Proposed agenda for URLREG

OK, I haven't had a lot of feedback, so I'm going to put this out this
morning and, if I haven't had any more input, I'll submit it by tomorrow
morning.  

URLREG Working Group
Tuesday December 9, 1300-1400

	Review current draft by Masinter
(draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-00.txt).  

	[Dan Zigmond had proposed a doc at the Munich meeting -- Dan, if
that's ready, please let me know so we can include it for discussion.]  

	Discuss draft by Goland (draft-goland-url-dns-00.txt) - how does
this fit into WG's stated goals?  Is the concept of 'private' vs.
'public' URLs useful, and does it raise any other issues?   

	Discuss mechanism for implementation of URL scheme guidelines:
standing committee?  Augment existing standards process?  Perpetual
mailing list?  

	Briefly discuss new related items, e.g. new URL schemes proposed
that challenge existing assumptions or extend definitions.  

	Review charter and schedule.  

Let me know, folks....
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Ian King <iking <at> microsoft.com>
Internet Services Business Unit

Agenda for URLREG at 40th IETF Meeting

AGENDA for 40th IETF Meeting, Washington DC
URLREG Working Group
Tuesday December 9, 1300-1400

*	Review current draft by Masinter
(draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-00.txt).  

*	Discuss draft by Goland (draft-goland-url-dns-00.txt) - how does
this fit into WG's stated goals?  Is the concept of 'private' vs.
'public' URLs useful, and does it raise any other issues?   

*	Discuss mechanism for implementation of URL scheme guidelines:
standing committee?  Augment existing standards process?  Perpetual
mailing list?  

*	Briefly discuss new related items, e.g. new URL schemes proposed
that challenge existing assumptions or extend definitions.  

*	Review charter and schedule.  

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Ian King, Software QA Lead <iking <at> microsoft.com>
Internet Services Business Unit
MICROSOFT CORPORATION

Re: Agenda for URLREG at 40th IETF Meeting

I think we might want to reserve some time for URL Internationalization,
because the issue is bound to come up anyway.

Does anyone have a complete list of URL schemes? These
are the ones I found in a quick list:

RFCs: z3950 [2056] ldap [RFC1959], vemmi [RFC2122], imap [RFC2192], nfs
[RFC2224], cid, mid [RFC2111]

I hope the HTTP spec includes a URL definition

I found Internet drafts for:

 ftp, news, data, mailto ,gsms, telephone:, fax:, modem:, service, lpr, printer,
tv, ldap, whois++, sip, sips, sipt, sipu, rwhois, videotex

Larry
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http://www.parc.xerox.com/masinter

Re: Agenda for URLREG at 40th IETF Meeting

I think we might want to reserve some time for URL Internationalization,
because the issue is bound to come up anyway.

Does anyone have a complete list of URL schemes? These
are the ones I found in a quick list:

RFCs: z3950 [2056] ldap [RFC1959], vemmi [RFC2122], imap [RFC2192], nfs
[RFC2224], cid, mid [RFC2111]

I hope the HTTP spec includes a URL definition

I found Internet drafts for:

 ftp, news, data, mailto ,gsms, telephone:, fax:, modem:, service, lpr, printer,
tv, ldap, whois++, sip, sips, sipt, sipu, rwhois, videotex

Larry
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http://www.parc.xerox.com/masinter

Re: Agenda for URLREG at 40th IETF Meeting

The 'service' scheme is defined in RFC2165.  It is being refined in the
internet draft which is currently available.  So the scheme is already
a proposed standard.

Erik Guttman

URL Registration Proceedures WG Minutes

-- URL registration Procedures WG --
Meeting: Tuesday, Dec. 9, 1997, 1300-1400EST.

*** note, these minutes are incomplete and paraphrased, ***
*** apologies for inaccuracies, omissions ***

http://www.imc.org/ietf-url

ietf-url <at> imc.org
ietf-url-request <at> imc.org (to subscribe)

Chair: Rich Petke (r.petke <at> csi.compuserve.com)
       Ian King (iking <at> microsoft.com)

Rich Presented information about the goals of group.
Talked about being behind on dates as per charter.

-- URL registration guide --

Larry has finished final mods on this.  This will be proposed
as last call.

draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-00.txt
editors: Larry Masinter (masinter <at> parc.xerox.com)
         Dan Zigmond (djz <at> corp.webtv.net)

-- URL registration process --

options:
- everything standards track

[Fwd: draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt]

I posted this last week, but I haven't seen an Internet Drafts
announcement. Just in case it fell into the IETF-week 'black hole',
I'm re-sending it.

Larry

From: Larry Masinter <masinter <at> parc.xerox.com>
Subject: draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt
Date: 1997-12-10 06:28:16 GMT

draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt

INTERNET-DRAFT						Larry Masinter
<draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt>                  Harald T. Alvestrand
December 9, 1997                                           Dan Zigmond

                  Guidelines for new URL Schemes

Status of this Memo

   This document is an Internet-Draft.  Internet-Drafts are working
   documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas,
   and its working groups.  Note that other groups may also distribute
   working documents as Internet-Drafts.

Comments on minutes?

Does anyone have any comments on the minutes?

Alec Dun did a great job of posting them to the list before the week was
over but some holes exist in them.  Anyone who wishes to have their views
recorded please post your corrections/clarifications to the list.

Thanks.
Rich Petke (r.petke <at> csi.compuserve.com)

I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Uniform Resource Locator Registration 
Procedures Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Guidelines for new URL Schemes
	Author(s)	: H. Alvestrand, L. Masinter, D. Zigmond
	Filename	: draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt
	Pages		: 5
	Date		: 22-Dec-97
	
   A Uniform Resource Locator (URL) is a compact string representation
   of the location for a resource that is available via the Internet.
   [RFC URL-SYNTAX] defines the general syntax and semantics of URLs.
   This document provides guidelines for the definition of new URL
   schemes and describes the process by which they are registered.

Internet-Drafts are available by anonymous FTP.  Login with the username
"anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address.  After logging in,
type "cd internet-drafts" and then
	"get draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt".
A URL for the Internet-Draft is:
ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt

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WG Last Call - Guidelines Document

At the December IETF meeting in Washington, DC, the consensus of those
in attendance was to advance the guidelines draft to "WG Last Call"
status as soon as a few minor edits were made to it.  Larry made the
edits (thanks Larry), and the updated draft has been published.

In reviewing the new draft I found a few minor typos (mostly in the area
of the references to the URL/URI syntax document), a few sentences
that should be re-worded slightly to aid in the translation of the
document into other languages, and outdated addresses for two of the
authors.  Nothing that would change the meaning of anything in the
document.

Before these final edits are made I'd like to put the document forward
to the WG for a "last call" to see if there are any other issues.
Given the holiday season, let's shoot for a 3 week last call period
rather than the traditional 2 weeks.  In other words, if you have an
issue, please post it to the list before January 20, 1998.  The sooner
an issue is posted, the sooner we can resolve it.

Dan Zigmond is authoring a draft of the BCP for the registration
procedures and I'd like to have the guidelines document out of the
way before we start discussions on the BCP, if at all possible.

For those who missed the announcement of the guidelines draft, here
it is:

	Title		: Guidelines for new URL Schemes
	Author(s)	: H. Alvestrand, L. Masinter, D. Zigmond
	Filename	: draft-ietf-urlreg-guide-01.txt
	Pages		: 5