RE: BIND vs. non-movable resources in RFC3253, copy and cycles

Even in the absense of cycles, if you are doing a copy, and there are 
diamond graphs, 

    a
 /    \
b     c
  \   /
    d
   /||\

And d is actually a subtree, if the server does't reconstruct the diamond 
or flag the duplication,
you're going to duplicate the sub tree below d.  That might be expensive.

Do we have to require folks to reconstruct the graph?  Probably not, but 
we should
at least educate them about situations like this and encourage them to 
recreate the 
graph.

J.

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Destroying diamonds

> From: Clemm, Geoff
> > From: Clemm, Geoff
> > A COPY would have to check for any
> > resource that has multiple entries in its DAV:parent-set, to see
> > if it has already been copied (in which case a second binding to
> > the copy is created).
> This COPY behaviour makes sense, but can we really require it?
> Right now it seems completely legal to just create multiple plain
> new resources with same content and dead properties...
>If the binding relationships are acyclic, creating multiple
>plain new resources with the same content and dead properties
>seems reasonable to me (i.e. I don't think the spec should
>forbid it), but this would be a somewhat expensive approach if
>there are cycles (.
The server can't avoid to track his inodes on a deep COPY to be
aware of cycles. So it also can easily find diamonds which will
exist for a reason I guess.
I think it's dangerous to destroy these diamonds by duplicating
resources.
Usecases which depend on the diamonds will break. So at least a
means to keep them should be provided.
Therefore IMHO disallowing duplication is the clean and
also spacesaving solution.

Cheers, Edgar

Re: interop issue

> does anybody know if a plug-in or patch exists for netscape proxy server
> that extends HTTP1.1 (propfind etc.)
> 
> Thx. mucho in advance. 
> 
> lalit

Re: interop issue

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:46:56PM -0800, Lalit Jairath scrawled:
> does anybody know if a plug-in or patch exists for netscape proxy server
> that extends HTTP1.1 (propfind etc.)

Often there is an option that specifies which methods to support;
Squid's is "extension_methods" (IIRC).
	
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RE: interop issue

The following is from:
http://www.webdav.org/other/proxy.html

The last modofied date is Tue Mar 26 13:11:26 PST 2002.

Has something happened since then? If yes what, and how I can do it? That's
my question.

Any pointers are appreciated.

Thx. mucho.

lalit

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Proxy  					WebDAV Support? 
============================================================================

Microsoft Proxy 2.0 			Supported 
Apache 1.3 with mod_proxy 		Supported 
Netscape Proxy Server 			No
I don't know the particular version tested here. 

Greg Stein
Last modified: Tue Mar 26 13:11:26 PST 2002 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Stone [mailto:dstone <at> kde.org]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:08 PM
To: Lalit Jairath
Cc: 'w3c-dist-auth <at> w3.org'
Subject: Re: interop issue

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:46:56PM -0800, Lalit Jairath scrawled:
> does anybody know if a plug-in or patch exists for netscape proxy server
> that extends HTTP1.1 (propfind etc.)

Often there is an option that specifies which methods to support;
Squid's is "extension_methods" (IIRC).
	
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FW: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

I will put together the Agenda for the Atlanta meeting.  Here's some
issues that should be discussed.  Volunteers are *really needed* ( to
drive discussion on their selected topic) this meeting as I'm *really
swamped* myself!

RFC2518bis
 - Proposals for client forcing server auth challenge - Ilya?
 - Required support for ETags
 - If header evaluation/simplification proposals & compatibility -
Geoff?
Other drafts 
 - quota draft
 - Binding issues coming up on DL
 - allprop/include draft
Other issues
 - Impact of XML namespace changes -- Julian?
 - ACL submission status

I'm sure I've missed items so let me know.

--Lisa

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinara Suleymanova [mailto:dinaras <at> ietf.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:40 AM
To: wgchairs <at> ietf.org; bofchairs <at> ietf.org
Cc: iesg <at> ietf.org
Subject: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

Please start sending your group meetings' agendas.

Thanks,

Dinara Suleymanova

Fw: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

Julian--

   Should we discuss the property metadata draft:

http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-lat
est.html

at the Atlanta IETF?  I'm happy to drive discussion on the topic.

--Eric

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Dusseault" <lisa <at> xythos.com>
To: <w3c-dist-auth <at> w3c.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:10 PM
Subject: FW: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

>
> I will put together the Agenda for the Atlanta meeting.  Here's some
> issues that should be discussed.  Volunteers are *really needed* ( to
> drive discussion on their selected topic) this meeting as I'm *really
> swamped* myself!
>
>
> RFC2518bis
>  - Proposals for client forcing server auth challenge - Ilya?
>  - Required support for ETags
>  - If header evaluation/simplification proposals & compatibility -
> Geoff?
> Other drafts
>  - quota draft
>  - Binding issues coming up on DL
>  - allprop/include draft
> Other issues
>  - Impact of XML namespace changes -- Julian?
>  - ACL submission status
>
> I'm sure I've missed items so let me know.
>
> --Lisa
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dinara Suleymanova [mailto:dinaras <at> ietf.org]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:40 AM
> To: wgchairs <at> ietf.org; bofchairs <at> ietf.org
> Cc: iesg <at> ietf.org
> Subject: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF
>
> Please start sending your group meetings' agendas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dinara Suleymanova
>
>
>
>
>

RE: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

> From: w3c-dist-auth-request <at> w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request <at> w3.org]On Behalf Of Eric Sedlar
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: Julian Reschke
> Cc: w3c-dist-auth <at> w3.org; Lisa Dusseault
> Subject: Fw: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF
>
>
>
> Julian--
>
>    Should we discuss the property metadata draft:
>
> http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-property-dat
> atypes-lat
> est.html
>
> at the Atlanta IETF?  I'm happy to drive discussion on the topic.

Eric,

that would be great. Let me know if I can/should assist in preparing slides.

Note that [1] and [2] are currently (almost) identical, and that [2] is the
version that has been submitted as Internet Draft.

Julian

[1]
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-la
test.html>
[2]
<http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-reschke-webdav-property-datatypes-03
.html>

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RE: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF

> From: w3c-dist-auth-request <at> w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-dist-auth-request <at> w3.org]On Behalf Of Lisa Dusseault
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:10 AM
> To: w3c-dist-auth <at> w3c.org
> Subject: FW: WG Agendas for the 55th IETF
>
>
>
> I will put together the Agenda for the Atlanta meeting.  Here's some
> issues that should be discussed.  Volunteers are *really needed* ( to
> drive discussion on their selected topic) this meeting as I'm *really
> swamped* myself!
>
>
> RFC2518bis
>  - Proposals for client forcing server auth challenge - Ilya?
>  - Required support for ETags
>  - If header evaluation/simplification proposals & compatibility -
> Geoff?
> Other drafts
>  - quota draft
>  - Binding issues coming up on DL
>  - allprop/include draft
> Other issues
>  - Impact of XML namespace changes -- Julian?
>  - ACL submission status
>
> I'm sure I've missed items so let me know.

Lisa,

if you need help/assistance in preparing

>  - allprop/include draft

and

>  - Impact of XML namespace changes -- Julian?

(which should be XML 1.1/ XML namespaces 1.1 changes, right?), please let me
know.

Julian