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Elias Sinderson | 1 Feb 2006 08:10

Re: [Bug 226] if matching and non-existant resources


bugzilla <at> soe.ucsc.edu wrote:

>http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=226
>------- Additional Comments From geoffrey.clemm <at> us.ibm.com  2006-01-30 07:34 -------
>  
>
>>Given an unmapped URL "/x", will the condition in
>>  If: </x> (Not <DAV:foobar>)
>>evaluate to true or false?
>>    
>>
>Since "If: </x> <DAV:foobar>" would evaluate to "false", unless we adjust the 
>definition of NOT, this has to evaluate to "true".
>  
>
Agreed.

>>To complicate things, what's the situation for a URL that is mapped, but for
>>which the authenticated principal lacks access rights?
>>    
>>
>As above, it would just be the opposite of what "If: </x> <DAV:foobar>" would 
>evaluate to.  But there remains the question of what "If: </x> <DAV:foobar>" 
>would evaluate to.  The guiding priciple here is probably avoiding exposing 
>information to unauthorized users.  So an inability to see the object should 
>probably be treated the same as the object not existing, so NOT would 
>return "true".
>
I also agree with the above -- especially wrt the security implications

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Joachim Feise | 1 Feb 2006 08:18

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Re: change notifications


Stefan Eissing wrote on 01/31/06 00:32:

> Dear WebDAV WG,
> 
> for me, and other readers expressed the same, the signal to noise ratio 
> on this mailing list is way too high. While the change notifications 
> probably provide most valuable information to some people, they are 
> junk mail to me.
> 
> Instead of requiring to add mail filtering rules by everyone who 
> follows this list, I propose to open a new mailling list just for the 
> bug change notifications. Interested people may subscribe to that while 
> we other mere mortals have a chance to follow the discussions 
> themselves more easily. That mailing list can be archived as well 
> should documentation of these notifications be desired.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Stefan
> 

+1

Julian Reschke | 1 Feb 2006 14:38

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Re: [Bug 226] if matching and non-existant resources


Elias Sinderson wrote:
> 
> bugzilla <at> soe.ucsc.edu wrote:
> 
>> http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=226
>> ------- Additional Comments From geoffrey.clemm <at> us.ibm.com  2006-01-30 
>> 07:34 -------
>>  
>>
>>> Given an unmapped URL "/x", will the condition in
>>>  If: </x> (Not <DAV:foobar>)
>>> evaluate to true or false?
>>>   
>> Since "If: </x> <DAV:foobar>" would evaluate to "false", unless we 
>> adjust the definition of NOT, this has to evaluate to "true".
>>  
>>
> Agreed.
> 
>>> To complicate things, what's the situation for a URL that is mapped, 
>>> but for
>>> which the authenticated principal lacks access rights?
>>>   
>> As above, it would just be the opposite of what "If: </x> 
>> <DAV:foobar>" would evaluate to.  But there remains the question of 
>> what "If: </x> <DAV:foobar>" would evaluate to.  The guiding priciple 
>> here is probably avoiding exposing information to unauthorized users.  
>> So an inability to see the object should probably be treated the same 
>> as the object not existing, so NOT would return "true".

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bugzilla | 1 Feb 2006 18:44

[Bug 46] URLs in Multistatus


http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=46

elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu changed:

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bugzilla | 1 Feb 2006 18:43

[Bug 46] URLs in Multistatus


http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=46

elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu changed:

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------- Additional Comments From elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu  2006-02-01 09:43 -------
Rough concensus that this simplification in the forms of acceptable relative
URIs (not allowing . or ..) is a generally good thing, erring on the side of
consistency in both request and response formats for URIs. Also with the hope
that client and server implementations will be more straightforward and / or
performant than otherwise.

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bugzilla | 1 Feb 2006 19:54

[Bug 161] EVALUATE_ALL_OF_IF_HEADER


http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=161

elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu changed:

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         AssignedTo|elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu          |julian.reschke <at> greenbytes.de

------- Additional Comments From elias <at> cse.ucsc.edu  2006-02-01 10:54 -------
Julian to "do battle" with the overall section and propose new text to be
reviewed by the WG.

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bugzilla | 1 Feb 2006 19:54

[Bug 161] EVALUATE_ALL_OF_IF_HEADER


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bugzilla | 1 Feb 2006 20:01

[Bug 179] DAV:no-lock


http://ietf.cse.ucsc.edu:8080/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=179

lisa <at> osafoundation.org changed:

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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |FIXED

------- Additional Comments From lisa <at> osafoundation.org  2006-02-01 11:01 -------
Agreed we can make the requirement more general -- the server MUST evaluate all
URIs that aren't lock tokens as "false".

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Cullen Jennings | 1 Feb 2006 22:17

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Document organization around Changes section


I would like to propose that WG arranging the Changes section of bis into
changes that apply to both server and client, things that apply mostly the
client is interested in, and things that mostly the server is interested in.
I recognize that there are many ways we could organize this section and have
talked to several people both in and out of WG about it. My hope is that if
we do it this way, it will become much clearer to everyone what exactly is
the best way to organize it even if this is not the best way.

Thanks, Cullen

Cullen Jennings | 2 Feb 2006 06:00

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Re: change notifications

I'm realize the Bug postings are a huge amount of "spam" on the list and I
apologize. I have considered changing it but I think it is going to be done
really soon now and it would take awhile to change. I'd like to ask everyone
to please just try and put up with it for another 3 weeks. (sort by subject
of "[Bug" and mass delete 

The bugzilla has been a useful tool for coordinating the work and passing it
back and forth between people as well as tracking the changes. The posting
to the list ensure that the data is properly archived, visible to all
participants, and subject to the IETF IPR rules. You are right I could get
another list set up but in the past this has been slow to get done (rumor
has it that it is faster now).

I think the volume will step down by a factor of 10 fairly soon - ether
because we WGLC bis or all the key contributors heads explode.

Cullen (with my chair hat on)

On 1/31/06 11:18 PM, "Joachim Feise" <jfeise <at> ics.uci.edu> wrote:

> 
> Stefan Eissing wrote on 01/31/06 00:32:
> 
>> Dear WebDAV WG,
>> 
>> for me, and other readers expressed the same, the signal to noise ratio
>> on this mailing list is way too high. While the change notifications
>> probably provide most valuable information to some people, they are
>> junk mail to me.

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