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April Marine | 10 Jan 2001 01:38

Minutes for Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments (weird) (fwd)

sorry--thought these were in already...thanks to Walt

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 09:32:59 -0500
From: Walter Houser <houser <at> cpcug.org>
To: April Marine <april.marine <at> nominum.com>
Cc: Christopher Burke <ccb007 <at> NAmerica.mot.com>
Subject: Minutes for Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments
    (weird)

Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments (weird)
Chair: Christopher Burke <ccb007 <at> NAmerica.mot.com>
User Services Area Director(s): April Marine <april.marine <at> nominum.com>
Mailing Lists:
General Discussion:ietf-weird <at> imc.org
To Subscribe: ietf-weird-request <at> imc.org
In Body: subscribe
Archive: http://www.imc.org/ietf-weird/

Chair for this session:  April Marine <april.marine <at> nominum.com>
Minutes: Walt Houser <houser.walt <at> forum.va.gov>

Chris Burke contacted April to say that he would be unable to make the
meeting. April proposed a one-line agenda: To Be or Not to Be. It was
accepted. Susan Harris and Walt Houser had attended before. The other two
participants were new to the WG.

WEIRD was always an experimental group. What is the scope of the group? It
is intended to explain the IETF to the general public and those who are
considering coming to the IETF for the first time.  Should it alert IETFers
to the status of major developments? This would be a difficult task that in
some measure duplicates the role of the trade press.  It also requires
considerable effort from knowledgeable authors. For example, instant
messaging is a hot topic that WEIRD could summarize. IM got wedged and split
into three groups. The situation is highly volatile. Before putting a
discussion of this sensitive situation on the IETF web pages, we would need
to consult with the involved parties.

The scope is potentially the entire IETF and its activities. Those new to
the IETF dont tend to read RFCs, but they will read web pages.

Should we do a use-case analysis to get a better understanding of the
possible audiences for WEIRD web pages? Should we review the emails from the
public?

Finally, should we continue or not? We have an audience and a medium, but
not content. Should we have a standing WG to cover IETF activities? Firms
and organizations are willing to send people to produce standards and
protocols in order to make or buy products. But they are less likely to pay
for online news summaries.

Other WEIRD like activities we could pursue:
	IETF FAQ?
	Funny RFCs.
	BOF Overviews.
	Help mail list to answer general questions about the IETF.

We concluded we could put this work into USWG, as WEIRD does not have the
momentum. We reached the consensus that WEIRD should be shut down.

Thanks, Walt Houser
Implementing Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act
http://www.cpcug.org/user/houser/section508/index.html
CPCUG Training Calendar at http://cpcug.org/user/houser/calendar/calendar.pl
Teach yourself cool web stuff at http://cpcug.org/user/houser/

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Burke Chris-CCB007 | 1 Dec 2000 01:27

Anybody Feel Like Writing a BOF Guide for IETF 49?

This was popular last time we did it. There are some interesting BOFs at San Diego. Not much time left to write
one, but I'll chip in if others are interested.

Chris

Burke Chris-CCB007 | 1 Dec 2000 01:24

IETF 49th WEIRD WG Agenda

Agenda for 49th IETF meeting of Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments (WEIRD) WG; Thursday,
December 14, 3:30 - 5:30 PM, Seabreeze room - check official IETF agenda for any last-minute changes.

5 min:  Introduction
15 min: Review of Progress Against WG Objectives
90 min: Discussion - Next Steps / Future WG Actions

Regards,

Chris Burke
WEIRD Chairman

graham.travers | 19 Oct 2000 18:23
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RE: WIERD

Brian,

That's too cryptic for me.  Can you respond in comprehensible English,
please ?

Regards,

Graham Travers

IP Standards Co-ordinator aexaCT
*  Tel: +44 1359 235086
*  Mobile:  0780 8502536
> *    Fax:  +44 1359 235087
*  HW B279, P.O. Box 200, London, N18 1ZF
* - Email:  graham.travers <at> bt.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Brian Curtis [SMTP:bac1 <at> cec.wustl.edu]
> Sent:	Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:01 PM
> To:	graham.travers <at> bt.com
> Cc:	April.Marine <at> nominum.com; ietf-weird <at> imc.org
> Subject:	Re: WIERD
> 
> 
> remove from this list
> 
> On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 graham.travers <at> bt.com wrote:
> 
> |Guys,
> |
> |I didn't attend the Adelaide meeting, and there was no WEIRD meeting in
> |Pittsburgh, so I've lost sight of where we are.
> |
> |Before deciding to wrap up the WG, I'd like to see a review of what
> progress
> |has been made against the list of objectives that we brainstormed for the
> |WG.  If they are all achieved, then termination may be the right option (
> |although I tend to agree with comments that education is a continuing
> |process ); if not, shouldn't we address what remains to be done ?
> |
> |I would prefer such a review to take place on this list, as I find the
> USWG
> |meetings usually clash with something else that I have to cover ( hence
> my
> |ususal no-show ).
> |
> |
> |Regards,
> |
> |Graham Travers
> |
> |IP Standards Co-ordinator aexaCT
> |*  Tel: +44 1359 235086
> |*  Mobile:  0780 8502536
> |> *    Fax:  +44 1359 235087
> |*  HW B279, P.O. Box 200, London, N18 1ZF
> |* - Email:  graham.travers <at> bt.com
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |> -----Original Message-----
> |> From:	April Marine [SMTP:April.Marine <at> nominum.com]
> |> Sent:	Wednesday, October 18, 2000 7:50 PM
> |> To:	WEIRD WG
> |> Subject:	San Diego
> |> 
> |> So, what do y'all think about meeting in San Diego?
> |> 
> |> At the last IETF, I asked for some feedback from USWG re whether they
> |> thought WEIRD should declare its experiment done and close down, or
> keep
> |> going.  The consensus was that many thought WEIRD should keep going.
> Of
> |> course, WEIRD didn't meet last time, so it's not like actually asking
> the
> |> WG itself, so I thought I would ask you yourself.
> |> 
> |> One thing that Chris and I have talked about is getting a co-chair.  Is
> it
> |> worth conning, uh, drafting someone to assist our WEIRD leader
> (couldn't
> |> resist that one :-), or do you all feel the WG is a loss?  
> |> 
> |> Should we schedule a mtg in San Diego to regroup? 
> |> 
> |> Should we put "WEIRD status" on the USWG agenda?
> |> 
> |> Anything we should consider that I haven't?
> |> 
> |> Feedback welcome and requested!
> |> 
> |> thanks,
> |> April
> |> 
> |>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> ----
> |> April Marine				
> |> Director of Client Services
> april.marine <at> nominum.com
> |> Nominum, Inc.					+1.650.779.6006
> |
> 
> 

Burke Chris-CCB007 | 19 Oct 2000 00:24

RE: San Diego

Co-Chair might work well here. I've been swamped with work and personal issues for a while now and we've made
very little progress, for which I apologize to the WG. I still think the work is worthwhile, and would
appreciate the help. Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: April Marine [mailto:April.Marine <at> nominum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 11:50 AM
To: WEIRD WG
Subject: San Diego

So, what do y'all think about meeting in San Diego?

At the last IETF, I asked for some feedback from USWG re whether they
thought WEIRD should declare its experiment done and close down, or keep
going.  The consensus was that many thought WEIRD should keep going.  Of
course, WEIRD didn't meet last time, so it's not like actually asking the
WG itself, so I thought I would ask you yourself.

One thing that Chris and I have talked about is getting a co-chair.  Is it
worth conning, uh, drafting someone to assist our WEIRD leader (couldn't
resist that one :-), or do you all feel the WG is a loss?  

Should we schedule a mtg in San Diego to regroup? 

Should we put "WEIRD status" on the USWG agenda?

Anything we should consider that I haven't?

Feedback welcome and requested!

thanks,
April

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April Marine				
Director of Client Services			april.marine <at> nominum.com
Nominum, Inc.					+1.650.779.6006

April Marine | 18 Oct 2000 20:49

San Diego

So, what do y'all think about meeting in San Diego?

At the last IETF, I asked for some feedback from USWG re whether they
thought WEIRD should declare its experiment done and close down, or keep
going.  The consensus was that many thought WEIRD should keep going.  Of
course, WEIRD didn't meet last time, so it's not like actually asking the
WG itself, so I thought I would ask you yourself.

One thing that Chris and I have talked about is getting a co-chair.  Is it
worth conning, uh, drafting someone to assist our WEIRD leader (couldn't
resist that one :-), or do you all feel the WG is a loss?  

Should we schedule a mtg in San Diego to regroup? 

Should we put "WEIRD status" on the USWG agenda?

Anything we should consider that I haven't?

Feedback welcome and requested!

thanks,
April

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April Marine				
Director of Client Services			april.marine <at> nominum.com
Nominum, Inc.					+1.650.779.6006

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