCO movement or anti Nuclear power plants to oppose massive displacement of people + enormous ecological devastation, no corporate NGO or government department will fund you.

Regarding monitoring of foreign funded NGOs is concerned, most in this list are not at all aware of the facts:
1. The law regulating foreign funded NGOs was brought in by Indira Gandhi (Chidambaram etc. were nowhere). UPA2 amended the law making it more stringent.
2. Any NGO desiring to receive foreign funds has to be registered under FCRA - which is issued by the MHA after a IB (SIB- subsidiary investigation bureau) inquiry.
3. Every fcra registered NGO has to submit audited accounts every year, failing which their fcra gets canceled. Details of receipts and expenditure of NGOs are there on the MHA-fcra website.
4. the fcra dept in MHA regularly checks activities of NGOs through field reports from SIB. If necessary they visit or even demand information through a template-questionnaire.

It is still not known if the "IB leaked report" floated in the web via some media is an IB report. The Home Minister has denied of seeing any such report - which allegedly went directly to the PM.
Even if true, there is no real evidence of 'foreign hand' in the report, excepting funding. Many NGOs believe in an economically equitable, ecological sustainable and democratically just society. They believe in opposing projects devastating the people and ecology. Where is the foreign hand in this? The govt needs to give evidence of actions of NGOs being dictated by donors, not of those NGOs who get funds on the basis of their own ideological commitments.

The GDP-mania of the UPA, NDA and most parties will only ride roughshod over those criticising them. Can you imagine over 7000 people charged with sedition in Tamil Nadu for anti Koodankulam protests? Even the colonial empire did not need to unleash such state repression. If this mania continues, there will be no place for activists or even another Rabindranath Tagore to pen 'Muktdhara' and talk of the curse of dams - this will be a threat to India's Economic Security.

Willy - INSAF (www.insafindia.com)


On 18 June 2014 15:27, Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Sucheta's comments are so valid. Many a time people hesitate to appreciate work of NGO in India, leave alone donate.


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Sucheta Dalal <sucheta-DOxPz0cjRqD8QAiQlki/IA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Mr Purohit

What about the fact that Indians dont even donate? We hear so much talk about misuse of funds by NGOs, but nothing about beneficiaries NEVER ever contributing to keep NGOs going. India has no concept of reciprocity and help. That is why, even after years of work, NGOs will never become self sufficient. All over the world, recipients, especially in domains like ours where we deliver specific financial benefit -- helping people get lakhs or crores of rupees back for victims of misselling  etc, dont even contribute 1% back to the NGO as a donation. 

If this is the situation when we deal with middle class, rich doctors, consultants, CEOs of companies and celebrities -- how much worse would it be with NGOs that work with people who do not have funds. 

I think pointing fingers is easy …. Sometimes it would be good to hold a mirror to ourselves too. Nothing personal about this to anyone -- it is a general comment about our society, our attitude of entitlement and our inability to ever reciprocate even when we are beneficiaries. 

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On 15-Jun-2014, at 11:16 PM, rb purohit <rbpurohit4productivity-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Dear All
It is a common knowledge that NGOs misuse funds.
Foreign funds have to be used for specific purposes and a separate account has to be kept. But the same is manipulated. Local funding is also misappropriated. The Charity Commission takes years due to various reasons to correct violations and trustees make hay and make mockery of law.
It is common knowledge that. Culprits more than often go Scot free in this country due to our legal system.
God only is the last resort.
Let us change. Let us overhaul the system before it is too late.
Er Ratanlal Purohit
Consumer Activist

On 15 Jun 2014 22:26, "SD Windlesh" <sdwindlesh-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Time has come to make the working of NGOs receiving foreign aids transparent. They have misused the foreign funding to destabilise the Govt. and should not go scot free. Time has come to make them answerable for their misdeed to the public ban their furtherance in the field.
 


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On 14 June 2014 13:01, Gaur J K <gaurjk <at> hotmail.com> wrote:
14/6/14
 
Dear Mr. Venkataraman
 
The time has certainly come to closely monitor the activiries of N.GOs
Mr. Chidambaram had initiated the process for NGOs getting foreign funds.The present Govt. will now be expediting this process .
Thiere have been serious allegations of misuse of funds not only for conversion but anti-social activities, terrorism and other anti national activities.
Some NGOs are bound to protest but those who have nothing to hide should welcome if it leads to transparancy in their working.
Banning foreign remittances at present will not be feasible, but as the country becomes financially strong and can meet the needs of NGOs through Govt. aid and volutary contribution, it should be the ultimate goal.
The figure of 20 lakhs seems to be on the higher side. All NGOs have to be registered either with Charity Commissioners or as Registered Societies under the Societies Act. Aid from Govt. is difficult to get and not enough.It will be worthwhile to collect data Statewise and Subject-wise. You will be amazed to see heavy concentration in some states and very small nos in many states.
Getting them under RTI will be a tall order. Even PPP projects are not under RTI. But public opinion should be built for NGOs totally dependent on Govt. or foreign funding.
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Subject: [IAC#RG] WHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?


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                                                                                                                 WHY FOREIGN FUNDING FOR NGOs ?

 

While some NGOs are protesting about the accusation of intelligence bureau that some NGOs receive foreign funds which are misused ,  the question arises in one’s mind immediately  as to why these NGOs receive funds from abroad at all. Can they not function well with the money made available to them by the government (around Rs. 950 crores per annum)  and by many donors in India ?

 

While it is true that many NGOs are doing good work in  several areas, there is suspicion that quite a number of NGOs in the country view the NGO activities as “business opportunity” perhaps, this explains as to why there are around   20 lakh  number of NGOs in the country at present. ( One for every 600 citizens)  Several  promoters of NGOs who are not employed and who have no known source of income often are seen living in comfortable life style, with posh office facilities and  travelling frequently. Obviously, such promoters divert part of the donation made to the NGOs for their personal benefits. It is also believed that under the cover of NGO, the overseas funds are used for conversions and other purposes under the guidance of overseas masters.

 

NGOs have very crucial role to play, since large percentage of countrymen living  below poverty line and exploitation of the innocent  people and atrocities against women are increasing.. At the same time, it has to be ensured that bad elements and  motivated  campaigners do not hide their true colour in the name of NGOs.

 

Certainly, there is strong case that Government of India should closely monitor the activities of NGOs particularly those receiving funds from abroad  and NGOs should be brought under RTI Act.

 

It would be even appropriate that Government of India should ban the practice of NGOs receiving  funds from abroad  once for all.

 

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Re: [IAC#RG] SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE

The Judges are sitting as expert in every matter and in every subject. The Supreme Court it self is violating fundamental rights . The matters filed by party in person are heard lastly and matters are listed at the bottm. Right to file writ petition u/a 32 of constitution but party person is compelled to request to court to allow him to file writ petition This is deadly unconstitutional decision.
Supreme Court is protecting corrupt decision of imposing bar examination which is deadly unconstitutional but petition challanging bar exam is kept pending purposefully by Supreme Court and Supreme Court want to see Ad Gopal Surahmanyam as Judge of SCI the person who took unconstitutional decision and acted like dectator.
The High Court judges are not reading notes of arguments and hearing only 10 to 20 % arguments and pasing order in final hearing matter instead of passing judgment. The judges are not knowing that there is no limitation for filing writ petition.
How you can say SCI is crying



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There are well known cases,where judgement wasNEVER delivered by Supreme Court.
Do you believe?
Devi Lal oath of office in union cabinet.
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On Jun 25, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Gopalarao Rao <gvgrao33-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

It is said that justice delayed is justice denied. There is one case pending in the high court for the last 7 yrs and GOK when the judgement will be issued also whether it will be delivered during my life time ( I am now 81)
Some one from the high court may know my plight.

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On Jun 21, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice <at> gmail.com> wrote:

It is the courts and courts only which are responsible not only for the subversion of the justice delivery system but for the increasing lawlessness and crimes. Just ask how many times the apex court had entertained bail applications of Raja and Kanimozhi? And now they are shamelessly trying to pass on the buck to the Parliament. Why courts, even quasi judicial organisation have been following the bad example of courts and have been only draining the exchequer without delivering even 1 percent of what they are tasked to deliver. The district forum in Palakkad had been adjourning a consumer complaint of a complainant in the adjoining district involving a doctor for years on end. Almost after ten years I sought info on the status of the complaint. I got the info that it is pending. But at the next date for hearing it was dismissed! I complained to the minister for consumer affairs and the chief minister here. Nothing happened, except that in response to the complaint to the CM the President of the Forum said that the stipulation of three months for disposing a complaint is only a guideline and that was it! For details please read my blogs:

Obnoxious functioning of consumer fora/commissions- letter to minister (of 8/1/11) at 

Chief MInister's Contact Program-consumer fora at 


FRAUD IN GOVERNANCE AND REDRESSAL OF PUBLIC GRIEVANCES at

Eight years of right to information: Are those responsible for governance idiots or traitors? at

and more...

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SUPREME COURT CRYING FOR JUSTICE


Appex Court appeals to the Parliament for legislating appropriate laws and to the Government for rationalising decision making process for stemming vicious and frivolous cases and appeals being filed. Read the last paras in the Surbroto Roy Sahara's recent Supreme Court Judgement.


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“REPORTABLE”

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF INDIA

CRIMINAL ORIGINAL JURISDICTION

WRIT PETITION (CRIMINAL) NO. 57 OF 2014


Subrata Roy Sahara …. Petitioner

versus

Union of India and others …. Respondents


J U D G M E N T

Jagdish Singh Khehar, J.



149. A lot of these hearings consumed this Court’s full working day. Hearing of the main case, consumed one full part, of the entire summer vacation (of the Supreme Court) of the year 2012. For the various orders passed by us, including the order dated 31.8.2012 (running into 269 printed pages) and the present order (running into 205 printed pages), substantial Judge hours were consumed. In this country, judicial orders are prepared, beyond Court hours, or on non-working days. It is apparent, that not a hundred, but hundreds of Judge hours, came to be spent in the instant single Sahara Group litigation, just at the hands of the Supreme Court. This abuse of the judicial process, needs to be remedied. We are, therefore of the considered view, that the legislature needs to give a thought, to a very serious malady, which has made strong inroads into the Indian judicial system.

150. The Indian judicial system is grossly afflicted, with frivolous litigation. Ways and means need to be evolved, to deter litigants from their compulsive obsession, towards senseless and ill-considered claims. One needs to keep in mind, that in the process of litigation, there is an innocent sufferer on the other side, of every irresponsible and senseless claim. He suffers long drawn anxious periods of nervousness and restlessness, whilst the litigation is pending, without any fault on his part. He pays for the litigation, from out of his savings (or out of his borrowings), worrying that the other side may trick him into defeat, for no fault of his. He spends invaluable time briefing counsel and preparing them for his claim. Time which he should have spent at work, or with his family, is lost, for no fault of his. Should a litigant not be compensated for, what he has lost, for no fault? The suggestion to the legislature is, that a litigant who has succeeded, must be compensated by the one, who has lost. The suggestion to the legislature is to formulate a mechanism, that anyone who initiates and continues a litigation senselessly, pays for the same. It is suggested that the legislature should consider the introduction of a “Code of Compulsory Costs”.

151. We should not be taken to have suggested, that the cost of litigation should be enhanced. It is not our suggestion, that Court fee or other litigation related costs, should be raised. Access to justice and related costs, should be as free and as low, as possible. What is sought to be redressed is a habituation, to press illegitimate claims. This practice and pattern is so rampant, that in most cases, disputes which ought to have been settled in no time at all, before the first Court of incidence, are prolonged endlessly, for years and years, and from Court to Court, upto the highest Court.

152. This abuse of the judicial process is not limited to any particular class of litigants. The State and its agencies litigate endlessly upto the highest Court, just because of the lack of responsibility, to take decisions. So much so, that we have started to entertain the impression, that all administrative and executive decision making, are being left to Courts, just for that reason. In private litigation as well, the concerned litigant would continue to approach the higher Court, despite the fact that he had lost in every Court hitherto before. The effort is not to discourage a litigant, in whose perception, his cause is fair and legitimate. The effort is only to introduce consequences, if the litigant’s perception was incorrect, and if his cause is found to be, not fair and legitimate, he must pay for the same. In the present setting of the adjudicatory process, a litigant, no matter how irresponsible he is, suffers no consequences. Every litigant, therefore likes to take a chance, even when counsel’s advice is otherwise.

153. Does the concerned litigant realize, that the litigant on the other side has had to defend himself, from Court to Court, and has had to incur expenses towards such defence? And there are some litigants who continue to pursue senseless and ill-considered claims, to somehow or the other, defeat the process of law. The present case, is a classic illustration of what we wish to express. Herein the regulating authority has had to suffer litigation from Court to Court, incurring public expense in its defence, against frivolous litigation. Every order was consistently and systematically disobeyed. Every order passed by the SEBI was assailed before the next higher authority, and then before this Court. Even though High Courts have no jurisdiction, in respect of issues regulated by the SEBI Act, some matters were taken to the High Court of Judicature at Allahabad (before its Lucknow Bench). Every such endeavour resulted in failure, and was also sometimes, accompanied with strictures. Even after the matter had concluded, after the controversy had attained finality, the judicial process is still being abused, for close to two years. A conscious effort on the part of the legislature in this behalf, would serve several purposes. It would, besides everything else, reduce frivolous litigation. When the litigating party understands, that it would have to compensate the party which succeeds, unnecessary litigation will be substantially reduced. At the end of the day, Court time lost is a direct loss to the nation. It is about time, that the legislature should evolve ways and means to curtail this unmindful activity. We are sure, that an eventual determination, one way or the other, would be in the best interest of this country, as also, its countrymen.

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