Michael Richardson | 20 Oct 15:41 2014
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datatracker links to other formats


The datatracker has links to other versions:
  Other versions:	plain text, xml, pdf, html

which links to (for instance):
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.txt
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.xml
http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02.pdf
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-nmrg-an-gap-analysis-02

The last link goes to the <pre> wrapped .txt version from tools.ietf.org,
which yes, has a link to the HTML formatted xml2rfc version on it.

I'm wondering if there is a reason, or simply history, why the "html"
version doesn't go to the HTML version directly?

I'm also wondering if there is a reason why the www.ietf.org URL
is used for plain/xml rather than the tools version.

I guess I think about all of this partly from the point of view
of web and browser caches, but also from the point of view that I'm still
irked that it's not all URNs, and that the closest copy is really on my local
disk...

I also wonder if there is some reason, given the presence of the "show me the
whole thing" cookie setting for the datatracker, why that doesn't result in
a 302 to the ?includes_text=1 URL.  The reason this matters is because I
tend to pass that URL to my tablet offline reader (getpocket), although I think
I'll be using the tools.ietf.org HTML copy in future.  (Sadly, pocket still
can't display cached .txt URLs properly.)
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Yaron Sheffer | 30 Sep 18:09 2014
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Outdated I-D reference

Hi,

I am running xml2rfc 2.4.8 locally, on Ubuntu. When referencing my own I-D.ietf-uta-tls-attacks, it insists on generating a ref to version -01 of the draft, even though -04 is available (and appears on http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/public/rfc/bibxml3/). The online xml2rfc tool works fine. Any ideas?

Thanks,
    Yaron
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Richard Barnes | 24 Sep 17:56 2014
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Crash in wiki on tools.ietf.org

STR:
1. Navigate to http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/3rdIEEE802andIETFleaders
2. Click the "login" link

In addition, if I go to another page in the IESG wiki and log in, I
still don't appear as logged in on this page.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 441,
in send_error
    data, 'text/html')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/chrome.py", line
825, in render_template
    message = req.session.pop('chrome.%s.%d' % (type_, i))
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/api.py", line 216,
in __getattr__
    value = self.callbacks[name](self)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/main.py", line 306,
in _get_session
    return Session(self.env, req)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
211, in __init__
    self.promote_session(sid)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
319, in promote_session
    self.bake_cookie(0) # expire the cookie
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/trac/web/session.py", line
215, in bake_cookie
    assert self.sid, 'Session ID not set'
AssertionError: Session ID not set

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Adrian Farrel | 19 Sep 11:44 2014
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Wondering about moving some aliases to be real lists

Hi,

In RTG we have been happily using rtg-chairs <at> ietf.org as a good communication
tool for the chairs to share information and ideas. However, this is an alias
not a list, so there is no archive.

We're wondering about migrating to an archived list with restricted membership
and limited access to the archive. 

Does anyone have any thoughts for or against?
One question is whether the membership of a mailman list can be automated.
Consider, for example, that the IESG list is manually updated as IESG members
come and go.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Richard Barnes | 16 Sep 21:06 2014
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RFC search and mixed content

The search page at https://tools.ietf.org/html/ is broken, due to the
following Google assets being loaded over HTTP:

"http://www.google.com/afsonline/show_afs_search.js"
"http://www.google.com/coop/cse/brand?form=searchbox_011177064926444307064%3Arsqif7nmmi0"

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Paul Hoffman | 8 Sep 04:08 2014

Opening tickets

Greetings yet again. After I sent that last message to this list, I see from the footer of the message that I
was supposed to instead turn in a trouble ticket, so I did: http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues/ticket/2

Yes, it is only the second ticket in the ticketing system, and #1 was a test message.

Is that thing on?

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Paul Hoffman | 8 Sep 03:20 2014

Changing the location of a closed WG's archive

Greetings. https://tools.ietf.org/wg/openpgp/ says that the mail archive is at
http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/; it should instead point to
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/openpgp, which is the IETF-run list.

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Adrian Farrel | 3 Sep 10:37 2014
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Re: email to routing-discussion <at> ietf.org

Curtis,

I'm tickled! 

Also assuming that you did not get blown off by the tools-discuss list (or maybe
you did?). I think that might be an important thing to note for the Tools team.

Firstly, I just checked that you are correctly subscribed to the list from this
address. That all looks good.

So the problem is reverse look-up. Curiously, and this is why I'm amused, my ISP
is ferocious on reverse look-up and bounces a few long-time IETFers because they
use multiple servers with the same domain name but different IP addresses and
don't fix up their DNS advertisements correctly. However, obviously I have
received your email address so I am going to suggest that your DNS is perfect
but that the tools server is having trouble doing the reverse lookup of your
IPv6 address.

FWIW, where I am in Slovenia I see....

c:>nslookup maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com
Server:  dnslj1.t-2.net
Address:  84.255.209.79

Name:    maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com
Address:  2001:470:88e6:3::232

c:>nslookup 2001:470:88e6:3::232
Server:  dnslj1.t-2.net
Address:  84.255.209.79

*** dnslj1.t-2.net can't find 2001:470:88e6:3::232: Server failed

But I think that is just the local DNS server being v4 only.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Villamizar [mailto:curtis <at> ipv6.occnc.com]
> Sent: 03 September 2014 03:48
> To: Adrian Farrel; Alia Atlas
> Cc: curtis <at> ipv6.occnc.com; tools-discuss <at> ietf.org
> Subject: email to routing-discussion <at> ietf.org
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian, Alia,
> 
> I'm not sure who to go to with this problem.  I copied tools-discuss.
> 
> It seems you now have IPv6 on the mail servers but the MTA can't deal
> with IPv6 addresses in the headers.
> 
> Below are error messages in a bounce email.  Below that are the
> forward and reverse DNS entries it complained about (which are fine).
> 
> Full headers on request.
> 
> Curtis
> 
> 
> 
>   This is a MIME-encapsulated message
> 
>   --s82JJ2Jx021712.1409685548/maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com
> 
>   The original message was received at Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:08:20 -0400
>   (EDT)
>   from harbor3.v6ds.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:88e6:3::239]
> 
>      ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>   <routing-discussion <at> ietf.org>
>       (reason: 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse
>       hostname,
>    [2001:470:88e6:3::232])
> 
>      ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>   ... while talking to mail.ietf.org.:
>   >>> DATA
>   <<< 450 4.7.1 Client host rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname,
>   [2001:470:88e6:3::232]
>   <routing-discussion <at> ietf.org>... Deferred: 450 4.7.1 Client host
>   rejected: cannot find your reverse hostname, [2001:470:88e6:3::232]
> 
> 
> 
> %  host maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com
> maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com has IPv6 address 2001:470:88e6:3::232
> 
> 
> %  host -t ptr 2001:470:88e6:3::232
> 2.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.0.0.0.6.e.8.8.0.7.4.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa
>  domain name pointer maildrop2.v6ds.occnc.com.

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Paul Hoffman | 2 Sep 18:28 2014

https: redirects to http: for tools.ietf.org?

Greetings again. I am about to create a tool that is writing a bunch of URIs for tools.ietf.org. I note that
https: URLs redirect to http:. Is that a temporary glitch? Is the idea of having the tools site running TLS
imminent, or longer-term?

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Paul Hoffman | 1 Sep 19:47 2014

WG Wiki through subversion?

Greetings again. I want to create a page for a WG wiki that will involve some pretty significant table
editing. Thus, I want to be able to do that with my computer's text editor, not editing on the Wiki web page.
Is it possible to put one or more of the pages on the wiki in the WG's subversion repo? If not, is there some way
I can easily do the editing remotely?

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Paul Hoffman | 18 Aug 20:24 2014

Long delay in tools.ietf.org and new drafts

Greetings again. I thought that tools.ietf.org was supposed to show new drafts within 15 minutes of
publication, but draft-hoffman-dns-tls-stub-00 is now many minutes older than that (:-)) and it still
gets a Not Found. Is this me misunderstanding the SLA, or an operational bug?

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