internet-drafts | 15 Apr 13:48 2015
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New Version Notification - draft-klensin-smtp-521code-06.txt


A new version (-06) has been submitted for draft-klensin-smtp-521code:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-klensin-smtp-521code-06.txt

The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

Diff from previous version:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-klensin-smtp-521code-06

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Pearl Liang via RT | 14 Apr 19:59 2015

[IANA #817403] Evaluation: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt> to Proposed Standard

IESG:

IANA NOT OK.  Comments in tracker
IANA Actions - YES

1) A question posted in the tracker and in the IANA Last Call comments.

2) Expert review is depended on a clarification to the question.

 
Thank you,

Pearl Liang
ICANN

On Mon Apr 06 15:53:25 2015, iesg-secretary <at> ietf.org wrote:
> Evaluation for <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt> can be found at
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/
> 
> Last call to expire on: 2015-04-02 00:00 PDT
> 
> 
> Please return the full line with your position.
> 
> Yes  No-Objection  Discuss  Abstain
> Barry Leiba          [ X ]     [   ]      [   ]    [   ]
> 
> 
> Needs 9 more YES or NO OBJECTION positions to pass.
> 
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IETF Secretariat | 9 Apr 20:10 2015
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ID Tracker State Update Notice: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>

IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent::Point Raised - writeup needed from IESG Evaluation
ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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Suzanne Woolf | 8 Apr 14:35 2015
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Review of draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05

Hi,

As the boilerplate sez….I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's 
ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These 
comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of the 
IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews 
during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments 
just like any other last call comments. 

(With apologies to the author and my ADs that it's late; I read the draft and then spaced actually shipping
the review after Dallas.)

This is ready to go, with some editorial nits (below). 

The IETF Last Call had a few comments, mostly on a specific clarification; they were supportive of
publication. There is a fairly lengthy and substantial comment from Murray Kucherawy that it appears
John agreed to incorporate in the next rev, explaining a little more closely the relationship between
what this draft suggests and RFC 5321 regarding dropped connections. I thought Murray's explanation of
his suggestion was compelling enough that I'd like to see the change incorporated.

(I was also surprised that "This document updates RFC 5321 to add descriptions and text for two reply codes,
but there is no registry for those codes." The workaround looks OK to me from an operational perspective
but I'm not an SMTP implementer.)

This document is a useful update to the standard to support some elements of current practice and at least
one expected separate update also reflecting practice in the field (nullMX).

Nits:

Sec. 3: 
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Stephen Farrell | 8 Apr 13:44 2015
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Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05: (with COMMENT)

Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05: No Objection

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Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.

The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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COMMENT:
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Sections 3 and 5.1 suggest different text strings for 521 (server vs. 
host). I'd say just one would be better.

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IETF Secretariat | 6 Apr 17:52 2015
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ID Tracker State Update Notice: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>

IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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DraftTracker Mail System | 2 Apr 09:08 2015
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Last Call Expired: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>


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I-D: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>
ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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IETF Secretariat | 1 Apr 21:05 2015
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ID Tracker State Update Notice: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>

IANA review state changed to IANA - Not OK
ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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Amanda Baber via RT | 1 Apr 20:21 2015

[IANA #811598] Last Call: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt> (SMTP 521 and 556 Reply Codes) to Proposed Standard

(BEGIN IANA LAST CALL COMMENTS)

IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.  Please report any inaccuracies and respond to the
question below as soon as possible.

IANA's reviewer has the following comments and questions:

QUESTION: In the IANA Considerations section, should "X.10.1" actually be "X.1.10," or is the document
referring to an entry that will be registered by another document?

IANA understands that, upon approval of this document, there is a single action which IANA must complete.

In the Enumerated Status Codes subregistry of the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) Enhanced Status
Codes Registry located at:

https://www.iana.org/assignments/smtp-enhanced-status-codes/

521 will be added to the list of codes associated with the enhanced code entry for X.3.2. A reference to [
RFC-to-be ] will be added to this registration.

and

556 will be added to the list of codes associated with the enhanced code entry for (X.1.10, or an
unregistered X.10.1?). A reference to [ RFC-to-be ] will be added to this registration.

As this document requests registrations in an Expert Review or Specification Required (see RFC 5226)
registry, we will initiate the required Expert Review via a separate ticket when we have a response to the
question above. 
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Alexey Melnikov | 22 Mar 16:26 2015

TLS server identity verification procedure update

Hi,
I wrote a draft on "Updated TLS Server Identity Check Procedure for 
Email Related Protocols"
  http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs/

This attempts to standardize consistent rules across all email protocols.

I would like to solicit some reviews and also feedback from implementors 
(email client writers, CA operators, tools writers).

Thank you,
Alexey

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IETF Secretariat | 11 Mar 17:26 2015
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Telechat update notice: <draft-klensin-smtp-521code-05.txt>

Placed on agenda for telechat - 2015-04-09
ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-smtp-521code/

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