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Myth Kumar | 2 Jan 03:46 2009

RTI must reach out to masses - Arvind Kejriwal

THE RTI (Right to Information) needs to be saved from retired bureaucrats
who have begun treating the post of information commissioners as
post-retirement perks. There is already a 15-month pendency of complaints
though the number of information commissioners has gone up to nine against
11 sanctioned posts. If things continue like this, we might be holding
seminars three or four years down the line wondering where and how we went
wrong on RTI.

Retired bureaucrats who are appointed as information commissioners, with
their ambassadors with beacons, Rs 80,000 per month pay and other perks,
hear less than 1.5 cases a day. In November, the nine information
commissioners dealt with only 602 cases. One particular commissioner heard
32 cases and the other only 44.

Hearings in RTI do not take more than 10 minutes on average. Contrast this
with a high court judge who takes up 200 cases in a month, all of which
involve prolonged arguments and complex issues.

What would be the point in filing an RTI when one knows that the reply would
come only after three years.

RTI is a true weapon for the people in a democracy and the post of
information commissioners should be filled up by people who have a proven
track record of knowing, adhering to and supporting the concept of RTI and
it should not be limited to bureaucrats so that, unlike the current
situation, the law is enforced properly. Not only the pendency, but
enforcement should be the focus and this cannot be achieved even if 100 such
information commissioners are appointed. Enough is enough.

There is also a need to simplify the procedure of obtaining information RTI.
Half of our country's population is not yet literate enough to understand
how to obtain the information under the RTI. If the concept does not reach
the masses, it would cease to be effective as it would remain limited to a
miniscule percentage of population. The Centre and the states should follow
the Bihar example of setting up a call centre where people can register
their RTI applications over the phone.

ARVIND KEJRIWAL, a winner of the Magsaysay Award, has been a crusader for
transparency and a key architect of the RTI Act in the country We invite
readers to BE the change. Write in with your ideas, suggestions or comments
to editorblr <at> deccanmail.com, or send them to The Editor, Deccan Chronicle,
5th Floor, HM Towers, Bengaluru-01
http://www.dc-epaper.com/DC/DCB/2009/01/02/ArticleHtmls/02_01_2009_009_005.shtml?Mode=1
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sroy1947 | 2 Jan 07:09 2009
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Re: rti_india] Thanks sarabjit

Dear All

Sarbajit is not going to become CIC.

The present ICs have not "shifted their allegiances". They were all
corrupt little turds well before they became ICs. Being a corrupt
little turd is an "eminent" pre-requisite for these kinds of positions.

My 2009 resolution is to focus on "corrupt little shits of RTI"
instead of the "Mir Jafars of RTI".

Sarbajit

--- In rti_india <at> yahoogroups.com, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> I did not think about it, what you say make sense, if Sarabjit
becomes CIC who will give us
> good advise, however Sarabjit could still become the CIC and double
up through another person ( name ) to give advise. ( i would not call
it double crossing )
>
> Rgds
> Leslie Almeida
>
> --- On Tue, 12/30/08, Sidharth <sidharthbbsr <at> ...> wrote:
>
> From: Sidharth <sidharthbbsr <at> ...>
> Subject: [rti_india] rti_india] Thanks sarabjit
> To: "rti_india <at> yahoogroups.com" <rti_india <at> yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 12:55 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > i must admit that you are the most versitile person in the RTI
act, and i pray some day you become the SIC or CIC.
>
> That's really nice on part of Leslie. Not a bad idea either. I too am
> not averse to it.
>
> But if he is is allowed to move to the opposite camp, he may shift his
> allegiance too and could be indoctrinated by the corrupt practices of
> CICs/SICs.
>
> His advises, alerts & prodding on various misgivings shall be sourly
> missed at this forum.
>
> Not a palatable though either. Think of it.
>
> Sidharth
>
> From: LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000 <at> yahoo. com>
> Date: Dec 30, 2008 10:07 AM
> Subject: [rti_india] Thanks sarabjit
> To: rti_india <at> yahoogrou ps.com
>
> Dear Sarabjit
>
> I thank you very much for your valuable advise, and will proceed into
> my matter as suggested ,
> there was no one not even on HJ to give me proper advise, some telling
> me to fly to delhi meet so and so, all vague advises.
> i must admit that you are the most versitile person in the RTI act,
> and i pray some day you become the SIC or CIC
>
> Thanks a million once again
>
> Kind rgds
> Leslie Almeida
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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rajneesh madhok | 2 Jan 10:25 2009
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Thanks for your new year greetings

Hi!
Thanks for your new year greetings.I reciprocate the same wishes to you and pray to God that He will shower His blessings and by His grace you continue to do the deeds for the upliftment of downdrodden. So, that we can boast by hugging each other on our achievements if we can make the officials accountable to their jobs. So, by these deeds we shall prove our loyalty to the nation and by your kind efforts the people of India will be free from the cluthes of nepotism and corruption.

Rajneesh Madhok,
B-xxx/63, Nehru Nagar,
St. No. 2,
Railway Road,
Phagwara-144401 (Pb)
Ph; 01824-262569 (O), 268210 (R), 094173-06415
Tele-fax: 01824-262569, E-mail: madhok_rajneesh <at> vsnl.net

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> Subject: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2009
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Satish Kumar Kapoor | 2 Jan 16:46 2009
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Re: RTI must reach out to masses - Arvind Kejriwal

The Way appeals are heard by Information commissioners,  If appeals are heard after three years ( not heard but just pretended to be heard) and orders passed with biase mind to deny information.RTI act will die its natural death

 
S.K.Kapoor
--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Myth Kumar <fightin498a <at> googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Myth Kumar <fightin498a <at> googlemail.com>
Subject: [rti_india] RTI must reach out to masses - Arvind Kejriwal
To: rti4empowerment <at> yahoogroups.com, "HumJanenge" <HumJanenge <at> yahoogroups.co.in>, "India RTI" <indiarti <at> yahoogroups.com>, "KRIA" <kria <at> yahoogroups.com>, "RTI India" <rti_india <at> yahoogroups.com>, "RTI Orissa" <rti-orissa <at> yahoogroups.co.in>, "The Kirti" <thekirti <at> yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:16 AM

THE RTI (Right to Information) needs to be saved from retired bureaucrats
who have begun treating the post of information commissioners as
post-retirement perks. There is already a 15-month pendency of complaints
though the number of information commissioners has gone up to nine against
11 sanctioned posts. If things continue like this, we might be holding
seminars three or four years down the line wondering where and how we went
wrong on RTI.

Retired bureaucrats who are appointed as information commissioners, with
their ambassadors with beacons, Rs 80,000 per month pay and other perks,
hear less than 1.5 cases a day. In November, the nine information
commissioners dealt with only 602 cases. One particular commissioner heard
32 cases and the other only 44.

Hearings in RTI do not take more than 10 minutes on average. Contrast this
with a high court judge who takes up 200 cases in a month, all of which
involve prolonged arguments and complex issues.

What would be the point in filing an RTI when one knows that the reply would
come only after three years.

RTI is a true weapon for the people in a democracy and the post of
information commissioners should be filled up by people who have a proven
track record of knowing, adhering to and supporting the concept of RTI and
it should not be limited to bureaucrats so that, unlike the current
situation, the law is enforced properly. Not only the pendency, but
enforcement should be the focus and this cannot be achieved even if 100 such
information commissioners are appointed. Enough is enough.

There is also a need to simplify the procedure of obtaining information RTI.
Half of our country's population is not yet literate enough to understand
how to obtain the information under the RTI. If the concept does not reach
the masses, it would cease to be effective as it would remain limited to a
miniscule percentage of population. The Centre and the states should follow
the Bihar example of setting up a call centre where people can register
their RTI applications over the phone.

ARVIND KEJRIWAL, a winner of the Magsaysay Award, has been a crusader for
transparency and a key architect of the RTI Act in the country We invite
readers to BE the change. Write in with your ideas, suggestions or comments
to editorblr <at> deccanmai l.com, or send them to The Editor, Deccan Chronicle,
5th Floor, HM Towers, Bengaluru-01
http://www.dc- epaper.com/ DC/DCB/2009/ 01/02/ArticleHtm ls/02_01_ 2009_009_ 005.shtml? Mode=1
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http://www.crisp- india.org/
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http://www.antidowr y.org/

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Vaghela B D | 4 Jan 05:28 2009
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Let us support Mr. Arun Bhatia - Campaign <========(can you forward this mail to your friends)


Dear All,

Let us support Mr Arun Bhatia WHOLE HEATEDLY.

My special appeal would be to the people from Pune to extend help.

With warm regards,

Babubhai Vaghela,
Ahmedabad

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> From: usukulsingh <at> hotmail.com <usukulsingh <at> hotmail.com>
> Subject: Fw: Mission 2009:Contribute towards Mr. Bhatia Campaign <========(can you forward this mail to your friends)
> To: rajneesh_madhok <at> yahoo.com, tally5740 <at> yahoo.co.in, rajyaduv <at> gmail.com, rakesh <at> nyayabhoomi.org, rameshtripathy_2006 <at> yahoo.com, rejimonck <at> gmail.com, resurgenceindia <at> hotmail.com, rshiva_m <at> yahoo.com, rti4ngo <at> yahoogroups.com, rti_india <at> yahoogroups.com, rtikranti <at> gmail.com, rtimahilamanchup <at> yahoo.co.in, rtimahilamanchup <at> gmail.com, sahasipadyatri <at> gmail.com, "sanjayshirodkar" <sanjay.shirodkar <at> gmail.com>, santosh_shukla99 <at> yahoo.com, sherleyjsingh <at> yahoo.co.in, Shibu.Narayanan <at> iflexsolutions.com, shivaricha92 <at> gmail.com, siddharth_murarka <at> yahoo.com, sidharthbbsr <at> gmail.com, sroy1947 <at> yahoo.com, sundewsoft49 <at> gmail.com, tariq43 <at> gmail.com, tellsachin <at> yahoo.com, tellsachin <at> gmail.com, thebravepedestrian <at> gmail.com, usukulsingh <at> hotmail.com, v_kudz <at> yahoo.com, vaghelabd <at> yahoo.com, vasulyadav.blaster <at> gmail.com, vikramsimha54 <at> yahoo.co.in, vrajgadia <at> yahoo.co.uk, zahltantra <at> gmail.com, "bimal khemani" <bimal.khemani <at> rediffmail.com>, zeereporter <at> yahoo.co.in
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 2:07 AM
> Dear Friends,
> A very honest ,ex-IAS officer is standing for elections for
> the Pune Lok Sabha seat.I'm grateful to Mr.Khemani for
> your contact.I eouldbe glad for your support in any of the
> ways described,to his cause.
> Regards,
> Urvi Sukul Singh
>
>
> From: Debasish Pramanik
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 11:51 PM
> To: usukulsingh <at> hotmail.com
> Subject: Mission 2009:Contribute towards Mr. Bhatia
> Campaign <========(can you forward this mail to your
> friends)
>
>
> Hi All:
>
>
> Request to all Punekars, we did in 1999 when we all got
> united to get back Mr. Bhatia as our Minicipal Commissioner.
> Lets get united and elect him as our representative for Lok
> Sabha for 2009.
>
> Mr. Bhatia is ordinary man and he needs our monetary
> support to fight for the cause. I request you all to
> contribute towards his cause. We all can start with a small
> amount of Rs. 100/-. Consider there are around 5 Lac IT
> professionals in the city. Even 50% of us pay Rs. 100/- for
> his noble cause, it will be worth contribution towards a
> great cause.
>
> Please visit the below link for contribution by web
>
> http://arunbhatiaelect.com/campaign/contribute.html
>
> Or visit to Mr. Bhatia office at
>
> Lok Rakshak Party Office
> 31 Ashoka Mall
> Bund Garden Road
> Pune 411001
> Maharashtra INDIA
>
> Tel: +91-20-3233 5402
> Tel: +91-20-3052 0242
>
> to pay individually.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Debasish Pramanik
> http://www.arunbhatiaelect.com
> http://debasishpramanik.wordpress.com/
> http://punevoteforchange.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Debasish Pramanik
> http://www.arunbhatiaelect.com
> http://debasishpramanik.wordpress.com/
> http://punevoteforchange.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
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Vihar Durve | 4 Jan 10:57 2009
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RTI Impact: Quality tests for tanker water

 Dear All, Every year as per World Heaith Orgn Report Eight lakh people die in India due to water borne diseases.  Doctors say, More water from tanker, more illness RTI Application was filed in year 2006 to find out whether  how does civic body checks the purity of  drinking water supplied by tankers. PMC informed that RTO checks it visually.  The reason why it is necessary to check the water because in the morning tankers suuply drinking water & in the evening tankers supply  water to construction sites collcted from borewells etc, nallas   etc. Also during last Sixty Years PMC never checked its chlorination tank,  1.5 feet silt was found , as a result 15% per annum expenditure was more.Now PMC has stated to check purity of water .  Therefore you may file  RTI & get tankers checked. . Thanks to  RTI & Media support.
 regards
 vihar
 
 1)Will post Water Specification & WHO Report first time in India.
 2) Coming Up:
Main buildings of PMC & BMC , schools, hospitals, ward offices have no fire, water,  electric dept NOC   no building stability  report. Civic body  cant keep its own house in order. PIO says there is no document but then who is asking document, what we are asking is NOC.  CCTvs NO Use....Find out in your cities too.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Complaints from citizens of water-borne diseases spurs civic body
Ashish Jadhav
The Pune Municipal Corpo­ration (PMC) has decided to carry out random checks on water tankers supplying drinking water to scarcity-hit areas of the city.
The PMC's water supply department on Wednesday issued an order after hold­ing a hearing before the civic body's appellate officer and development engineer Pramod Nirbhavne that from January 1 it will con­duct random checking of water quality supplied through tankers.
This decision was taken after a relentless follow up by Right to Information ac­tivist Vihar Durve on pro­viding pure potable water to the water scarcity areas in the city through tankers.
Durve said that he had taken up the matter with the civic body after large-scale complaints from citizens, particularly those depend­ent on water supply from
People collect watc, from a tanker -nie photo
tankers,   of   water-borne    diseases.
"It    happens    because many times the tankers are not cleaned from the inside.
So, despite the PMC supply­ing potable water, many a times, it gets contaminated," he said.
The order also stated that the water supply depart­ment will have a mobile lab-
oratory van which will visit the scarcity areas where wa­ter is supplied through tankers. "The PMC officials
 “ The PMC  have taken a good decision in order to ensure water quality for its citizens," he said.
Nirbhavne said that the water supply department will conduct the test to check whether the tanker water is potable or not. He also said that citizens could also contact the nearest PMC office, pumping sta­tion or the ward office and demand a water test.
"We have given a dead­line of February 2009 to all the tanker water suppliers to maintain their tankers in good shape," said Nibh'avne. "If we find any tanker leak­age or a tanker without a lid we will fine them RsSOO. If no further precaution is tak­en by the tanker suppliers then we will cancel the ten­der," he said.

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Neeraj Kumar | 4 Jan 11:07 2009
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Janne Ka Haq-FM Rainbow

Dear Friends

Continuing our efforts to make maximum people aware about right to
information, Kabir is starting one hour weekly radio show on AIR FM channel.
This programmes would be aired at 5 pm every Sunday on AIR FM's
Rainbowchanneland would be relayed in following cities and
frequencies–

* *

*Station                                    Frequency*

AIR-Aligarh                               101.3 MHz

Radio Kashmir, Jammu              100.3 MHz

AIR-Kanpur                               103.7 MHz

AIR-Kasaoli                               107.2 MHz

AIR-Kochi                                 107.5 MHz

AIR-Kurseong                            102.3 MHz

AIR-Mussorie                             102.1 MHz

AIR-Shillong                              103.6 MHz

AIR-Delhi                                  102.6 MHz

The show is being hosted by Manish Sisodia and Priyanka Tyagi of Kabir. The
first show would be on air this Sunday i.e. on 4th January 2008 at 5 pm.

Please circulate this message to as many people as possible. We look forward
for your comments and suggestion to make the show more effective and useful.

Regards

Neeraj Kumar

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Tel. 011 - 2248 5139
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Fw: Calling for Immediate Nationwide Agitation against Chief CICs and SICs


--- On Sun, 1/4/09, sahasipadyatri <sahasipadyatri@...> wrote:

> From: sahasipadyatri <sahasipadyatri@...>
> Subject: Calling for Immediate Nationwide Agitation against Chief CICs and SICs
> To: "Krishnaraj Rao" <thebravepedestrian@...>
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:08 PM
> Dear Fellow Citizens, Activists,
> 
> 
> 
> I am hereby calling for a nationwide agitation against
> Chief State & Central
> Information Commissioners, to begin within the next 10 days
> or so. Our
> agitation may take various forms of civil disobedience; let
> us discuss and
> plan the specific details.
> 
> 
> 
> *Our demand is simple and lawful:* Each Chief CIC/SIC must
> send a circular
> to all public authorities in their jurisdiction, stressing
> the four points
> mentioned below. (Needless to say, individual Information
> Commissioners must
> thereafter follow up and enforce these with immediate
> effect… but if
> circulars are issued, we shall take that as a written
> commitment, and follow
> up on the implementation.)
> 
> * *
> 
> *Our Demand: Chief State/Central Information Commissioners
> must issue
> circulars that stress the following RTI provisions:*
> 
> * *
> 
> 1.       *strict Enforcement of Section 20: *
> 
> *Penalties  & DISCIPLINARY action *
> 
> *for breach of crucial rti deadlines*
> 
> *                *
> 
> §  [Normally 30 days from the date of receipt, but only 48
> hours
> ifconcerning life and liberty of a person, as per Sec.
> 7(1).
> 
> §  5 additional days are added to the above u/s 5(2) if
> RTI application is
> transferred to an Assistant PIO.**
> 
> §  40 days if the information is given by third party in
> confidence, as per
> Sec. 11 (3)
> 
> §  If cost of providing the information is being charged,
> intimation of the
> same must be sent to the RTI Applicant. The period between
> the dispatch of
> this intimation and payment of fees by Applicant is
> excluded for the purpose
> of calculating the deadline, as per Sec. 7(3).
> 
> 
> 
> *Failure to meet any of the above deadlines means that
> penalty * <at>  Rs 250 per
> day upto Rs 25,000 and *departmental action* must be
> applicable u/s 20. No
> excuses that are not mentioned under the RTI Act will be
> admissible.
> 
> 
> 
> *Details for enforcement:*
> 
> 
> 
> a)      In cases where responsibility cannot be clearly
> isolated and pinned
> on PIO, penalties for *contributory negligence or abetting
> negligence* must
> be imposed as per Section 20 on all parties concerned with
> providing
> information – PIO, Assistant PIO, 1st Appellate
> Authority, head of the
> public authority etc.  *This is mandatory, not
> discretionary or
> discriminatory; and this has been upheld by several High
> Courts.*
> 
> b)      If failure to meet the above deadlines are noted by
> FAA, then FAA
> must pass strictures clearly pinpointing negligence and
> non-compliance with
> various sections of the Act in their order. Also, they must
> forward their
> orders to SIC for consider action u/s 20. *This is
> mandatory as per the
> intent of Act.*
> 
> c)       Penalty, reprimands and strictures passed against
> PIOs and others
> by CIC/SIC must be mandatorily included in *Annual
> Confidential Reports
> (ACR) and Service Records* of those employees. **
> 
> d)      CIC/SIC's file cannot close with simply passing
> orders. Unless a
> compliance report is filed, CIC/SIC must summon the PIO and
> FAA every month
> for a hearing and seek justification.  *This is mandatory
> in keeping with
> the spirit of the Act.*
> 
> 
> 
> 2.       *strict Enforcement of Sec. 19(5):*
> 
> *putting onUS on PIO to justify dENIAL*
> 
> As per Sec 19(5), in any appeal proceedings, the onus to
> prove that a denial
> of a request was justified shall be on the Central Public
> Information
> Officer or State Public Information Officer, as the case
> may be, who denied
> the request. Section 19(5) must be strictly enforced at
> both FAA and
> CIC/SIC. *PIO must present justifications under RTI Act in
> writing*,
> otherwise action under Sec 20 must follow.
> 
> 
> 
> 3.       *strict interpretation & Enforcement of SEC.
> 6(1), 4(3) & 7(1): *
> 
> *responses in same language as rti application*
> 
> (English / Hindi / Regional Language)
> 
> *Reply must be in same language as RTI application* as per
> 6(1), 4(3) and
> 7(9)].
> 
> Unless the matter demanded is photocopy of an existing
> document, PIO's reply
> and information must be in the language of RTI Application.
> Unless replying
> in the same language would "*disportionately divert
> the resources of the
> public authority"* (eg. If a remote village panchayat
> office receives an RTI
> application in English),* *breach of this norm must be
> taken as a
> *malafide*and misleading action, and penalty must be
> imposed.
> 
> 
> 
> 4.       *strict Enforcement of Sec. 8(1)(J):*
> 
> *MANDATORY DISCLOSURE TO PARLIAMENT, ASSEMBLY ETC.*
> 
> If any matter is denied to an ordinary citizen under any
> section whatsoever,
> the PIO must give a letter stating that he would not give
> such information
> even if it were demanded by the parliament as per Sec
> 8(1)(j) latter half.
> This must be countersigned by the head of the Public
> Authority.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *(Of course there are many more things that we may wish to
> include in our
> demands. However, let us avoid that temptation, because too
> many demands are
> difficult to focus on, negotiate and agitate for. It will
> also confuse the
> general public and media, whose understanding and support
> will be critical
> to our success. So let us keep our demands focused and
> sharp.)*
> 
> * *
> 
> *To avert our agitation before it happens, or to end it
> when it is in
> progress, what action is required from each Chief SIC/CIC?
> *
> 
> * *
> 
> *The answer is: *Chief CIC/SIC must immediately send a
> circular to heads of
> all public authorities stressing all of the above points.
> When activists of
> this jurisdiction are satisfied that a suitably worded
> circular has been
> issued and dispatched, they will end their agitation.
> 
> 
> 
> *Key parameters for our agitation are*:
> 
> 
> 
> (a)     *Cause plenty of inconvenience and embarrassment
> *to Chief CICs and
> SICs in their official capacity**
> 
> (b)   *Avoid targeting individuals and creating personal
> enemity *because
> our fight is not against individuals, but against a corrupt
> system. **
> 
> (c)    *Interesting *methods of civil disobedience* *to*
> *involve maximum
> numbers of citizens and hold their interest
> 
> (d)   *Sustainable *methods of civil disobedience – let
> us avoid
> hunger-strikes etc., or at least save these options for
> later.
> 
> (e)   *Frequent elements of surprise *to keep officials and
> media on their
> toes**
> 
> (f)     *Cheerful methods *to avoid depression and gloom in
> our ranks**
> 
> (g)    *Avoid causing too much inconvenience to the general
> public. *Some
> inconvenience may be unavoidable, but we must remember that
> members of the
> general public -- no matter what stand they take – are
> not our adversaries.*
> *
> 
> (h)   *Avoid violence at all costs. **Maar khana achcha
> hai, lekin maarna
> allowed nahin hai. *We must all take pains to keep tempers
> cool, no matter
> what provocations come our way, because we stand for a
> cause that is much
> larger that each of us.**
> 
> 
> 
> We all have been thinking and debating for months and
> years. There have been
> enough discussions with Information Commissioners. It is
> already too late.
> There is no excuse for further delay. Let us agitate now.
> 
> 
> 
> As for what forms of agitation we must adopt to make the
> movement
> broad-based and effective – let us start the discussion
> on phone and email.
> 
> 
> 
> Warm Regards,
> 
> Krishnaraj Rao
> 
> Spokesman, Sahasi Padyatri movement
> 
> 98215 88114

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sanjiva dayal | 5 Jan 12:13 2009
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Re: Fw: Calling for Immediate Nationwide Agitation against Chief CICs and SICs

Dear Citizen/activists,
Illegal orders passed by SIC and CIC can only be vacated through writs in High Courts and not through agitation/dharna/pradarshan. An order passed in a judicial/quasi-judicial proceedings attains finality if not challenged in higher courts. SIC and CIC have already passed innumerable orders which are against the provisions and definitions of the RTI Act and the PIO's are using these illegal orders against the citizens for wrongly denying information. Very few writs have been filed in High Courts against these illegal orders of SIC/CIC indicating that most of the RTI activists/ngo's are not interested in filing writs in High Courts but are more interested in agitation/dharna/pradarshan. The issues for which agitation/dharna/pradarshan are held can be legally enforced through High Court and Supreme Court orders with much less money and resource. I call upon all citizens/activists to file writs in High Courts against illegal orders/actions of SIC/CIC and to
support each other in doing so and all such citizens/activists can contact me for the same.

Sanjiva Dayal, B.Tech.(I.I.T. Kanpur)
Address:A-602, Twin Towers, Lakhanpur, Kanpur-208024, INDIA.
Phones:+91-512-2581532,2581426.
Mobile:9415134052
Business email:sanjivadayal <at> yahoo.com
Personal email:sanjivadayal <at> hotmail.com

--- On Mon, 1/5/09, LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000 <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: LESLIE ALMEIDA <lesals2000 <at> yahoo.com>
> Subject: [rti_india] Fw: Calling for Immediate Nationwide Agitation against Chief CICs and SICs
> To: hamarasociety <at> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 6:13 AM
> --- On Sun, 1/4/09, sahasipadyatri
> <sahasipadyatri <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: sahasipadyatri <sahasipadyatri <at> gmail.com>
> > Subject: Calling for Immediate Nationwide Agitation
> against Chief CICs and SICs
> > To: "Krishnaraj Rao"
> <thebravepedestrian <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 8:08 PM
> > Dear Fellow Citizens, Activists,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am hereby calling for a nationwide agitation against
> > Chief State & Central
> > Information Commissioners, to begin within the next 10
> days
> > or so. Our
> > agitation may take various forms of civil
> disobedience; let
> > us discuss and
> > plan the specific details.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Our demand is simple and lawful:* Each Chief CIC/SIC
> must
> > send a circular
> > to all public authorities in their jurisdiction,
> stressing
> > the four points
> > mentioned below. (Needless to say, individual
> Information
> > Commissioners must
> > thereafter follow up and enforce these with immediate
> > effect… but if
> > circulars are issued, we shall take that as a written
> > commitment, and follow
> > up on the implementation.)
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Our Demand: Chief State/Central Information
> Commissioners
> > must issue
> > circulars that stress the following RTI provisions:*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > 1. *strict Enforcement of Section 20: *
> >
> > *Penalties & DISCIPLINARY action *
> >
> > *for breach of crucial rti deadlines*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > § [Normally 30 days from the date of receipt, but
> only 48
> > hours
> > ifconcerning life and liberty of a person, as per Sec.
> > 7(1).
> >
> > § 5 additional days are added to the above u/s 5(2)
> if
> > RTI application is
> > transferred to an Assistant PIO.**
> >
> > § 40 days if the information is given by third party
> in
> > confidence, as per
> > Sec. 11 (3)
> >
> > § If cost of providing the information is being
> charged,
> > intimation of the
> > same must be sent to the RTI Applicant. The period
> between
> > the dispatch of
> > this intimation and payment of fees by Applicant is
> > excluded for the purpose
> > of calculating the deadline, as per Sec. 7(3).
> >
> >
> >
> > *Failure to meet any of the above deadlines means that
> > penalty * <at> Rs 250 per
> > day upto Rs 25,000 and *departmental action* must be
> > applicable u/s 20. No
> > excuses that are not mentioned under the RTI Act will
> be
> > admissible.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Details for enforcement:*
> >
> >
> >
> > a) In cases where responsibility cannot be
> clearly
> > isolated and pinned
> > on PIO, penalties for *contributory negligence or
> abetting
> > negligence* must
> > be imposed as per Section 20 on all parties concerned
> with
> > providing
> > information – PIO, Assistant PIO, 1st Appellate
> > Authority, head of the
> > public authority etc. *This is mandatory, not
> > discretionary or
> > discriminatory; and this has been upheld by several
> High
> > Courts.*
> >
> > b) If failure to meet the above deadlines are
> noted by
> > FAA, then FAA
> > must pass strictures clearly pinpointing negligence
> and
> > non-compliance with
> > various sections of the Act in their order. Also, they
> must
> > forward their
> > orders to SIC for consider action u/s 20. *This is
> > mandatory as per the
> > intent of Act.*
> >
> > c) Penalty, reprimands and strictures passed
> against
> > PIOs and others
> > by CIC/SIC must be mandatorily included in *Annual
> > Confidential Reports
> > (ACR) and Service Records* of those employees. **
> >
> > d) CIC/SIC's file cannot close with simply
> passing
> > orders. Unless a
> > compliance report is filed, CIC/SIC must summon the
> PIO and
> > FAA every month
> > for a hearing and seek justification. *This is
> mandatory
> > in keeping with
> > the spirit of the Act.*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. *strict Enforcement of Sec. 19(5):*
> >
> > *putting onUS on PIO to justify dENIAL*
> >
> > As per Sec 19(5), in any appeal proceedings, the onus
> to
> > prove that a denial
> > of a request was justified shall be on the Central
> Public
> > Information
> > Officer or State Public Information Officer, as the
> case
> > may be, who denied
> > the request. Section 19(5) must be strictly enforced
> at
> > both FAA and
> > CIC/SIC. *PIO must present justifications under RTI
> Act in
> > writing*,
> > otherwise action under Sec 20 must follow.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. *strict interpretation & Enforcement of
> SEC.
> > 6(1), 4(3) & 7(1): *
> >
> > *responses in same language as rti application*
> >
> > (English / Hindi / Regional Language)
> >
> > *Reply must be in same language as RTI application* as
> per
> > 6(1), 4(3) and
> > 7(9)].
> >
> > Unless the matter demanded is photocopy of an existing
> > document, PIO's reply
> > and information must be in the language of RTI
> Application.
> > Unless replying
> > in the same language would "*disportionately
> divert
> > the resources of the
> > public authority"* (eg. If a remote village
> panchayat
> > office receives an RTI
> > application in English),* *breach of this norm must be
> > taken as a
> > *malafide*and misleading action, and penalty must be
> > imposed.
> >
> >
> >
> > 4. *strict Enforcement of Sec. 8(1)(J):*
> >
> > *MANDATORY DISCLOSURE TO PARLIAMENT, ASSEMBLY ETC.*
> >
> > If any matter is denied to an ordinary citizen under
> any
> > section whatsoever,
> > the PIO must give a letter stating that he would not
> give
> > such information
> > even if it were demanded by the parliament as per Sec
> > 8(1)(j) latter half.
> > This must be countersigned by the head of the Public
> > Authority.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *(Of course there are many more things that we may
> wish to
> > include in our
> > demands. However, let us avoid that temptation,
> because too
> > many demands are
> > difficult to focus on, negotiate and agitate for. It
> will
> > also confuse the
> > general public and media, whose understanding and
> support
> > will be critical
> > to our success. So let us keep our demands focused and
> > sharp.)*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *To avert our agitation before it happens, or to end
> it
> > when it is in
> > progress, what action is required from each Chief
> SIC/CIC?
> > *
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *The answer is: *Chief CIC/SIC must immediately send a
> > circular to heads of
> > all public authorities stressing all of the above
> points.
> > When activists of
> > this jurisdiction are satisfied that a suitably worded
> > circular has been
> > issued and dispatched, they will end their agitation.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Key parameters for our agitation are*:
> >
> >
> >
> > (a) *Cause plenty of inconvenience and
> embarrassment
> > *to Chief CICs and
> > SICs in their official capacity**
> >
> > (b) *Avoid targeting individuals and creating
> personal
> > enemity *because
> > our fight is not against individuals, but against a
> corrupt
> > system. **
> >
> > (c) *Interesting *methods of civil disobedience*
> *to*
> > *involve maximum
> > numbers of citizens and hold their interest
> >
> > (d) *Sustainable *methods of civil disobedience –
> let
> > us avoid
> > hunger-strikes etc., or at least save these options
> for
> > later.
> >
> > (e) *Frequent elements of surprise *to keep
> officials and
> > media on their
> > toes**
> >
> > (f) *Cheerful methods *to avoid depression and
> gloom in
> > our ranks**
> >
> > (g) *Avoid causing too much inconvenience to the
> general
> > public. *Some
> > inconvenience may be unavoidable, but we must remember
> that
> > members of the
> > general public -- no matter what stand they take –
> are
> > not our adversaries.*
> > *
> >
> > (h) *Avoid violence at all costs. **Maar khana
> achcha
> > hai, lekin maarna
> > allowed nahin hai. *We must all take pains to keep
> tempers
> > cool, no matter
> > what provocations come our way, because we stand for a
> > cause that is much
> > larger that each of us.**
> >
> >
> >
> > We all have been thinking and debating for months and
> > years. There have been
> > enough discussions with Information Commissioners. It
> is
> > already too late.
> > There is no excuse for further delay. Let us agitate
> now.
> >
> >
> >
> > As for what forms of agitation we must adopt to make
> the
> > movement
> > broad-based and effective – let us start the
> discussion
> > on phone and email.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > Krishnaraj Rao
> >
> > Spokesman, Sahasi Padyatri movement
> >
> > 98215 88114
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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