gmane.ietf.tools

Jari Arkko | 16 Aug 07:05

tools wg pages broken?

I'm seeing the tools wg pages fail in a random fashion. For instance, if 
I access

I get the usual framing structure correctly, but the document frame 
contains just this:

"An error occurred at this point in the web-page generation. An error 
report has been sent to the webmaster. If this error isn't fixed within 
48 hours, please contact the web page author directly. "

However, curiously, this does not always happen. *Sometimes* I get the 
real thing.

Jari

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Tony Hansen | 12 Aug 04:48

abnf extracting code?

Does anyone have some code that does a good job of extracting ABNF 
information from an RFC/I-D?

If we can find some code that does a decent job, an idea for 
tools.ietf.org would be

	tools.ietf.org/abnf/RFC#

It would work just like tools.ietf.org/html/, but show the extracted 
ABNF code from the given RFC or I-D.

	Tony Hansen
	tony <at> att.com

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Paul Hoffman | 4 Aug 17:40

Python code for extracting title from an RFC or Draft?

Greetings again. I looked on the tools site and don't see any source 
code. I would love a tool that, given a draft or RFC, extracts the 
title from the top of the first page. (Extra points for pulling out 
the abstract). If I have to do it as "given the filename, look in 
1id-abstracts.txt or rfc-index.xml", that's fine, but I would like 
the code for that as well. No wheel-recreating, if not needed.

As a side note, it seems odd that the code y'all have created isn't 
on tools.ietf.org...

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium

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Henrik Levkowetz | 29 Jul 19:31

Re: Errata

Hi Frank,

On 2008-07-08 16:59 Frank Ellermann said the following:

...
> Maybe something on your side lost the errata-urls,
> I add a complete list as of today (667 RFCs) below.
...

I believe I've fixed the problem on the tools servers,
and errata annotations should be correct again.  If you
notice any http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfcXXXX which doesn't
have an Errata link, but should have, please let me know.

Best,

	Henrik

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Frank Ellermann | 19 Jul 20:44

IETF tools list issues (update)

Hi, an updated list of issues from my POV:

* the RFC-I problem was fixed (= ietf.org unlisted),
  an update sent via GMaNe might be trapped in the
  moderation queue or in a meeting with Dave Null:
  <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/11839>

* various errata are still AWOL, for a complete list
  of 667 RFCs with reported errata as of 2008-07-08
  see <g502oa$btu$1 <at> ger.gmane.org>, available in
  <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.tools/1109> 
  <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tools-discuss/current/msg01563.html>

* the "challenge" wasn't identified as challenge by
  GMaNe, I'm not sure if that is a bug or a feature
  in practice.  Here is the "raw" challenge message:
  <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.tools/1114/raw>

  RFC 3834 issues in this "challenge":
  1 - The envelope sender address was the ordinary list
      address, the list bounce address might be better,
      see RFC 3834 chapter 3.3
  2 - There was no OPTIONAL (RFC 3834 chapter 3.1.8)
      Precedence: list (or similar) header field
  3 - There was no RECOMMENDED (3.1.7) Auto-Submitted
      header field 
  4 - There were no RECOMMENDED (3.1.6) References and
      In-Reply-To header fields with the Message-ID of
      the challenged article, IMO that would be good
  5 - There was no OPTIONAL (3.1.5) Auto: subject tag

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Frank Ellermann | 18 Jul 12:03

IETF tools list issues (was: Errata)

Hi, something with the IETF Tools list doesn't work.

GMaNe used to be subscribed as whatever <at> gmane.org,
and that worked at least until 2008-07-08:
<http://article.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.tools/1109/raw>

GMaNe identified this mail injected via GMaNe as spam.
That's kind of odd, if it's really spam, why forward
it to the list ?  The score says:

| X-Spam-Report: 5.5 points;
| * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record
| * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
| *  2.5 UNIQUE_WORDS BODY: Message body has many words used only once
| *  0.4 DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE RBL: Envelope sender in abuse.rfc-ignorant.org
| *  1.4 DNS_FROM_RFC_POST RBL: Envelope sender in postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org
| *  1.2 PRIORITY_NO_NAME Message has priority, but no X-Mailer/User-Agent

Unfortunately the IETF is listed as postmaster and
abuse ignorant since 2008-02-22, I didn't know that.

That my UA has no X-Mailer/User-Agent is IMO a bogey:

When posting via GMaNe the UA is a "Newsreader", and
it has a X-Newsreader, as "specified" in the NetNews
RFC (actually as "deprecated", and this RFC is still
waiting for its number, but that's another story. 

I've reported this "spam" as "unspam" while checking
something else:

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Lars Eggert | 18 Jul 10:14

historic mailing list archives

Hi,

the mailing list search engine I emailed about earlier
(http://people.nokia.net/~lars/ietfsearch.html 
) only finds emails that are available in an HTML-ified archive  
(hypermail, mhonarc, pipermail, etc.)

Although most of our current mailing lists have such archives (esp.  
all the ones hosted on ietf.org), many historic working groups have  
archives that are only available in mbox format. If they are available  
at all - when I checked the screen scraped archive URLs on http://tools.ietf.org/wg/concluded 
  I was shocked how many are unvailable. It looks like we're in  
serious danger to loose some of our institutional memory.

So, I'm thinking about starting some concerted effort to collect and  
HTMLify the archives of historic IETF mailing lists. For example, I  
grabbed quite large number of them from
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/network/docs/ietf.org/concluded-wg-ietf-mail-archive/ 
, and I'm getting ready to convert them via mhonarc.

Questions:

   - do people think this is a worthwhile effort?

   - where should I collect the archives and host the HTML from?
     (I'd prefer something at ietf.org rather than my own server)

Lars

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tools-discuss | 18 Jul 10:06

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Lars Eggert | 18 Jul 08:58

Re: search engine for IETF mailing list archives

Hi

On 2007-4-17, at 16:04, ext Lars Eggert wrote:
> I used the Google Coop system to hack together a custom search  
> engine IETF WG list archives and some other IETF/IRTF lists: http://tinyurl.com/2f79lm

FYI, I've recently made some pretty massive changes to this, by screen- 
scraping the tools pages for mailing list archive information for both  
current and historic WGs and using that to generate URL search  
patterns (instead of doing this by hand).

Let me know if anything is broken: http://people.nokia.net/~lars/ietfsearch.html

Lars

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Lars Eggert | 16 Jul 16:21

Dublin code sprint?

Hi,

I assume there will be a code sprint again in Dublin?

Lars

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Al Morton | 15 Jul 21:48

Incorrect Chair listed on IPPM page

Hi Henrick and all,

I just noticed that the ippm wg page on the tools site
lists Guy Almes as chair! This was correct back in 1998
or so, but Guy hasn't been chair for a long time.

Henk and Matt are the current chairs.

Al

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