Bernie Monette | 2 Feb 2000 00:01
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re: Meeting in Adelaide...

Although I cannot make it I do have an agenda item. I am curious about
the response to the WEIRD page I put up. Feedback etc.
Go to http://www.iaai.ca/weird to check it out.

Bernie

Bernie Monette
InterActive Arts
Internet Presence Management
http://www.iaai.ca mailto:monette <at> iaai.ca (416) 469-4337

Burke Chris-CCB007 | 3 Feb 2000 22:54

Adelaide Meeting

Nobody has expressed a preference for when we meet at Adelaide, so I am
going to file a request this week as follows:
- Single 2 hour slot
- Avoid: application area meeting, the other user services working groups,
and selected application working group meetings
Please write me at Chris.Burke <at> motorola.com if you want any other parameters
on the scheduling request.

Chris Burke
WIERD Chair

Bernie Monette | 6 Feb 2000 02:43
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Re: WEIRD template

Greetings!

I was responding to a general request by Chris-I was unaware that any
work had been done on the templates. In any event what is to be done
with the templates? Information? I can't make the meetings but I would
like to participate.

Bernie

Bernie Monette
InterActive Arts
Internet Presence Management
http://www.iaai.ca mailto:monette <at> iaai.ca (416) 469-4337

Darrin wrote:
> 
> Hi Bernie,
> 
> As far as I know, the template was decided at last years meeting in Oslo.
> Here is a snippet from an email to the list from Chris on 9.22.99:
> 
> > To kick-start WEIRD again for the Washington, DC meeting, here are two
> > topics for list discussion:
> > 1) Follow up on the action items from Oslo.
> > 2) A suggestion for new progress the group can make.
> >
> > Action Items from Oslo:
> >
> > - We agreed to assemble a core web design team of about 5 people. Status:
> I
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Burke Chris-CCB007 | 8 Feb 2000 23:04

Last call for WEIRD drafts for Adelaide!

The WEIRD group hasn't authored any drafts so far, since we're developing
web content.

If, for some reason, you'd like to write an internet draft for WEIRD, please
take note of Steve Coya's reminder that the drafts must be submitted by
March 10.

The official March 10 deadline does not apply to the "hot topics" write-ups
some of you are working on for WEIRD. Still, as a courtesy to others who
might want to read the current work on "hot topics" before Adelaide, please
try to get your "hot topics" write-ups in by March 15. I have received an
early write-up on multicast from Kathy Bosovich, and I am working on a draft
on wireless internet, but have not seen any other drafts.

Thanks for all your work! I hope to see some of you in Adelaide.

Regards,

Chris Burke

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steve Coya [SMTP:scoya <at> ietf.org]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 08, 2000 1:11 PM
> To:	wgchairs <at> ietf.org
> Subject:	Getting close to "that" time
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The cut-off date for Internet-Drafts prior to the IETF meeting in Adelaide
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April Marine | 9 Feb 2000 23:49

Re: Copyright Notice "Wireless Giants Design"... (614275)

Casey, there is no bigger Giants fan than I (being a native San
Franciscan); however, I must tell you that everything included in this msg
except the question about Adelaide is considered spam.  Please don't use
this list for such off-topic posts, especially commercial ones.

WEIRD will be meeting in Adelaide.

April

On 9 Feb 2000, 614275 GIANTS wrote:

> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
>   Dear Chris and other 'WEIRD' 1's....
> 
>  Here is a quick look at something I was hoping Motorola might be able to use
> effectively as an inroads advertising gimmick in Baseball Broadcast, should they
> be involved in that in the near future-(Aren't they the ones doing a 'Net similcast of the ARIZONA
DIAMONDBACKS, the GIANTS minor league team, from the
> old AIR FORCE 'DARPA' equiprment out of MARCH or BEALE AIR FORCE BASE? If you know more about that please get
back with me before the beginning of GIANTS' SPRING TRAINING which begins in PHOENIX, I guess around MARCH
4th? Meanwhile-
> I recieved no other notice concerning the WEIRD meeting in Adelaide, can I get more details? Is it still on?
Thank you, 
>   Casey
>  
> Subject: Copyright Notice
> 	"Wireless Giants Design"...
> 	(614275)
> Return-Path: <oieau <at> yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Philip | 10 Feb 2000 10:21
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RE: Copyright Notice "Wireless Giants Design"... (614275)

I am sorry to have to inform you, but sadly Chris past away on boxing day and is no longer with us.

-----Original Message-----
From:	April Marine [SMTP:April.Marine <at> nominum.com]
Sent:	Wednesday, February 09, 2000 10:50 PM
To:	614275 GIANTS
Cc:	ietf-weird <at> imc.org; Chris.Burke <at> motorola.com
Subject:	Re: Copyright Notice  "Wireless Giants Design"...  (614275)

Casey, there is no bigger Giants fan than I (being a native San
Franciscan); however, I must tell you that everything included in this msg
except the question about Adelaide is considered spam.  Please don't use
this list for such off-topic posts, especially commercial ones.

WEIRD will be meeting in Adelaide.

April

On 9 Feb 2000, 614275 GIANTS wrote:

> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
>   Dear Chris and other 'WEIRD' 1's....
> 
>  Here is a quick look at something I was hoping Motorola might be able to use
> effectively as an inroads advertising gimmick in Baseball Broadcast, should they
> be involved in that in the near future-(Aren't they the ones doing a 'Net similcast of the ARIZONA
DIAMONDBACKS, the GIANTS minor league team, from the
> old AIR FORCE 'DARPA' equiprment out of MARCH or BEALE AIR FORCE BASE? If you know more about that please get
back with me before the beginning of GIANTS' SPRING TRAINING which begins in PHOENIX, I guess around MARCH
4th? Meanwhile-
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Burke Chris-CCB007 | 10 Feb 2000 19:58

RE: Copyright Notice "Wireless Giants Design"... (614275)

What Chris are you talking about? And why are you disrupting this forum?
Chris Burke
Motorola
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Philip [SMTP:phil <at> foxform.co.uk]
> Sent:	Thursday, February 10, 2000 1:21 AM
> To:	'April Marine'; 614275 GIANTS
> Cc:	ietf-weird <at> imc.org; Chris.Burke <at> motorola.com
> Subject:	RE: Copyright Notice  "Wireless Giants Design"...  (614275)
> 
> I am sorry to have to inform you, but sadly Chris past away on boxing day
> and is no longer with us.
> 

Burke Chris-CCB007 | 15 Feb 2000 20:23

Is Denial of Service a WEIRD Hot Topic?

Any thoughts on whether this type of information is worth highlighting on
the web site? Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	The IESG [SMTP:iesg-secretary <at> ietf.org]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:24 AM
> Cc:	RFC Editor; Internet Architecture Board
> Subject:	Protocol Action: Network Ingress Filtering: Defeating Denial
> of Service Attacks which employ IP Source Address Spoofing to BCP
> 
> 
> 
> The IESG has approved 'Network Ingress Filtering: Defeating Denial of
> Service Attacks which employ IP Source Address Spoofing' <rfc2267> as a
> Best Current Practice.
> 
> The IESG Contact Persons are Randy Bush and Bert Wijnen.
> 
>  
> Technical Summary
>  
>  This document describes recommended router configurations to reduce
>  likelihood of attacks over the network.  It describes how an ISP customer
>  aggregation router should be configured to prevent a customer from
> sending
>  packets with source addresses from space other than their own.
> 
> Working Group Summary
> 
>  This is not the product of a working group, but has been used in
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Ray Plzak | 16 Feb 2000 12:58

Re: Is Denial of Service a WEIRD Hot Topic?

While this is certainly the topic d'jour, there are two ways to look at
how it can be addressed.  First, are putting up a tutorial type of
service?  If so then maybe what we do is point to the resources that are
already there such as the site that Paul Ferguson and Dan Senie have at
URL http://www.denialinfo.com/.  We don't want to reinvent the wheel.
Second, we can highlight IETF activity in this area, of which the message
below is a example of one part of the solution to the problem.  This has
some value in its timeliness, but does not point out all of the
discussions about this problem.  There are other RFCs and IDs that address
aspects of this as well.  They should be highlighted as well.  A keyword
search capability that would find these documents would certainly be
helpful here.  The effort here is obviously an upfront one to decide how
to set up the mechanism - perhaps a web crawler type tool that looks at
certain types of info at selected sites - RFCs, IDs, IETF mail list
archives, etc.  Food for thought.

Ray

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Burke Chris-CCB007 wrote:

> Any thoughts on whether this type of information is worth highlighting on
> the web site? Chris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	The IESG [SMTP:iesg-secretary <at> ietf.org]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:24 AM
> > Cc:	RFC Editor; Internet Architecture Board
> > Subject:	Protocol Action: Network Ingress Filtering: Defeating Denial
> > of Service Attacks which employ IP Source Address Spoofing to BCP
> > 
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Ray Plzak | 22 Feb 2000 14:14

Re: Is Denial of Service a WEIRD Hot Topic? Or What!

I should mention one of the available tools is moderated lists.

Ray

On 18 Feb 2000, 614275 GIANTS wrote:

>  I'm sure a lot of designers out there are not familiar with some of the strange
> ideosynchracies (please correct the spelling?) of the REAL BUSINESS WORLD out there-BUT, BELIEVE IT OR
NOT...in SAN FRANCISCO...at the CITY CLERKS's OFFICE
> which is where you register your DBA...."No NAME is ever turned away..." That is KORRECT! "We can not for
reasons heretofor told because it would be big sleaze-ball 'mustachio-Pete' expose...tell you ''why'
ANYONE can regoister the NAME of YOUR BUSINESS...on top of it already being registered! If you KNOEW
NOTHING of LAW...common sence would tell you...it is wrong, little voice would 
> be saying these are big time Communist Nut Crooks! And such is the situation!
> The same 'morons' at the LIBRARY of CONGRESS and "INTERNIC" say that they do not know that it is ILLEGAL to
register a 'DOT.COM' in the name of FORD MOTOR COMPANY, KELLOGGS, JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY, etc. Now in
theis CITY it is BOTH 'legal' and EXPECTED of you to "VOTE EARLY AND OFTEN"..which once was a joke...is NOW A
REALITY, just change your hat, go back in and use your 'other' 594 'names!' The freaks who run the City of
FRISCO, no longer 'depend' STRICTLY
> on the "DECEASED" to swing votes...they done everything but move the PEOPLE's REPUBLIC of CHINA here
enMasse, to 'vote'...and among the laws this City has,
> it is 'illegal' to check ID of suspicious people. It is 'illegal' to ask for ID
> of 'voters'...and so forth. If you think this is odd, MAYOR WILLIE BROWN is
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 February 2000, Ray Plzak wrote:
> 
> > In-Reply-To: <FB05FCBCB629D31180E600805FE6969ABE52EC <at> il06exm06.corp.mot.com>
> > Sender: owner-ietf-weird <at> imc.org
> > To: Burke Chris-CCB007 <Chris.Burke <at> motorola.com>
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