AK Bhattacharyya | 1 Mar 06:55 2012
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Re: Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE

Please be away from pseudo secularists and work with what your consciousness demands.
Humanity should get preference over all religious instructions Some people are valued more for such deeds..

With kind regards



A.K.BHATTACHARYYA

F.I.StructE (UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT
H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127

--- On Sun, 2/26/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: FINDING SUBSTITUTE FOR THE TERM,'SECULAR' STATE
To: humjanenge-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Date: Sunday, February 26, 2012, 11:43 PM

Dear Col Singh

I freely admit that you have raised important issues, which is why
your messages are allowed. It is equally true that we may not be on
the same frequency as presently I am also experiencing rajasik gunas..
My family is heavily from Army background (although to be fair my
marriage was conducted by an Admiral and my wife was selected by an
AVM) with very strong roots to Hindutva tradition. In fact the term
"Hindutva" was originated / coined by persons from my family.
Particularly I would direct you to read the work by Raj Narain Bose
(Grand father of Indian Nationalism) titled as "Superiority of
Hinduism over all other religions" which was based on views of one of
my ancestors. Incidentally, Mr Bose was maternal grandfather of Sri
Aurobindo.. I am enclosing a PDF summary dated 1882 for your
reference..

Actually I propose that the term "Hindutva" (as it OUGHT to be
understood but isn't) is substituted for "secularism" in the Indian
Constitution.

Sarbajit

On 2/26/12, Col Thakur Singh <thakursinghk-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Dear Mr sarbajit,
>
> I respect all  the good  values/ vitues; of whichever religion,
> country/village/ people these may be !  immaterial.
> I am beyond religion ie; follow spiritualism .
>
> Vivekananda said ; ' It is not in our hands to be born out of religion,
> but  we must die out of religion , meaning thereby  -go beyond  religion
>
> come along i will take u the land of God and not the mullahs;  - Mr
>  dictator/mderator sahab - it is in your hands to delete my post but not
> creation /getting me  united  in this group - learn to be tolerate enough
> and keep your communication channels open , dont shut it down that being
> easy and any body can do it having  inflated  ego .
>
> you have not been able to catch what i have said  above or what i meant ,
> we not being at the same frequency, if yes tell me what it is   OK?
>
> Regards
>
> col thakur singh
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:30 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Col Singh
>>
>> As a moderator of this list I was considering deleting your post.
>> However, you have raised very important (NON-RTI) issues.
>>
>> India is a secular state. If you dont like the term "secular" please
>> go and live in Pakistan / Iran where they have all the Sanskar you
>> need based on values and traditions of MULLAHS / MAULVIS /
>> AYATOLLAHS.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Feb 26, 9:40 pm, Col Thakur Singh <thakursin...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > *Dear All,*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *could you enlighten me , what is the substitute for the term 'secular'
>> > state, wherein  we should be able to re-establish our ethos
>> > ,culture, trad-ions and respect the values our RISHI'S , YOGIS'  ,GURUS'
>> > upheld to enable our present and future generations to inculcate same to
>> > have SATVIK  and meaningful LIFE.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *To follow the modern education system yet with our own culture having
>> > respect for our values in society.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *What is the particular term  , a substitute for the term  ,'SECULAR '
>> > in
>> > our constitution following which it will be obligatory for us all to
>> follow
>> > our culture ,'SANSKAR' so enrich which will remove our most of
>> > the problems like greed, hoarding, amassing wealth through illegal means
>> > etc.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Your comments please,.*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *regards *
>> > *
>> > *
>> > *Col thakur Singh*
>> > *9873379995*
>
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    sarbajit roy | 1 Mar 16:55 2012
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    IESM's RTI "tent pegs" "C-I-C's retirement home stolen from war widows

    http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_presidents-4498-sq-ft-retirement-home-is-spread-over-2-lakh-sq-ft_1657085
    
    C-I-C == Commander In Chief
    
    President’s 4,498 sq ft retirement home is spread over 2 lakh sq ft
    
    Although the former president of India is entitled to live in a house
    admeasuring not more than 4,498 sq ft, land admeasuring 2,61,000 sq ft
    has been allotted for the post-retirement accommodation in Khadki of
    president Pratibha Patil.
    
    Justice for Jawans (JFJ) Right to Information (RTI) activist Anup
    Awasthi and Indian Ex-servicemen Movement (IESM) found the facts
    through an RTI query.
    
    According to the reply to the RTI requisition sent to the President of
    India Office, the President’s Emoluments and Pension Act, 1951, and
    the rules framed there under President’s Pension Rule, 1962, govern
    these matters.
    
    As per the rules, “A place where Government owned accommodation is
    allotted to a retired President, the size of the residence shall be
    comparable to a residence allotted to a Minister in the Union Council
    of Ministers and if the highest type of Government residence available
    at a particular place is less in size than a residence allotted to a
    Minister in the Union Council of Ministers, the highest type of
    accommodation available at that place shall be allotted to the ex-
    President. At present, a minister is entitled to a plinth area of the
    bungalow as 4498 sq ft.”
    
    The RTI reply further states, “where suitable Government residence is
    not available for allotment to a retired President, the size of the
    residence to be taken on lease to be provided to a retired President
    shall have a living area not exceeding 2,000 sq ft.”
    
    Col (retd) Suresh Patil of JFJ had earlier written a letter on
    September 14 to the president inquiring about the possession of the
    property in Khadki to which the reply received was that the land is on
    lease and will remain the property of Defence Estates.
    
    According to the reply sent by the president’s secretariat, “The old
    grant property is a defence land given on lease and the lease has
    expired. It was resumed by the defence estate officer after following
    the due procedure for use of residential premises for the president on
    her retirement as per the entitlement of a former president of India.”
    
    Patil and his associates objected to even the ongoing construction on
    the land. “Why are new constructions carried out in the land when
    there is adequate government accommodation already available in the
    cantonments? These constructions are illegal which has also resulted
    to the felling of trees in the area without the permission of the
    forest department,” Awasthi said.
    
    IESM, Maharashtra convenor Ravindra Pathak said that this land should
    have been allotted to the war widows and to build an old age home.
    
    
    sarbajit roy | 1 Mar 16:59 2012
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    Space department denies information to Nair

    Bangalore
    Space department denies information to Nair
    
    The Department of Space (DoS) has declined to provide key documents
    sought by former Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) chairman G
    Madhavan Nair to know the basis on which the government debarred him
    and three other retired space scientists in January from holding
    official
    posts.
    
    "Taking shelter under a specific clause of the Right to Information
    (RTI) Act, the DoS withheld vital information on the reports of the
    two committees that probed the Antrix-Devas deal and resulted in
    action against me and three other colleagues," a disappointed Nair
    said.
    
    A week after the government blacklisted the four noted scientists,
    Nair filed an application under the RTI Act, 2005 with the DoS and
    ISRO, seeking details of the high level team that recommended action
    against him and three other technocrats.
    
    "Though it is mandatory under the RTI Act to furnish documents I have
    asked for within 30 days of my application, I received a reply from
    DoS' RTI officer Tuesday repeating all that is already in the public
    domain but not the specific information, including documents and
    notings pertaining to the recommendation for action against us," Nair
    asserted.
    
    The three other blacklisted scientists are former scientific secretary
    A Bhaskarnarayana, ISRO's former satellite centre director KN Shankara
    and former Antrix Corporation executive director KR Sridharamurthi.
    
    Expressing inability to share the specific information, the official
    wrote to Nair that as per the rule 8(1)(H) of the RTI Act, he could
    not furnish the relevant documents as they pertain to investigation
    and prosecution of the offenders.
    
    "It is unfortunate that I have been denied my legitimate right to know
    what offence I had committed for such an action. Instead of responding
    to my specific queries on the probe reports and reasons for annulling
    the Devas contract, I have been given the terms of reference under
    which the two committees investigated the deal and that their reports
    were on the official websites for reference," Nair pointed out.
    
    Without naming the DoS secretary (K. Radhakrishnan), who is also
    chairman of the state-run ISRO and secretary of the Space Commission,
    Nair said under the guise of a particular clause and section, the
    department was making mockery of the RTI Act as its response showed
    someone was hiding facts, which would otherwise expose him.
    
    "The DoS has refused to divulge information on the issues pertaining
    to the Devas agreement, approval cycles and correspondence that took
    place among the concerned. It's an act of cowardice on the part of the
    department to suppress facts and deny justice to a former official who
    also held the same post and worked in the organisation for over four
    decades," Nair observed.
    
    Asked on his next move to seek justice, Nair said he would consult
    legal experts before approaching the chief information commissioner
    for evidence, including specific documents, file notings and names of
    those who took arbitrary decisions to cancel the Devas deal and accuse
    them of wrong doing.
    
    "Though I have better things to do, I will spare time to take the
    matter to logical conclusion as we have been held guilty without being
    heard to defend or explain our role in the spectrum deal," Nair added.
    
    The 68-year rocket scientist is away at Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala
    till Sunday and plans to take up the legal battle on return to the
    city on Monday.
    
    
    sarbajit roy | 1 Mar 17:02 2012
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    VICTORY: Lame excuses wont wash in RTI : P&H HC

    CHANDIGARH: Punjab and Haryana high court has made it clear that
    excuses like "shortage of staff", "extra work" cannot be accepted as
    grounds for declining information under RTI Act.
    
    While pronouncing the order, Justice Augustine George Masih observed,
    "If such excuses are accepted, the RTI Act would become redundant and
    ineffective, and would frustrate the objective for which it has been
    enacted. Such internal administrative reasons cannot be treated as a
    defense for not supplying information."
    
    The ruling has come in the wake of a writ petition filed against an
    order passed by the state information commission (SIC), Punjab, on
    June 14, 2010. SIC had imposed a penalty of Rs 25,000 against the
    state public information officer of Ludhiana Improvement Trust, Lal
    Singh Tiwana, for a delay of more than five months in supplying
    information to RTI applicant Gurwinderjeet Singh from Ludhiana.
    
    Justice Masih rejected all reasons put forth by Tiwana and concurred
    with those given by SIC for imposing a penalty on the information
    officer for delay in information to the complainant.
    
    In his petition filed against the SIC orders, Tiwana had stated that
    Ludhiana Improvement Trust was functioning with only 40% of sanctioned
    staff strength and there was a heavy rush of public for registration
    of plots on the basis of original price under a scheme which was
    expiring. He had argued that additional work of census was being done
    by the staff, which resulted into delay in supplying information to
    the complainant.
    
    Justice Masih, however, accepted the petitioner's contention, that
    although the RTI application was received in January 2010, the
    petitioner-information officer had joined the trust on transfer on May
    11, 2010, and therefore, was not responsible for the delay on the part
    of his predecessor. Accordingly, Justice Masih held that the
    petitioner-information officer has to be imposed a penalty at the rate
    of Rs 250 per day for a period of 75 days, amounting to Rs 18,750.
    
    
    Narayan Varma | 1 Mar 23:30 2012
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    Re: VICTORY: Lame excuses wont wash in RTI : P&H HC

    Is it possible to get full copy of this Order or pl provide link to get it.
    Thanks ,
    N.Varma

    On 1 March 2012 21:32, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
    CHANDIGARH: Punjab and Haryana high court has made it clear that
    excuses like "shortage of staff", "extra work" cannot be accepted as
    grounds for declining information under RTI Act.

    While pronouncing the order, Justice Augustine George Masih observed,
    "If such excuses are accepted, the RTI Act would become redundant and
    ineffective, and would frustrate the objective for which it has been
    enacted. Such internal administrative reasons cannot be treated as a
    defense for not supplying information."

    The ruling has come in the wake of a writ petition filed against an
    order passed by the state information commission (SIC), Punjab, on
    June 14, 2010. SIC had imposed a penalty of Rs 25,000 against the
    state public information officer of Ludhiana Improvement Trust, Lal
    Singh Tiwana, for a delay of more than five months in supplying
    information to RTI applicant Gurwinderjeet Singh from Ludhiana.

    Justice Masih rejected all reasons put forth by Tiwana and concurred
    with those given by SIC for imposing a penalty on the information
    officer for delay in information to the complainant.

    In his petition filed against the SIC orders, Tiwana had stated that
    Ludhiana Improvement Trust was functioning with only 40% of sanctioned
    staff strength and there was a heavy rush of public for registration
    of plots on the basis of original price under a scheme which was
    expiring. He had argued that additional work of census was being done
    by the staff, which resulted into delay in supplying information to
    the complainant.

    Justice Masih, however, accepted the petitioner's contention, that
    although the RTI application was received in January 2010, the
    petitioner-information officer had joined the trust on transfer on May
    11, 2010, and therefore, was not responsible for the delay on the part
    of his predecessor. Accordingly, Justice Masih held that the
    petitioner-information officer has to be imposed a penalty at the rate
    of Rs 250 per day for a period of 75 days, amounting to Rs 18,750.



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    Mumbai 400 021
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    Sarbajit Roy | 2 Mar 03:30 2012
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    CIC Press release: 3 new ICs administered oath of office on 01.03.2012

    No. of ICs has gone up to 9 today.
    
    
    Vijendra Singh | 2 Mar 15:49 2012
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    Re: Former IB chief among 3 new Information Commissioners at CIC

    Selection comittee did not perform its duties honestly at all. they were dutiful to see that  the govt deptts under the  3 selected govt officers/ I.Cs  never denied  the asked rti information  contrary to rti spirit.

    If their ministry / deptt /institution  ever denied the information to rti applicants disrespecting the RTI spirit ; those highest officers  are also responsible for the misdeeds of info refusals  absurdly by their junior officers. So such irresponsible officers must never be selected for pious post of the Info Commissioners.
    I am quite sure that the dishonest leaders' committee of manmohansingh, chidambaram, sushmaswaraj  never put this test on the candidates; and they absurdly ,illegally , immorally selected the wrongdoers.
    I know well ; and whole the world know well that the  officers of  the  3 deptts  under the 3 selected officers/ IC candidates   refused  several times  to provide the bonafide , discloseable  information  to the RTI seekers absurdly killing the RTI laws and spirit.
    Therefore the selection committee has committed sin/ crime knowingly , and conspiringly so that the information can be absurdly, forcibly denied to the rti seekers.
    so they have snatched the  FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO SPEECH from the citizens.  Sushmaswaraj has  done more wrong because she was not known as dishonest. But now it is evident that not even a single leader in this country is honest.
    God save my India.
    vijendra singh ,meerut

    On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54 <at> yahoo.co.in> wrote:
     A similar Article But offcourse High lighting Mr Seth Being From Bangalore (or is Residing ?) is Appearing in Todays Deccan Herald.
     Since I Come across Several RTI requests being turned down by PIOs in Banks Mostly on Very Silly issues or Requests which never fall under the Fiduciary Capacity Shelter Clause , It would be a Good Proposition to Keenly Observe this Person if Appointed .
    I also Understand by Documents Supplied by CIC itself that IBA which is just an Association has issued letters of caution/instructions to CEO's of all Public Sector Banks of What information should be Parted or not. This Association is not a Public authority
    Mr Seth was One of the Managing committee member at that time .
    For Breveity i cite one Sample refusal under Fiduciary clause being " the Inward register of RTI Appln's  includes the details of the applications which were submitted by other parties to the CPIO under the act (meaning RTI act)  as this information relates to personal information the disclosure of which has no relationship to any public activity or interest or disclosure of such information would cause unwarrented invasion of the privacy of any individiual  as such information sought cannot be provided
    Freinds can offer thier Comments
    N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.


    --- On Sat, 25/2/12, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

    > From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb <at> gmail.com>
    > Subject: [HumJanenge] Former IB chief among 3 new Information Commissioners at CIC
    > To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge <at> googlegroups.com>
    > Date: Saturday, 25 February, 2012, 10:43 PM
    > http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/former-ib-chief-among-3-new-information-commissioners-at-cic/articleshow/12034174.cms
    >
    > NEW DELHI: The government has shortlisted a former chief of
    > Intelligence Bureau, a banker and a former bureaucrat as
    > three new
    > Information Commissioners at the transparency panel CIC.
    >
    > Former IB Chief Rajiv Mathur, former Environment Secretary
    > Vijai
    > Sharma and Syndicate Bank Chairman and Managing Director
    > Basant Seth
    > have been shortlisted as new faces at the Central
    > Information
    > Commission which is overburdened with over 20,000 pending
    > appeals
    > under the Right to Information Act, official sources said.
    >
    > A panel headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh which
    > included Law
    > Minister Salman Khurshid and Leader of Opposition Sushma
    > Swaraj
    > shortlisted the names of these people recently, they said.
    >
    > According to the RTI Act, the complete strength of the
    > transparency
    > panel is a Chief Information Commissioner and 10 Central
    > Information
    > Commissioners. As of now there are just five Information
    > Commissioners
    > leaving a shortage of five.
    >
    > A formal announcement on the appointment would be made
    > shortly, they
    > said.
    >
    > Mathur, a 1972 batch IPS officer of Uttar Pradesh cadre, has
    > served IB
    > for nearly three decades including 15 years in Washington.
    > He took
    > over the reigns of the agency in January 2009, before
    > retiring on
    > December 31, 2010.
    >
    > Sharma, a 1974 batch IAS officer, from Uttar Pradesh cadre,
    > was
    > secretary in Union Environment Ministry before his
    > superannuation in
    > December 2010.
    >
    > He held number of positions in the state including State
    > Housing
    > Secretary, State Environment Secretary and Chairman of State
    > Pollution
    > Control Board among others.
    >
    > Seth who is the CMD of Syndicate Bank, Bangalore has held
    > senior
    > positions in Small Industries Development Bank and Bank of
    > India.
    >



    --
    Vijendra Singh
    E-19, Janakpuri,
    Ajanta Colony, garh road,
    Meerut-250004
    UP
    deodutta rajwade | 2 Mar 17:57 2012
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    Re: Former IB chief among 3 new Information Commissioners at CIC

    Are outstanding defence service officers qualified for SUCH posts?

    From: Vijendra Singh <vijendra5558 <at> gmail.com>
    To: humjanenge <at> googlegroups.com
    Cc: Karnataka Intiative RTI <thekirti-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org>; RTI Group <KRTIF-hHKSG33TihhbjbujkaE4pw@public.gmane.org>
    Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 8:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Former IB chief among 3 new Information Commissioners at CIC

    Selection comittee did not perform its duties honestly at all. they were dutiful to see that  the govt deptts under the  3 selected govt officers/ I.Cs  never denied  the asked rti information  contrary to rti spirit.
    If their ministry / deptt /institution  ever denied the information to rti applicants disrespecting the RTI spirit ; those highest officers  are also responsible for the misdeeds of info refusals  absurdly by their junior officers. So such irresponsible officers must never be selected for pious post of the Info Commissioners.
    I am quite sure that the dishonest leaders' committee of manmohansingh, chidambaram, sushmaswaraj  never put this test on the candidates; and they absurdly ,illegally , immorally selected the wrongdoers.
    I know well ; and whole the world know well that the  officers of  the  3 deptts  under the 3 selected officers/ IC candidates   refused  several times  to provide the bonafide , discloseable  information  to the RTI seekers absurdly killing the RTI laws and spirit.
    Therefore the selection committee has committed sin/ crime knowingly , and conspiringly so that the information can be absurdly, forcibly denied to the rti seekers.
    so they have snatched the  FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO SPEECH from the citizens.  Sushmaswaraj has  done more wrong because she was not known as dishonest. But now it is evident that not even a single leader in this country is honest.
    God save my India.
    vijendra singh ,meerut

    On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54-/E1597aS9LQxFYw1CcD5bw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
     A similar Article But offcourse High lighting Mr Seth Being From Bangalore (or is Residing ?) is Appearing in Todays Deccan Herald.
     Since I Come across Several RTI requests being turned down by PIOs in Banks Mostly on Very Silly issues or Requests which never fall under the Fiduciary Capacity Shelter Clause , It would be a Good Proposition to Keenly Observe this Person if Appointed .
    I also Understand by Documents Supplied by CIC itself that IBA which is just an Association has issued letters of caution/instructions to CEO's of all Public Sector Banks of What information should be Parted or not. This Association is not a Public authority
    Mr Seth was One of the Managing committee member at that time .
    For Breveity i cite one Sample refusal under Fiduciary clause being " the Inward register of RTI Appln's  includes the details of the applications which were submitted by other parties to the CPIO under the act (meaning RTI act)  as this information relates to personal information the disclosure of which has no relationship to any public activity or interest or disclosure of such information would cause unwarrented invasion of the privacy of any individiual  as such information sought cannot be provided
    Freinds can offer thier Comments
    N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.


    --- On Sat, 25/2/12, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

    > From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
    > Subject: [HumJanenge] Former IB chief among 3 new Information Commissioners at CIC
    > To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
    > Date: Saturday, 25 February, 2012, 10:43 PM
    > http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/former-ib-chief-among-3-new-information-commissioners-at-cic/articleshow/12034174.cms
    >
    > NEW DELHI: The government has shortlisted a former chief of
    > Intelligence Bureau, a banker and a former bureaucrat as
    > three new
    > Information Commissioners at the transparency panel CIC.
    >
    > Former IB Chief Rajiv Mathur, former Environment Secretary
    > Vijai
    > Sharma and Syndicate Bank Chairman and Managing Director
    > Basant Seth
    > have been shortlisted as new faces at the Central
    > Information
    > Commission which is overburdened with over 20,000 pending
    > appeals
    > under the Right to Information Act, official sources said.
    >
    > A panel headed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh which
    > included Law
    > Minister Salman Khurshid and Leader of Opposition Sushma
    > Swaraj
    > shortlisted the names of these people recently, they said.
    >
    > According to the RTI Act, the complete strength of the
    > transparency
    > panel is a Chief Information Commissioner and 10 Central
    > Information
    > Commissioners. As of now there are just five Information
    > Commissioners
    > leaving a shortage of five.
    >
    > A formal announcement on the appointment would be made
    > shortly, they
    > said.
    >
    > Mathur, a 1972 batch IPS officer of Uttar Pradesh cadre, has
    > served IB
    > for nearly three decades including 15 years in Washington.
    > He took
    > over the reigns of the agency in January 2009, before
    > retiring on
    > December 31, 2010.
    >
    > Sharma, a 1974 batch IAS officer, from Uttar Pradesh cadre,
    > was
    > secretary in Union Environment Ministry before his
    > superannuation in
    > December 2010.
    >
    > He held number of positions in the state including State
    > Housing
    > Secretary, State Environment Secretary and Chairman of State
    > Pollution
    > Control Board among others.
    >
    > Seth who is the CMD of Syndicate Bank, Bangalore has held
    > senior
    > positions in Small Industries Development Bank and Bank of
    > India.
    >



    --
    Vijendra Singh
    E-19, Janakpuri,
    Ajanta Colony, garh road,
    Meerut-250004
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    Sarbajit Roy | 2 Mar 18:14 2012
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    Re: No delay at CIC. 45 days to hearing/disposal.

    Dear Nidhi (and group)
    
    After my email post to the HJ list specifying that IC(AD) was #2
    defaulter,  the CIC has been stung into action. IC(AD)'s registry has
    published their pending cases on CIC's website. She claims to have
    only 220 Appeals and 150 Complaints pending (ie. about half of what
    .IC(SG)'s outstanding is).
    
    So it is quite obvious that of the known pendency of the CIC (and
    which we must assume to be true), IC-SG is the worst offender in terms
    of pendency at around 850 cases, and even assuming that teh remaining
    5 ICs had an average of 400 cases each (avg. of CIC + AD) then this
    works out to 2,000 cases which is almost exactly equal to the info
    given to me of "around 2,700" pending cases only.
    
    Satyanand's Mishra's own figures damn him. WHY THEN DO WE NEED THESE 3
    EXTRA ICs ? Is it because of all those paid holidays they now get for
    study tours / junkets to New Zealand and Scandanavia where a certain
    MNC financed NGO is hosting them. ??
    
    Sarbajit
    
    Sarbajit
    
    On 2/27/12, Nidhi Sharma <nidhi2479@...> wrote:
    > Dear Sarbajit
    >
    > I met Mr Satyanand Mishra last week. He stands by the 20,000+ figure. He
    > says that is the real pendency with CIC. He has now asked all registries
    > (ICs) to manually count every case pending with them and file a return by
    > the end of this week so that he can actually react to the media reports.
    >
    > nidhi
    >
    
    

    Gmane