Please review ietf-draft of the "application/soap+xml" media type

This email serves to instantiate the two weeks discussion period on
"ietf-types <at> iana.org" of the ietf-draft describing the
"application/soap+xml" media type registration.

You can find the draft at
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-soap-media-reg-02.txt

Thank you.

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Internet-Draft                                                Mark Baker
Expires: October, 2003                                       Independent
                                                         Mark Nottingham
                                                             BEA Systems
                                                          April 14, 2003

                 The "application/soap+xml" media type
                   draft-baker-soap-media-reg-02.txt

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   of Section 10 of RFC2026.

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Re: Please review ietf-draft of the "application/soap+xml" media type

I think this is on the whole just fine.  The sentence referenced below is 
(a) a run on sentence and (b) seems to imply that the media type is only 
useable in the context of a SOAP binding.  Isn't this a bit like saying 
that image/gif is only a useful media type if you have a GIF viewer 
application in mind?  It seems to me that the reference to SOAP bindings 
might be included as informative, but the media type is appropriate any 
time something is intended to be a SOAP envelope.  That could include one 
queued in a database, set out in a buffer or whatever.  Using this media 
type says:  this data is interpretable as a serialized SOAP envelope. 

<original>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can 
be used to identify SOAP messages serialized with XML 1.0 carried in MIME 
or MIME like protocols that support the concept of media types for which a 
SOAP binding has been defined.
</original>

<proposedShort>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can 
be used to identify SOAP message envelopes that have been serialized with 
XML 1.0. 
</proposedShort>

<proposedLonger>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can 
be used to identify SOAP message envelopes that have been serialized with 
XML 1.0.    Such serializations are useful as the basis "wire formats" for 
SOAP 1.2 Protocol Binding Specifications [ref to SOAP part 1 Section 4], 
or in other situations where an XML serialization of a SOAP envelope is 

Re: Please review ietf-draft of the "application/soap+xml" media type

I think this is on the whole just fine.  The sentence referenced below is
(a) a run on sentence and (b) seems to imply that the media type is only
useable in the context of a SOAP binding.  Isn't this a bit like saying
that image/gif is only a useful media type if you have a GIF viewer
application in mind?  It seems to me that the reference to SOAP bindings
might be included as informative, but the media type is appropriate any
time something is intended to be a SOAP envelope.  That could include one
queued in a database, set out in a buffer or whatever.  Using this media
type says:  this data is interpretable as a serialized SOAP envelope.

<original>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can
be used to identify SOAP messages serialized with XML 1.0 carried in MIME
or MIME like protocols that support the concept of media types for which a
SOAP binding has been defined.
</original>

<proposedShort>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can
be used to identify SOAP message envelopes that have been serialized with
XML 1.0.
</proposedShort>

<proposedLonger>
This specification defines the media type "application/soap+xml" which can
be used to identify SOAP message envelopes that have been serialized with
XML 1.0.    Such serializations are useful as the basis "wire formats" for
SOAP 1.2 Protocol Binding Specifications [ref to SOAP part 1 Section 4],
or in other situations where an XML serialization of a SOAP envelope is