Carsten Bormann | 14 Nov 21:35 2014

Replaced active drafts

I just had a look at http://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lo/ to check the active drafts.
This is a very useful resource, so it is worth thinking about its usability.

Right now, the active drafts view is cluttered by this replaced-by information:



draft-ietf-6lowpan-btle
replaced by draft-ietf-6lo-btle -12 2013-02-12  
draft-ietf-6man-6lobac
replaced by draft-ietf-6lo-6lobac -01 2012-03-12  
draft-mariager-6lowpan-v6over-dect-ule
replaced by draft-ietf-6lo-dect-ule -03 2013-07-15  


This is probably useful as long as the replaced drafts are themselves not too old.
But a reminder that a 2012 draft used to have a different working group than the current draft is probably not needed here and reduces clarity.

Do other users of this page care about this?

Grüße, Carsten

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Adrian Farrel | 8 Nov 18:50 2014
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I-D submissions bug? Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp-00.txt

Hi,

Not sure whether this is an AMS tool or a tools team tool...

It looks very much like the authors of
draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp-00 were able to post it without
needing chair approval.

Some time back postings of draft-ietf-foo-bar were always held for approval by
the chairs of the foo working group. There was an email sent to the chairs and a
link they needed to go to for approval. There was also a facility or
pre-approval.

This I-D appears to have got through the net (although we still need to shine a
bright light into the eyes of the chairs to make sure they are telling the truth
;-)

Since, in this case, the I-D is misnamed and should not appear as a WG I-D, it
is a bit untidy (there was no malice involved, I think, and the chairs are
handling the situation).

Cheers,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
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> julien.meuric <at> orange.com
> Sent: 07 November 2014 16:47
> To: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp <at> tools.ietf.org
> Cc: pce <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp-
> 00.txt
> 
> Authors of the aforementioned document,
> 
> In file names posted into the datatracker, "draft-ietf-xxx" is a
> reserved string for internet drafts endorsed as a work item by IETF
> working groups. Your draft is *not a WG document*. As a result, we have
> marked it as dead. If you want to submit a proposal to the IETF, you
> should publish a file named "draft-<my individual name/string>-xxx".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> JP & Julien
> 
> 
> -------- Message transféré --------
> Date :     Mon, 27 Oct 2014 07:35:06 -0700
> De :     internet-drafts <at> ietf.org
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>   This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element Working
> Group of the IETF.
> 
>          Title           : Cooperative Stateful Path Computation Element
> (PCE) for Inter-Domain Inter-Vendor PCE-initiated LSP Setup
>          Authors         : Xiaoping Zheng
>                            Nan Hua
>                            Wangyang Liu
>                            Bingkun Zhou
>                            Guoying Zhang
>      Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp-00.txt
>      Pages           : 12
>      Date            : 2014-10-27
> 
> Abstract:
>     A stateful Path Computation Element (PCE) maintains the information
>     of Label Switched Path (LSP) and resource availability within a
>     domain, so multiple stateful PCEs are able to provide traffic
>     engineering inter-domain routing through cooperating with each other.
>     This document introduces the applicability of cooperative stateful
>     PCE for establishing inter-domain inter-vendor LSP which is initiated
>     by PCE.
> 
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp/
> 
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-inter-domain-lsp-00
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Michael Richardson | 3 Nov 21:21 2014
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http://sandbox.ietf.org


Hi, http://sandbox.ietf.org redirects to https://sandbox.ietf.org/
but:

Issued On       7/22/13
Expires On      8/11/14

it has an expired certificate.

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Martin Thomson | 30 Oct 05:02 2014
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Github template for drafts

I've been using github for managing my drafts for a while now.  Github
has been particularly successful in attracting and managing some
fairly broad collaboration in HTTP/2, and several other working groups
are now successfully using the model.

I've prepared a template that makes putting a repository together
extremely simple:

  https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template

This has now been used successfully by several people, some of whom
had no background in this at all.  Now I'm sharing this more widely,
since it seems to be pretty stable.

A feature of note is that it can integrate with a continuous
integration system, so you can't bust a draft without noticing
quickly.  It can also automatically generate a nice web page, e.g.,
https://unicorn-wg.github.io/sslv3-diediedie/

And it's on github, so of course it's open to new contributions.

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Chris Morrow | 29 Oct 14:49 2014
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'edit shepherds document' link failure?

Say from this example:
  <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-as-migration/>

clicking on the little pencil by 'Shepherd Write-Up:' which is:

<http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-as-migration/shepherdwriteup/?

and ... I get the empty shepherds document page with 'edit', clicking on
'edit' gets me:

"The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete
your request. Either the server is overloaded or there was an error in a
script used to generate the requested page. In case this was an overload
problem or other temporary error, you may want to try again in a little
while.

A failure report with details about what happened has been sent to the
server administrators. It would be helpful if you would file a bug
report with additional information at the IETF database issue tracker, too"

guess it's back to the oldschool email-iesg-secretary path?

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Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang | 28 Oct 16:36 2014
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reply button on ietf mail archive

Hi,

For each archived message, could there be a button so that one could "reply" to a posted message? I don't keep
all mailing list messages, and sometimes I need to go back to an archived one and reply to it. Currently
there is no convenient way to do it.

I suppose this is not an uncommon situation people may run into. How do you deal with it?

Thanks.
Jeffrey

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Michael Richardson | 28 Oct 15:17 2014
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google thinks etherpad is phising


Several people (nomcom call yesterday, 6tisch security team this morning)
get this in the past day from etherpad.tools.ietf.org:
        http://www.sandelman.ca/tmp/mcrcapture/6969.2014-10-28/capture1.png

specifically, a warning that the site is a phising site.

I expect that it's a false positive, but in order to get the details, you
have to connect to the Google web site manager portal to find out.

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Michael Richardson | 20 Oct 15:41 2014
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datatracker links to other formats


The datatracker has links to other versions:
  Other versions:	plain text, xml, pdf, html

which links to (for instance):
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.txt
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.xml
http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.pdf
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02

The last link goes to the <pre> wrapped .txt version from tools.ietf.org,
which yes, has a link to the HTML formatted xml2rfc version on it.

I'm wondering if there is a reason, or simply history, why the "html"
version doesn't go to the HTML version directly?

I'm also wondering if there is a reason why the www.ietf.org URL
is used for plain/xml rather than the tools version.

I guess I think about all of this partly from the point of view
of web and browser caches, but also from the point of view that I'm still
irked that it's not all URNs, and that the closest copy is really on my local
disk...

I also wonder if there is some reason, given the presence of the "show me the
whole thing" cookie setting for the datatracker, why that doesn't result in
a 302 to the ?includes_text=1 URL.  The reason this matters is because I
tend to pass that URL to my tablet offline reader (getpocket), although I think
I'll be using the tools.ietf.org HTML copy in future.  (Sadly, pocket still
can't display cached .txt URLs properly.)

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Yaron Sheffer | 30 Sep 18:09 2014
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Outdated I-D reference

Hi,

I am running xml2rfc 2.4.8 locally, on Ubuntu. When referencing my own I-D.ietf-uta-tls-attacks, it insists on generating a ref to version -01 of the draft, even though -04 is available (and appears on http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/). The online xml2rfc tool works fine. Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Richard Barnes | 24 Sep 17:56 2014
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Crash in wiki on tools.ietf.org

STR:
1. Navigate to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/3rdIEEE802andIETFleaders
2. Click the "login" link

In addition, if I go to another page in the IESG wiki and log in, I
still don't appear as logged in on this page.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 441,
in send_error
    data, 'text/html')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/chrome.py", line
825, in render_template
    message = req.session.pop('chrome.%s.%d' % (type_, i))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 216,
in __getattr__
    value = self.callbacks[name](self)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 306,
in _get_session
    return Session(self.env, req)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
211, in __init__
    self.promote_session(sid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
319, in promote_session
    self.bake_cookie(0) # expire the cookie
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
215, in bake_cookie
    assert self.sid, 'Session ID not set'
AssertionError: Session ID not set

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Adrian Farrel | 19 Sep 11:44 2014
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Wondering about moving some aliases to be real lists

Hi,

In RTG we have been happily using rtg-chairs <at> ietf.org as a good communication
tool for the chairs to share information and ideas. However, this is an alias
not a list, so there is no archive.

We're wondering about migrating to an archived list with restricted membership
and limited access to the archive. 

Does anyone have any thoughts for or against?
One question is whether the membership of a mailman list can be automated.
Consider, for example, that the IESG list is manually updated as IESG members
come and go.

Thanks,
Adrian

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