IPTComm Announcements | 8 Jan 2007 19:35

IPTComm 2007 Second Call for Papers


Please find enclosed the Second Call for Papers for a new conference devoted to IP telecommunications to be
held in New York, July 2007. You are encouraged to circulate this CFP to interested colleagues, mailing
lists, forums and blogs.

Submission deadline: February 28, 2007

Greg Bond
IPTComm 2007 Co-Chair

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SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS

IPTComm 2007
PRINCIPLES, SYSTEMS AND APPLICATIONS OF IP TELECOMMUNICATIONS

19, 20 July 2007
Columbia University
NY, USA

http://iptcomm.org

SUBMISSION DEADLINE: February 28, 2007

While standards and products now support PSTN-equivalent services for voice, video and text over IP,
there are significant difficulties in deploying large-scale, reliable and secure IP
telecommunication systems. Services that go beyond basic call features remain hard to develop and deploy.

The aim of the IPTComm conference is to serve as a platform for researchers from academia and research labs,
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Carlos Becker Westphall | 21 Jul 2005 22:20
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CFP - NOMS 2006 - 10th IEEE/IFIP Network Operations and Management Symposium (NOMS 2006)

We apologize if you receive multiple copies of this CFP.

                 10th IEEE/IFIP
Network Operations and Management Symposium (NOMS 2006)

             http://www.noms2006.org

                 Call for Papers

           "Management of Integrated
     End-to-end Communications and Services"

The 10th IEEE/IFIP Network Operations and Management
Symposium (NOMS 2006) will be held 3-7 April 2006 in
the Vancouver Convention and Exhibition Center, Vancouver,
Canada. Held in even-numbered years since 1988, NOMS 2006
will follow the 18 year tradition of NOMS and IM as the
primary forum for technical exchange of the research,
standards, development, systems integration, service
provider, and user communities. NOMS 2006 will present
up-to-date approaches and technical solutions for
integrated systems and services including communication
networks, host systems, enterprise applications, service
oriented architectures, and delivery of management services.
The conference provides a peer-reviewed program of technical
sessions, application sessions, tutorials, posters,
application sessions, and panels as well as vendor exhibits.

Integrated systems and services require considerations for
today's multi-service and multi-domain environment of
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Carsten Griwodz | 7 May 2005 09:02
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CFP: Multimedia Computing and Networking (MMCN 2006)

Dear mailing list member,

we would like to inform you about the upcoming deadline of the
MMCN 2006. We apologize if you receive multiple copies of this CfP.

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                    Call for Papers and Announcement

                          SPIE/ACM MMCN 2006

                  Multimedia Computing and Networking 2006

     Part of the IS&T/SPIE International Symposium on Electronic Imaging
                In cooperation with: ACM SIG Multimedia

                          15-18 January 2006
              San Jose Marriott and San Jose Convention Center
                          San Jose, CA, USA

The objective of this  conference  is  to  bring  together  researchers  and
practitioners  contributing  to  all  facets  of  multimedia  computing  and
networking. We especially encourage full and  original  papers  on  emerging
technologies such as residential broadband networks and digital  appliances,
multimedia and QoS support for 3G and ad hoc  networks,  multimedia  in  P2P
environments,  sensor  networks  and  grids,   power-aware   computing   and
communications, mobile and fixed wireless multimedia  networks  and  content
distribution  networks.  We  will  specially   feature   industrial   design
experiences and showcase tools for next-generation  multimedia  systems  and
applications.   Presenters   will   be   encouraged   to   make   multimedia
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Allison, Art | 12 Oct 2004 17:45

Call For Proposals NAB 2005


NAB2005 will host the 59th NAB Broadcast Engineering Conference on April
16-21 at the Las Vegas Convention Center in Las Vegas, Nevada.  The
conference addresses the most recent developments in broadcast technology
and focuses on the opportunities and challenges that face broadcast
engineering professionals around the world.

Each year hundreds of broadcast professionals from around the world attend
the conference.  They include practicing broadcast engineers and
technicians, engineering consultants, contract engineers, broadcast
equipment manufacturers, distributors, R&D engineers plus anyone
specifically interested in the latest broadcast technologies.

The NAB Broadcast Engineering Conference is a highly technical conference
where presenters deliver technical papers ranging over a variety of topics
relevant to the broadcast and allied industries.  Presentations are limited
to thirty minutes in length, including five or ten minutes for questions
from the audience.  The conference rooms are equipped with audio visual
equipment that will accommodate standard computer presentations.  Presenters
must bring their own computers.

We invite you to submit a proposal to present a technical paper at our
conference by accessing http://www.nabshow.com/forms/beccallforpapers.asp.
Proposals should be clearly written and be no more than 200 words in length.
Your proposal should explain precisely what conference attendees can be
expected to learn from your paper.  Papers promoting company products or
services will not be accepted.  However, papers explaining the underlying
technologies used in broadcast products or services will be acceptable.

The deadline for submitting your proposal is October 15, 2004.  The
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Sara Alouf | 7 Oct 2004 17:46
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CFP Performance 2005


  ** Apologies for multiple copies of this message **

                   ***************
                   CALL FOR PAPERS
                   ***************

                   PERFORMANCE 2005

The 24th IFIP WG 7.3 International Symposium on Computer 
Performance Modeling, Measurement and Evaluation

                   October 3-7, 2005
                 Juan-les-Pins, France
       http://www-sop.inria.fr/maestro/performance2005/

Sponsored by IFIP WG 7.3, the Computer Performance Foundation 
and INRIA

The PERFORMANCE 2005 conference solicits papers on the 
development and application of state-of-the-art analytic, 
simulation, and measurement-based performance evaluation 
techniques. Topics of interest include, but are not 
limited to:

* Performance-oriented design and evaluation of:
  communication networks, mobile and wireless systems,
  Internet servers and E-commerce systems, Web services,
  Web architectures, peer-to-peer systems, grid computing,
  computer architectures, database systems, operating
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Wijnen, Bert (Bert | 8 Jun 2004 11:11
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Slosing down this mailing list

This mailing list served the IETF SMING WG in the past.
The WG was closed over a year ago.

For the last year, I believe that all I have seen on this list 
is spam and virus material (that I believe mostly did not really 
make it to the list, just to me as admin to review/check and discard).

It is time to just close this mailing list.

Thanks,
Bert Wijnen (co-AD for the IETF OPS area)

hui wang | 10 Feb 2004 09:03
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CFP of CIT2004

 With our apologize for any duplicates;

--------------------  CIT2004  CALL FOR PAPER   -----------------------
 
The 2004 International Conference on Computer and Information Technology
                               (CIT2004)
                  Wuhan, China, 14-16 September 2004,
 
                  http://smlsvr01.u-aizu.ac.jp/~cit2004/
 

CALL FOR PAPERS        
 
   Information technology has been widely considered as one of the most
important emerging technologies for the 21st century, which has been made
great impact on people and society. In the recent years, throughout
society, the explosion of computer network and information technology
has been changing the way people work and live. This conference serves as
one of the major forums for researchers and practitioners from academia
and industry to discuss and exchange ideas and opinions, and envision
the future of computer and information technology.
 
   In 2004, it will specially focus on graphics, multimedia, web services,
and wireless/mobile/pervasive computing in the related research,
development and application fields. Topics of particular interest
include, but are not limited to:
 
1) Graphics and MultimediaGraphics systems,
 
 shape abstraction modeling,
 geometric modeling,
 rendering algorithms,
 virtual reality techniques,
 volume visualization,
 animation techniques,
 pattern recognition,
 image understanding,
 interactive multimedia systems,
 networked multimedia,
 human-computer interaction
 
2) Web-based Services
 
 Web data management,
 web mining,
 semantic web,
 web services performance and modeling,
 e-learning,
 XML structures,
 grid-based services,
 grid middleware and tools,
 distributed algorithms,
 peer-to-peer networks,
 next generation internet technologies
 
3) wireless/mobile/pervasive Computing
 
 Wireless computing systems,
 ad hoc networking service discovery,
 wireless-phone computing,
 mobile communication,
 portable devices and smart sensors,
 wearable computers and PDAs,
 pervasive system concepts and architectures,
 pervasive applications,
 infrastructure and networks of ubiquitous computing
 
4) Applications
 
 Intelligent health care system,
 information retrieval,
 knowledge management,
 information design,
 medical information systems,
 database and application systems,
 software agents,
 software engineering,
 natural language processing
 
 
IMPORTANT DATES
 
 Paper submission due:         20 April 2004
 Acceptance notification:      5 June 2004
 Camera-ready due:             25 June 2004
 Author registration:          20 July 2004
 
PUBLICATIONS       
 
    The accepted papers have to be presented orally within 25 minutes
included discussion at the conference and will be published in
proceedings of CIT2004 by IEEE Computer Society. The selected best
papers will be published in special issues of International Journals.
 
BEST PAPER AWARDS
 
    The program committee will select one winner for the Best Paper Award
(all regular papers are eligible) and one winner for the Best Student Paper
Award (only the regular papers whose first author is a full-time student
are eligible). Each winner will be presented with a certification and
a cheque. SUBMISSION GUIDELINESSubmissions should include an abstract,
5-7 keywords, the e-mail address of the corresponding author, and must not
exceed 8 pages (IEEE format), including tables and figures, with PDF,
PostScript, or MS Word format.
 
    Submission of a paper should be regarded as an undertaking that, should
the paper be accepted, at least one of the authors will attend the
conference to present the work. Submissions to CIT2004 will be conducted
electronically on the CIT2004 website. Authors unable to access e-mail
may send 4 hard copies of their papers to:
 
 PC Co-Chair, Dr. Hui Wang
 School of Computer Science and Engineering,
 University of Aizu,Ikki-machi, Aizu-Wakamatsu City,
 Fukushima 965-8580, Japan
 
 Email: hwang <at> u-aizu.ac.jp
 Tel: +81-242-37-2666
 Fax: +81-242-37-2728
 
CONFERENCE WEB SITE:       
 http://smlsvr01.u-aizu.ac.jp/~cit2004/
 
HONORARY GENERAL CHAIRS
 
 Jingnan Liu, Wuhan University, China
 Tetsuhiko Ikegami, University of Aizu, Japan
 
GENERAL CHAIRS
 
 Daming Wei, University of Aizu, Japan
 Yanxiang He, Wuhan University, China
 
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
 
 Chris Constantinou, Stanford University, USA
 Chin-Chen Chang, National Chung Cheng University, Taiwan
 Huowang Chen, Changsha Institute of Technology, China
 Keqing He, Wuhan University, China
 Lishan Kang, Wuhan University, China
 Kae Dal Kwack, Hanyang University, Korea
 Deyi Li, Institute of China Electronic System Engineering, China
 Sanli Li, Tsinghua University, China
 Bole Shi, Fudan University, China
 Gengfeng Wu, Shanghai University, China
 Guoqing Wu, Wuhan University, China
 Fumio Okuyama, Suzuka University of Mecial Science, Japan
 Yoneo Yano, Tokushima University, Japan 
 
PROGRAM COMMITTEE CHAIRS
 
 Hui Wang, University of Aizu, Japan
 Zhiyong Peng, Wuhan University, China
 Atsushi Kara, University of Aizu, Japan
 
PUBLICITY CHAIRS
 
 Qun Jin, Waseda University, Japan
 Qing Li, City University of Hong Kong, China
 Yanchun Zhang, Victoria University, Australia
 
LOCAL ORGANISATION  COMMITTEE
 
 Shi Ying, Wuhan University, China
 Xusheng Yang, Wuhan University, China
 Huaibei Zhou, Wuhan University, China
 Jiaheng Cao, Wuhan University, China
 Xuhui Li, Wuhan University, China
 
PROGRAM COMMITTEE
 
 Saeid Belkasim, Georgia State University, USA                            
 Subhash Bhalla, University of Aizu, Japan                                
 Wenxi Chen, University of Aizu, Japan                                            
 Zixue Cheng, University of Aizu, Japan                                   
 Michael Cohen, University of Aizu, Japan                                 
 Brian d'Auriol, University of Texas at EP, USA                           
 Youdong Ding, Shanghai University, China                                 
 Zuxiang Fang, Fudan University, China                                    
 Jihong Guan, Wuhan University, China                                    
 Guoqing Gu, East China Normal University, China                          
 Ning Gu, Fudan University, China                                         
 Minyi Guo, University of Aizu, Japan                                     
 Khairuddin Hashim, Tun Abdul Razak University, Malaysia                 
 Toshihiro Hayashi, Saga University, Japan                                
 Aiguo He, University of Aizu, Japan                                      
 Tingting He, Huazhong Normal University, China                           
 Susantha Herath, St. Cloud State University, USA                         
 Hai Jin, Huazhong University of Science and Technology, China            
 Hua Hu, Hangzhou Institute of Commerce, China                            
 Jicheng Hu, Wuhan University, China                                     
 Xiaohua Hu, Drexel University, USA                                       
 Jie Huang, University of Aizu, Japan                                     
 Rajgopal Kannan, Louisiana State University, USA                             
 Keqin Li, State University of New York, USA                              
 Minglu Li, Shanghai Jiao Tong University, China                          
 Vitaliy Kluev, University of Aizu, Japan                                 
 Yiwen Liang, Wuhan University, China                                    
 Yong Liu, University of Aizu, Japan                                      
 Zhen Liu, Nagasaki Institute of Applied Science, Japan                   
 Jianhua Ma, Hosei University, Japan                                     
 William L. Martens, McGill University, Canada                            
 Geyong Min, University of Bradford, UK                                  
 Nikolay N. Mirenkov, University of Aizu, Japan                           
 Mukesh Mohania, IBM India Res Lab, India                                 
 Shoji Nishimura, Waseda University, Japan                               
 Fumio Okuyama, Suzuka University of Medical Science, Japan                              
 Incheon Paik, University of Aizu, Japan                                  
 Yi Pan, Georgia State University , USA                                   
 Lim Ee Peng, Nanyang Technological University , Singapore                
 Sibabrata Ray, University  of Alabama, USA                               
 Kazuyuki Saito, University of Aizu, Japan                                
 Stanislav G. Sedukhin, University of Aizu, Japan                         
 Timothy K. Shih, Tamkang University, Taiwan                             
 Jung-Pil Shin, University of Aizu, Japan                                 
 Masahide Sugiyama, University of Aizu, Japan                             
 Xinmin Tian, Intel Corp., USA                                            
 Jari Veijalainen, University of Jyvaskyla, Finland                      
 Lina Wang, Wuhan University, China                               
 Ying-Hong Wang, Tamkang University, Taiwan                              
 Werner Winiwarter, University of Vienna, Austria                        
 Bing Wu, Dublin Institute Technology, Ireland                            
 Yang Xiao, University  of Memphis, USA                                   
 Laurence T. Yang, St. Francis Xavier University , Canada                 
 Jeffrey Xu Yu, Chinese University of Hong Kong, China                   
 Qiangfu Zhao, University of Aizu, Japan                                  
 Liang Zhang, Fudan University, China                                    
 Shensheng Zhang, Shanghai Jiao Tong University, China                    
 Shuigeng Zhou, Fudan University, China                                  
 Xiaofang Zhou, University of Queensland, Australia                     
 
--------------------  CIT2004  THE END   -----------------------
   
   
Wijnen, Bert (Bert | 23 Sep 2003 17:48
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FW: [nmrg] sming last call

Although the SMIng WG has concluded/closed, the WG mailing list
is (or should) still be active.

    The NMRG has decided to cleanup a set of sming docs that form
    a complete and consistent document-set for the sming work that
    has been done to date. The idea (of the NMRG) is to publish
    them as experimental RFCs so that there is a record for future
    generations.

    The NMRG is having a "last call" as per attached posting to NMRG list.
    I would appreciate some extra eyes to review. Not to open up old
    discussions, but rather to check the docs for clarity and consistency,
    so that they come out with as good a quality as possible.

    If you have any comments, feel free to post them here or directly to
    the NMRG list (they may need admin approval there), which is
    mailto:nmrg <at> ibr.cs.tu-bs.de

Bert Wijnen

-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwaelder <at> iu-bremen.de]
Sent: dinsdag 23 september 2003 12:17
To: nmrg <at> ibr.cs.tu-bs.de
Subject: [nmrg] sming last call

This is the start of a two week last call on the following SMIng 
documents:

	draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-05.txt
	draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-modules-03.txt
	draft-irtf-nmrg-sming-snmp-03.txt

If you have any issues, raise them now. Otherwise, these documents will
be submitted to the RFC editor for publication as experimental RFCs.

Note that the list of SMIng documents under last call does not include 
the COPS-PR mapping document since the authors of this document stopped 
to respond to email. So if you think the COPS-PR mapping should be 
published as well, please speak up and volunteer yourself to become 
the editor of that document.

This last call ends on October 7th.

/js

-- 
Juergen Schoenwaelder		    International University Bremen
<http://www.eecs.iu-bremen.de/>	    P.O. Box 750 561, 28725 Bremen, Germany
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Maurice GAGNAIRE | 9 Apr 2003 14:33
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CFP of Internetworking 2003


With our apologize for any duplicates;

         **********************************************************
                                       INTERNETWORKING 2003 International 
Conference
                                   Hilton San Jose & Towers Hotel, California
                              Sunday June 22 through Tuesday June 24, 2003
                                 with the support of the IEEE and IFIP WG 6.2
         **********************************************************

Internetworking-2003 is a conference focused on internetworking
technologies in the IP, optical, and wireless domains.
Last year's event was collocated with the highly successful MPLS 2002
conference, which was held in Washington DC. Internetworking 2003 is more
expansive than the MPLS conference series and encompasses a wider range of
topics.
The Internetworking 2003 event in March will include participation from
industry, government agencies, and the academia.
Presentations are through invitation and via open call.Technical sessions
at the conference include the following tracks:

-       Routing
-       OSS and Network Management
-       Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)
-       IP Network Security
-       Voice over IP
-       IPv6

Call For Papers:
----------------

The Internetworking 2003 Program Committee cordially invites you to submit
proposals for original, unpublished presentations focusing on
internetworking technologies in the IP, optical, and wireless domains.
Summaries not exceeding 250 words can be submitted to submissions <at> caitr.org
for review and possible inclusion in the program, no later than April 11,
2003. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to the following:

* Voice over IP (VoIP)
* IP Video Conferencing
* Storage Area Networks (SANs)
* Unicast and Multicast Routing and Convergence
* QoS Routing
* Network Security and Service Integration
* Operational Support Systems
* Virtual Private Networks
* Internetworking Wireless LANs and 3G Wireless Networks
* IP-based Infrastructure for Wireless Networks
* Internetworking IP and Optical Networks
* Internetworking MPLS with Legacy ATM and Frame Relay Networks
* Transition from IPv4 to IPv6 and interworking
* Pervasive Computing
* High Speed Transport Layer Protocols
* Peer to Peer Networking and Grid Computing
* Video Teleconferencing (VTC)
*  802.11 Hotspots
* Ethernet First Mile networks (EPON, EDSL)
* IEEE 802.17 MAN, RPR

Conference Web_site: http://www.caitr.org/internetworking03/program.htm
--------------------

Technical Programme Committee :
--------------------------------------------

- Maurice Gagnaire (ENST- France) co-chair
- Daniel Awduche (Isocore - USA) co-chair

- Augusto Casaca (INESC- Portugal)
- Nada Golmie (NIST - USA)
- Ibrahim Habib (CUNY - USA)
- Bijan Jabbari (GMU - USA)
- Marc Lobelle (UCL - Belgium)
- Fabio Neri (Politecnico di Torino - Italy) *
- Guy Pujolle (LIP6 - France)
- James Roberts (France Telecom R&D) *
- Roberto Sabella (Erisson - Italy)
- Jochen H. Schiller (Freie Univ. Berlin, Germany)
- Vishal Sharma (Metanoia - USA)
- Samir Tohme (ENST - France)
- Stefano Trumpy (CNR - Italy)
- Peter Vetter (Alcatel Antwerpen - Belgium) *
- Parviv Yegani (Cisco - USA)
- Ferit Yegenoglu (Isocore -USA)
- Ali Zadeh (GMU - USA)
- Moshe Zukerman (Univ. of Melbourne - Australia)

(* = to be confirmed)
Ahmed Mehaoua | 8 Apr 2003 19:10
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CFP IEEE/IFIP Intern. Conference on Management of Multimedia Networks & Services 2003

Dear Colleagues,
Apologize for any duplicates;
 
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 Please distribute to interested people to encourage contributions ans submissions to the 6th IFIP/IEEE International Conference on Management of Multimedia Networks and Services :
        7th - 10th September 2003, Queen's University of Belfast, Northern Ireland
                            http://www.ee.qub.ac.uk/mmns2003 .
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Please note the extension to the deadline for submission of papers to MMNS2003 is 18th April 2003. Please circulate to your colleagues to ensure a good turnout.
 
For further information about the conference please see the web site at http://ee-server.ee.qub.ac.uk/dsp/mmns2003/
 
Best Regards,
 
Ahmed Mehaoua
(Publicity chair)
 
 
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MMNS 2003
6th IFIP/IEEE International Conference on Management of Multimedia Networks and Services
        7th - 10th September 2003, Queen's University of Belfast, Northern Ireland
                            http://www.ee.qub.ac.uk/mmns2003
 

                                  Second Call For Papers
 
Multimedia services over IP networks are proliferating at an enormous speed. There
is also increasing demand for solutions which provide assured levels of service quality.
All of these require novel paradigms, models and architectures for realising integrated
end-to-end service management rather than managing network elements in isolation.
Providing scalable Quality of Service (QoS) while maintaining fairness, along with
secure and optimal network resource management are key challenges for the future
Internet. These challenges apply to both fixed and wireless networks.
 
The IFIP/IEEE International Conference on Management of Multimedia Networks and Services
will hold its sixth annual meeting from September 7th to September 10th, 2003 in Belfast,
Northern Ireland. MMNS provides an intimate setting for discussion and debate. In just 6 years,
MMNS has established itself as one of the premier conferences with a focus on the management
of multimedia networks and services. The conference objective is to bring together researchers
working in all facets of network and service management as applied to broadband networks and
multimedia services. MMNS deals with all aspects of designing, developing and deploying
networked multimedia systems and it serves as a forum for the dissemination of state-of-the-art
research and development results.
 
MMNS 2003 will also include panel sessions in which experts
offer their observations and opinions about current hot topics. The keynote speaker will be
Professor Ian Akyildiz, Georgia Institute of Technology who will present a vision of future
interplanetary network architectures. Professor Derek McAuley, head of Intel's recently formed
laboratory at Cambridge, UK, will describe some of the new research being undertaken on global
overlay networks and applications.
 

The program committee is soliciting original papers describing research in the area of
management of multimedia networks and services. Topics of interest include, but are not
limited to, the following:
 
        * Active multimedia network management
        * Ad-hoc and Sensor Networks
        * Augmented and Virtual Reality Networks
        * Billing and Accounting
        * Cable multimedia network management
        * Content distribution internetworking
        * Deployment of multimedia services
        * Distributed multimedia service management
        * End-to-end IP multimedia network and service management
        * IP Video, streaming, interactive video service management
        * Middleware support for management
        * Multimedia network traffic engineering and optimization
        * Multimedia traffic management
        * Multimedia content protection
        * Multimedia session management
        * Multi-point, multicast services management
        * Network management models and architectures
        * Network programmability for multimedia services
        * Optical multimedia network management
        * Policy-based management for multi-media services
        * Provisioning of multimedia networks and services
        * QoS in WLANs
        * QoS management
        * Resource, performance and fault management
        * Security and Authentication
        * VoIP service management
        * Web Services
        * Wireless and mobile multimedia network management
 

Papers must be submitted electronically in postscript or PDF format. Detailed
instructions are provided on the conference web site, http://www.ee.qub.ac.uk/mmns2003.
 
Submission date:            18th April 2003
Notification of acceptance: 6th June 2003
Final version:              4th July 2003
 
Conference Chairs:
   Professor Alan Marshall, a.marshall <at> ee.qub.ac.uk, Queen’s University of Belfast, UK
   Professor Nazim Agoulmine, nazim <at> rp.lip6.fr, University of Evry, France
 
Qiang Gu
Advanced Telecommunication Systems Laboratory
School of Electrical & Electronic Engineering
The Queen's University of Belfast
Belfast
Northern Ireland.
BT9 5AH
Email: qiang.gu <at> ee.qub.ac.uk
Telephone: +44 -2890-274142
Fax: +44 -2890-274417
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Ahmed Mehaoua
University of Versailles - CNRS PRISM Lab.
45 av. des etats unis 78000 Versailles - France
Email : mea <at> prism.uvsq.fr
Tel : +33 1 39 25 40 45
 
 
Wijnen, Bert (Bert | 7 Apr 2003 23:51
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FW: WG Action: Next Generation Structure of Management Informatio n WG (sming) to conclude

FYI. Seems that this was not posted to the WG mailing list

Thanks,
Bert 

-----Original Message-----
From: The IESG [mailto:iesg-secretary <at> ietf.org]
Sent: vrijdag 4 april 2003 21:30
Subject: WG Action: Next Generation Structure of Management Information
WG (sming) to conclude

The SMIng WG has been closed. The WG could not get to consensus
on a new version of the SMI language and even today, some 2.5
years after being chartered, there seems to be no consensus
and/or wide community support to drive to conclusion on a
deliverable.

- In 1999 and 2000, the IRTF NMRG did a lot of work on a possible
  SMIng (Structure of Management Information Next Generation).
  The research group developed a complete new SMI language spec
  and also had implementations. In addition there were tools
  to convert to/from SMIv2 and tools to convert to/from other
  languages like IDL etc.

- In November 2000, the SMIng WG was chartered. The WG was 
  specifically limted to NOT try and develop a grandiose mother
  of all information/data modeling languages. Instead it was 
  chartered to enhance the SMIv2 and to try and cater for a
  data modeling language that would re-merge the SMI and SPPI
  back into one advanced data modeling language. The resulting
  Management Information Modules would be able to be used by
  multiuple protocols, specifically SNMP and COPS-PR.

- The WG was chartered to consider the NMRG SMIng work as base
  to start from. A requirements document was the first deliverable,
  to try and make sure it would address the most pressing needs
  but also to limit it to doable and implementable requirements.

- The WG was originally chartered to finish by March 2002.

- The WG got bogged down (initially) by defining the requirements.
  It took the WG 8 months (a year before the RFC showed up) to
  deliver the RFC (3216) that describes them (renamed to "objectives"
  because people worried that "requirements" would be used to "force"
  various "requirements" into a possible solution, even if the
  actual solution would turn out to be un-implementable or
  impractical. In hindsight, I think these were serious signs
  of trouble in the WG.).

- The WG did not show (even rough) consensus on using SMIng as the
  base to start from. So the WG then went into a "submission of
  proposals" and later "selection" process. I believe this did 
  bring good discussions into the WG, but it took a long time
  before a consensus was formed. The consensus I believe was to
  "merge the SMI-DS and the SMIng proposals".

- However, when trying to work from that consensus, the WG seemed
  to have tired of the work. Not enough volunteers could be found
  to actually write the "merged" document set and to drive it
  to conclusion. During that process, it turned out that various
  core contributors continued to have serious concerns about some
  of their original ideas/concerns not being considered/addressed.
  There was also a feeling (by some) that the compromise solution
  would not be coherent and that it would lack a clear design.

- It all culminated to an "un-volunteering" at the 55th IETF in
  November 2002. Instead of various members volunteering to help
  finish the documents that were agreed to by the WG, one of the
  volunteers "un-volunteered" some of the documents he had earlier
  volunteered to work on. The WG was warned soon afterwards that
  some better consensus, energy and effort towards a good result
  was needed in order to continue its work.

- We are now 2 years and 4 months after the WG started and we have
  seen no new initiatives in the WG for the last 4-5 months.
  What a shame that we have wasted more than two years without
  any results. The IETF NM community clearly has lost interest
  to try to get consensus and continue work based on such consensus.

- If the NMRG wants to publish the original SMIng docs as experimental
  or informational RFCs, they should go ahead and do so, so that we
  at least keep some record of a specification and implementaion
  that once was available.

Bert Wijnen
co-AD for the IETF Operations and Management Area


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