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Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

Greetings again. Jim Schaad and I have created a draft that contains 
revised ASN.1 modules for some of the standards-track RFCs for 
S/MIME. These modules conform to ASN.1 2002. We want to see if people 
are interested in bringing the S/MIME specs up to the new ASN.1 now 
that there is an open source, freeware ASN.1 compiler for ASN.1 2002, 
a2c (see <http://code.google.com/p/a2c/>).

This is definitely a first draft. There is a list of issues that we 
want to address, and we expect more issues to come up in the WG. 
Please review the draft and let us know what you think. FWIW, there 
is a parallel draft for PKIX.

>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>directories.
>
>	Title           : New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME
>	Author(s)       : P. Hoffman, J. Schaad
>	Filename        : draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>	Pages           : 32
>	Date            : 2007-11-08
>
>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) format, and many associated
>formats, are expressed using ASN.1.  The current ASN.1 modules
>conform to the 1988 version of ASN.1.  This document updates those
>ASN.1 modules to conform to the 2002 version of ASN.1.  There are no
>bits-on-the-wire changes to any of the formats; this is simply a
>change to the syntax.
>
>A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium

I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-3851bis-00.txt

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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions 
                          (S/MIME) Version 3.2 Message Specification 
	Author(s)	: B. Ramsdell, S. Turner
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-3851bis-00.txt
	Pages		: 39
	Date		: 2007-11-8
	
   This document defines Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions 
   (S/MIME) version 3.2.  S/MIME provides a consistent way to send and 
   receive secure MIME data.  Digital signatures provide authentication, 
   message integrity, and non-repudiation with proof of origin. 
   Encryption provides data confidentiality.  Compression can be used to 
   reduce data size.  This document obsoletes RFC 3851.

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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-3850bis-00.txt

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This draft is a work item of the S/MIME Mail Security Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions 
                          (S/MIME) Version 3.2 Certificate Handling 
	Author(s)	: S. Turner, B. Ramsdell
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-3850bis-00.txt
	Pages		: 18
	Date		: 2007-11-8
	
   This document specifies conventions for X.509 certificate usage by 
   Secure/Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (S/MIME) agents.  S/MIME 
   provides a method to send and receive secure MIME messages, and 
   certificates are an integral part of S/MIME agent processing.  S/MIME 
   agents validate certificates as described in RFC 3280bis, the 
   Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Certificate and CRL Profile.  
   S/MIME agents must meet the certificate processing requirements in 
   this document as well as those in RFC 3280bis. This document 
   obsoletes RFC 3850. 

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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-bfibecms-08.txt

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	Title		: Using the Boneh-Franklin and Boneh-Boyen 
                          identity-based encryption algorithms with the 
                          Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS)
	Author(s)	: L. Martin, M. Schertler
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-bfibecms-08.txt
	Pages		: 16
	Date		: 2007-11-8
	
This document describes the conventions for using the Boneh-
        Franklin (BF) and Boneh-Boyen (BB1) identity-based 
        encryption algorithms in the Cryptographic Message Syntax 
        (CMS) to encrypt content-encryption keys. Object identifiers 
        and the convention for encoding a recipient's identity are 
        also defined.

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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-ibearch-06.txt

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	Title		: Identity-based Encryption Architecture
	Author(s)	: M. Schertler, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-ibearch-06.txt
	Pages		: 28
	Date		: 2007-11-8
	
This document describes the security architecture required 
     to implement identity-based encryption, a public-key 
     encryption technology that uses a user's identity as a 
     public key.

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RE: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

I am interested in moving the specs up to the later ASN.1 version.

spt  

>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ietf-smime <at> mail.imc.org 
>[mailto:owner-ietf-smime <at> mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman
>Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:59 PM
>To: ietf-smime <at> imc.org
>Subject: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>
>
>Greetings again. Jim Schaad and I have created a draft that 
>contains revised ASN.1 modules for some of the standards-track 
>RFCs for S/MIME. These modules conform to ASN.1 2002. We want 
>to see if people are interested in bringing the S/MIME specs 
>up to the new ASN.1 now that there is an open source, freeware 
>ASN.1 compiler for ASN.1 2002, a2c (see 
><http://code.google.com/p/a2c/>).
>
>This is definitely a first draft. There is a list of issues 
>that we want to address, and we expect more issues to come up 
>in the WG. 
>Please review the draft and let us know what you think. FWIW, 
>there is a parallel draft for PKIX.
>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
>>directories.
>>
>>	Title           : New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME
>>	Author(s)       : P. Hoffman, J. Schaad
>>	Filename        : draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>>	Pages           : 32
>>	Date            : 2007-11-08
>>
>>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) format, and many associated 
>>formats, are expressed using ASN.1.  The current ASN.1 
>modules conform 
>>to the 1988 version of ASN.1.  This document updates those
>>ASN.1 modules to conform to the 2002 version of ASN.1.  There are no 
>>bits-on-the-wire changes to any of the formats; this is 
>simply a change 
>>to the syntax.
>>
>>A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>
>--Paul Hoffman, Director
>--VPN Consortium
>

Re: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

The initiative seems to be a good idea.

To be able to use these ASN.1 modules in free software, a license to
grant the necessary rights is needed.  (As far as I understand, RFC 3978
is not sufficient, see [1].)  After verifying that the ownership of the
contribution allows it, please consider adding a note (possibly the one
discussed in section 3 of [2]) or somehow release the modules under a
liberal license outside of the IETF process.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments

[2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-josefsson-free-standards-howto-01

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman <at> vpnc.org> writes:

> Greetings again. Jim Schaad and I have created a draft that contains
> revised ASN.1 modules for some of the standards-track RFCs for
> S/MIME. These modules conform to ASN.1 2002. We want to see if people
> are interested in bringing the S/MIME specs up to the new ASN.1 now
> that there is an open source, freeware ASN.1 compiler for ASN.1 2002,
> a2c (see <http://code.google.com/p/a2c/>).
>
> This is definitely a first draft. There is a list of issues that we
> want to address, and we expect more issues to come up in the
> WG. Please review the draft and let us know what you think. FWIW,
> there is a parallel draft for PKIX.
>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>	Title           : New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME
>>	Author(s)       : P. Hoffman, J. Schaad
>>	Filename        : draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>>	Pages           : 32
>>	Date            : 2007-11-08
>>
>>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) format, and many associated
>>formats, are expressed using ASN.1.  The current ASN.1 modules
>>conform to the 1988 version of ASN.1.  This document updates those
>>ASN.1 modules to conform to the 2002 version of ASN.1.  There are no
>>bits-on-the-wire changes to any of the formats; this is simply a
>>change to the syntax.
>>
>>A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --VPN Consortium

RE: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

Simon,

Perhaps I misunderstand the meaning of [1]:

"Dear Author,

The Debian GNU/Linux distribution wishes to incorporate the
IETF RFC xxxx as part of its distribution, and to allow
users to develop, modify and evolve the document."

but it sounds like a request to keep the name "IETF RFC xxxx"
while modifying the content.  This is, of course, completely
contrary to the IETF configuration management process where
RFCs are an archival document series, and no changes are
permitted once an RFC is issued.

Perhaps Debian should align its process with that of the
IETF, requesting permission to create derivative documents
provided that attribution is maintained, and requiring
that any derivative works DO NOT claim to be IETF RFCs.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ietf-smime <at> mail.imc.org
[mailto:owner-ietf-smime <at> mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of Simon Josefsson
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 6:07 AM
To: Paul Hoffman
Cc: ietf-smime <at> imc.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

The initiative seems to be a good idea.

To be able to use these ASN.1 modules in free software, a license to
grant the necessary rights is needed.  (As far as I understand, RFC 3978
is not sufficient, see [1].)  After verifying that the ownership of the
contribution allows it, please consider adding a note (possibly the one
discussed in section 3 of [2]) or somehow release the modules under a
liberal license outside of the IETF process.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments

[2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-josefsson-free-standards-howto-01

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman <at> vpnc.org> writes:

> Greetings again. Jim Schaad and I have created a draft that contains
> revised ASN.1 modules for some of the standards-track RFCs for
> S/MIME. These modules conform to ASN.1 2002. We want to see if people
> are interested in bringing the S/MIME specs up to the new ASN.1 now
> that there is an open source, freeware ASN.1 compiler for ASN.1 2002,
> a2c (see <http://code.google.com/p/a2c/>).
>
> This is definitely a first draft. There is a list of issues that we
> want to address, and we expect more issues to come up in the
> WG. Please review the draft and let us know what you think. FWIW,
> there is a parallel draft for PKIX.
>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>	Title           : New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME
>>	Author(s)       : P. Hoffman, J. Schaad
>>	Filename        : draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>>	Pages           : 32
>>	Date            : 2007-11-08
>>
>>The Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) format, and many associated
>>formats, are expressed using ASN.1.  The current ASN.1 modules
>>conform to the 1988 version of ASN.1.  This document updates those
>>ASN.1 modules to conform to the 2002 version of ASN.1.  There are no
>>bits-on-the-wire changes to any of the formats; this is simply a
>>change to the syntax.
>>
>>A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt
>
> --Paul Hoffman, Director
> --VPN Consortium

RE: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-cms-new-asn1-00.txt

Wait wait wait!

The S/MIME WG mailing list is *not* the place for the discussion of 
how the IETF and/or GNU process should work; the IPR WG mailing list 
is.

Simon made a request (that we modify the drafts to make him believe 
that he can use the contents there). We are considering doing so. 
However, the "how" part is not for this mailing list.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium