the UPA govt should be thrown out of power, we have elected them, now they misuse their powers, where is the transperency and accountability?
in a world biggest democratic country, why should they not disclose their assests, why are they afraid to do so, bada golmal hai
it could open a can of worms if they do so, if any political party makes
its the political agendy/manisfesto that they will ammend laws to make theses top bureaucrats to declare their assets and also impose penalities on PIO's for not giving information, i'm sure they will win the elections,
but no party will do so, everyone is equal before the eyes of the Law.
if not the law is an ass
L.Almeida
--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd <at> yahoo.com>
> Subject: [rti_india] PMO won’t reveal ministers’ assets - Judges not bound to disclose their wealth: CJI - CIC members not willing to disclose assets in public
> To: "Smt Pratibha Patil Hon'ble President of India" <presidentofindia <at> rb.nic.in>
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> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:01 AM
> Smt Pratibha Patil, Hon'ble President of India, New
> Delhi
> Respected Madam,
> Your kind attention is invited to the following headlines
> from the media
> news.
>
> - PMO won't reveal ministers' assets.
> - Judges not bound to disclose their wealth: CJI.
> - CIC members not willing to disclose assets in public :
> CIC.
>
> What these news show is that neither political leaders nor
> judiciary nor
> even the apex transparency body is prepared to open up and
> declare as to how
> much wealth they have collected in an illegal manner or
> otherwise.
> In the light of the above, Babubhai - a common man of India
> - would like to
> know whether there is any Govt authority in this great
> country that is in
> favour of transparency? Babubhai would like to salute for
> his / her courage
> of conviction.
> It may kindly be appreciated that the citizens of India are
> desperately
> craving for transparency in public administration. There
> has been undue
> secrecy in the administration in the garb of
> confidentiality on various
> pretexts and under the Official Secrets Act 1923 - a legacy
> of the
> Britishers.
> The entire world is greatly moving towards the transparency
> in
> administration and these lame excuses for non-disclosure
> cannot have the
> place in India. We need to seriously take cognizance of the
> aspirations of
> the citizens of India.
> Let the long overdue legitimate wish of the people for
> transparency be
> fulfilled forthwith. All other virtues shall follow this
> single one and the
> masses shall prosper.
> Submitted for kind intervention in larger public interest
> on behalf of the
> illiterate & ill-informed crores o suffering citizens
> of India whose voice
> never reaches the top echelons.
> With warm regards,
>
> --
> Babubhai Vaghela
> 202, Sarap, Opp Navjivan Press,
> Off Ashram Road, Ahmedabad - 380 014
> M - 94276 08632
> (Administrator - Google Group - Right to Information Act
> 2005)
> http://groups.google.com/group/Right-to-Information-Act-2005?hl=en&pli=1
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> TOI Mumbai 2nd February 2009 Front PagePMO won't
> reveal ministers'
> assets TIMES
> NEWS NETWORK
>
> New Delhi:At a time when pressure is mounting on the
> judiciary to disclose
> its assets, the executive wing of the government has come
> in the limelight
> for its reluctant commitment towards transparency.
> In a decision that could have far-reaching impact on
> administrative
> accountability, the Prime Minister's Office, widely
> seen as leading the
> government towards transparency, has decided to withhold
> information related
> to assets of ministers and their relatives.
> Responding to a query by applicant Subhash Chandra
> Agrawal, the PMO
> termed the information as exempt under clauses 8(1)(e) and
> 8(1)(j) which
> relate to immunity granted to "documents of fiduciary
> relationship'' and
> "cabinet documents'' under the RTI Act.
> Agrawal has now filed an appeal with
> the Central Information Commission.
> Significantly, the PMO had initially agreed to part
> with the
> information. It had on May 19, 2008, made all the details
> available to the
> cabinet secretariat to deal with similar RTI applications
> in future. In a
> curious U-turn on December 17, 2008, the PMO held that
> details sought by the
> applicant were exempt from disclosure. *PMO's U-turn
> stumps applicant *
> New Delhi: The PMO, which had first agreed to share the
> information on
> assets of ministers and their relatives to a RTI applicant,
> has now decided
> to exempt it from the RTI Act. This was conveyed to
> applicant Subash Chandra
> Agrawal first on December 17, 2008, and again on January
> 27. It was last
> year that Agrawal had filed the RTI application seeking the
> details from the
> cabinet secretariat. The letter was forwarded to the PMO.
> In his appeal,
> Agrawal points to the PMO's reversal of stance.
> "The PMO was ready to
> divulge...but there has been a change in
> decision.'' TNN
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: vaghelabd <vaghelabd <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:33 AM
> Subject: CIC members not willing to disclose assets in
> public - I would like
> to know it.
> To: Wajahat Habibullah CIC <whabibullah <at> nic.in>
> Cc: Himanshi.Dhawan <at> timesgroup.com,
> corporateaffairs <at> sandesh.com,
> ammirrorfeedback <at> gmail.com, letters <at> thehindu.co.in,
> letters.editor <at> intoday.com, letters <at> washpost.com,
> letters <at> nytimes.com,
> letters <at> business-standard.com, letters <at> hindustantimes.com,
> letters <at> latimes.com, NDTV <feedback <at> ndtv.com>, Help
> Hindustan Times <
> feedback <at> hindustantimes.com>, feedback <at> livemint.com,
> feedback <at> business-standard.com, blfeedback <at> thehindu.co.in,
> feedback <at> moneycontrol.com, NEWS WIRE 18
> <feedback <at> newswire18.com>, "hemali.
> chhapia" <Hemali.Chhapia <at> timesgroup.com>,
> Pradeep Thakur <
> Pradeep.Thakur <at> timesgroup.com>,
> Satya.prakash <at> hindustantimes.com,
> right-to-information-act-2005 <
> Right-to-Information-Act-2005 <at> googlegroups.com>,
> Pratyanshu Sinha CVC New
> Delhi <cvc-R9E+szwozl8@public.gmane.org>, "Smt. Rajni Razdan Secretary
> AR PG&P" <
> rajni.razdan <at> nic.in>, Shri A N Tiwari
> <an.tiwari <at> nic.in>, "Mrs. Annapurna
> Dixit Information Commissioner" <adixit-R9E+szwozl8@public.gmane.org>,
> "Shri D.C. Singh" <
> dc.singh <at> nic.in>, Shri G Subramanian
> <gs.manian <at> nic.in>, Shri L C Singhi <
> lcsinghi <at> nic.in>, Shri M M Ansari
> <mm.ansari <at> nic.in>, "Shri M.L. Sharma
> Information Commissioner" <sharma.ml <at> nic.in>,
> Shri O P Kejariwal <
> okejariwal <at> nic.in>, Shri P K P Shreyaskar
> <pkp.shreyaskar <at> nic.in>, Shri
> Tarun Kumar <tarun.kumar <at> nic.in>, Transparency
> International India <
> tiindia.newdelhi <at> gmail.com>, delhihighcourt <at> nic.in, Help
> Supreme Court <
> supremecourt <at> nic.in>, Hon'ble Speaker Lok Sabha
> Parliament <
> speakerloksabha <at> sansad.nic.in>, Hon'ble Vice
> President of India <
> vpindia <at> sansad.nic.in>, Hon'ble Prime Minister
> <pmosb-A5gn5j7FT0U@public.gmane.orgin>, Smt
> Pratibha Patil Hon'ble President of India
> <presidentofindia <at> rb.nic.in>
>
>
> Shri Wajahat Habibullah,Chief Information Commissioner,
> Central Information Commission,
> New Delhi
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> As an inquisitive person and a citizen concerned about the
> transparency in
> public administration & on the rampant corruption in
> India, I would like to
> know the details of the assets presently held by you and
> other ICs of
> CIC (excluding Shri Shailesh Gandhi IC CIC as I have seen
> the details of his
> assets).
>
> Kindly let me know it for yourself and for other ICs of
> CIC.
>
> With kind regards,
>
>
> --
> Babubhai Vaghela
> 202, Sarap, Opp Navjivan Press,
> Off Ashram Road, Ahmedabad - 380 014
> M - 94276 08632
> (Administrator Google Group - Right to Information Act
> 2005)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The Times of India Ahmedabad 31st Jan 2009
> CIC members not willing to disclose assets in public
> Himanshi Dhawan | TNN
>
> New Delhi: Information commissioners have chosen not to
> disclose their own
> assets on the CIC's website in a development which may
> cause many to wonder
> whether the transparency watchdog has trouble following
> what it preaches to
> others.
> In a candid admission, chief information commissioner
> Wajahat Habibullah
> said, "All information commissioners have declared
> their assets but they
> felt that this information should not be put on the
> commission's website.
> They did not want it on the CIC website.''
> Queried further on why the transparency watchdog was
> not keen on
> disclosure of its assets, Habibullah said, "The
> commissioners felt that they
> could put up the information on their personal
> websites.'' Crucially, none
> of the eight commissioners have their own website.
> *Times View: *The CIC owes its existence to the principle
> of transparency in
> public life. It must therefore go beyond just what the law
> mandates in
> furthering the cause of transparency. While it will be
> restricted by what
> the law says in passing orders on others, in its own case
> it would do well
> to set a moral example for others to follow. *'CIC
> should not hide behind
> technicalities' *
> New Delhi: A recent CIC meeting saw information
> commissioners, save a
> couple, vigorously contesting the idea of full public
> disclosure of their
> assets. They were of the view that giving income details
> would force state
> commissioners to follow suit, providing an opportunity to
> those who wished
> to "embarrass them''. Sources said that since
> it was not "legally binding'',
> the commissioners decided to reject the idea.
> Although the law does not require the commissioners to
> make their assets
> public, information rights activists including Shailesh
> Gandhi, a
> commissioner himself, say that the CIC should not take
> shelter behind
> technicalities. In fact, commissioners have often frowned
> upon and ruled
> against those who have cited procedures and conventions to
> resist demands
> that their assets be put in the public domain.
> The decision comes days after a CIC order in which it
> ruled that the CJI
> was a public authority and information held by the
> CJI's office—including
> the number and names of judges who have filed their
> assets—should be made
> public. The decision has been challenged by the SC in the
> Delhi HC. TNN
>
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> Judges not bound to disclose their wealth: CJI
> 17 Jan 2009, 1403 hrs IST, PTI
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> NEW DELHI: With Supreme Court moving an appeal in the Delhi
> High Court
> against the CIC order on making assets of its
> judges<http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3993402.cms#>
> public,
> the Chief Justice of India K G Balakrishnan has made it
> clear that the
> judges "are not bound to disclose" their wealth.
>
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