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Paul Hoffman / IMC | 6 Nov 2002 17:35
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Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


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>	Title		: Examples of S/MIME Messages
>	Author(s)	: P. Hoffman
>	Filename	: draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt
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>	Date		: 2002-11-5
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>This document gives examples of message bodies formatted using S/MIME.
>Specifically, it has examples of Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS)
>objects, S/MIME messages (including the MIME formatting), and Enhanced
>Security Services for S/MIME (ESS). It includes examples of most or all
>common CMS and ESS formats; in addition, it gives examples that show
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Jeff Jacoby | 6 Nov 2002 19:24

Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


Are there any plans to do example messages with greater 
levels of nesting, e.g. signed then enveloped, or signed 
then signed again then enveloped?

Also, I notice there is only one message which is indefinite-length 
encoded.  Will there be more examples with indefinte-length enodings?

Jeff
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Pawling, John | 6 Nov 2002 19:35

RE: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


Hi Jeff and Paul,

If desired, we can provide a triple-wrapped S/MIME message (signed then encrypted then signed) as
specified in RFC 2634.  

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John Pawling, John.Pawling <at> GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Jacoby [mailto:jjacoby <at> rsasecurity.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Paul Hoffman / IMC
Cc: ietf-smime-examples <at> imc.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt

Are there any plans to do example messages with greater 
levels of nesting, e.g. signed then enveloped, or signed 
then signed again then enveloped?

Also, I notice there is only one message which is indefinite-length 
encoded.  Will there be more examples with indefinte-length enodings?

Jeff
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RSA Security Inc., DSG                    jjacoby <at> rsasecurity.com
2955 Campus Dr., Ste. 400                 (650) 295-7569
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Blake Ramsdell | 6 Nov 2002 21:53

RE: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-ietf-smime-examples <at> mail.imc.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jeff Jacoby
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> Also, I notice there is only one message which is indefinite-length 
> encoded.  Will there be more examples with indefinte-length enodings?

What cases are you concerned about?  Total length of an indefininte
length block > 64K?

Blake
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Jeff Jacoby | 7 Nov 2002 02:06

Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


Blake Ramsdell wrote:
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> > Jeff Jacoby
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:25 AM
> > To: Paul Hoffman / IMC
> > Cc: ietf-smime-examples <at> imc.org
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt
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> > Also, I notice there is only one message which is indefinite-length
> > encoded.  Will there be more examples with indefinte-length enodings?
> 
> What cases are you concerned about?  Total length of an indefininte
> length block > 64K?
> 
> Blake

It could be that I'm confusing myself, or I'm just making things
unnecessarily complicated, but I was thinking of a "streaming"
case.  

By this I mean:
 - Lot's of data is to be signed and enveloped.  The data is
   available only a little bit at a time, nor do I know how much
   there ultimately will be.
 - I run the data through my CMS signing routines, which 
   most likely produce indefinite-length encodings (unless I want
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Aman Sawrup | 21 Nov 2002 17:58

draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt, example 8.1


Could somebody please confirm that the value of ExContent in this
example is "This is some sample content.".  Because, the value I get
for ExContent is "This some sampe content.".

Thanks.
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Jeff Jacoby | 22 Nov 2002 16:29

Re: draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt, example 8.1


Aman Sawrup wrote:
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> Could somebody please confirm that the value of ExContent in this
> example is "This is some sample content.".  Because, the value I get
> for ExContent is "This some sampe content.".

I got this as well (your value).

Jeff

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Blake Ramsdell | 25 Nov 2002 08:22

RE: draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt, example 8.1


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> Jeff Jacoby
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> Subject: Re: draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt, example 8.1
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> Aman Sawrup wrote:
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> > Could somebody please confirm that the value of ExContent in this
> > example is "This is some sample content.".  Because, the value I get
> > for ExContent is "This some sampe content.".
> 
> I got this as well (your value).

I think it's unanimous (I got this value also) ;)  This was a problem
with a couple of the other examples, but I did not have an EncryptedData
handler until now to look at example 8.1.

This example should be fixed to decrypt to the contents of
ExContent.bin.

Blake
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Pawling, John | 25 Nov 2002 16:26

RE: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt


All,

Getronics plans to use the S/MIME Freeware Library to create
signed-then-encrypted and RFC 2634 (ESS) triple-wrapped (signed then
encrypted then signed) messages to be added to the Examples document.
We will send the proposed additions to this list for verification.  

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John Pawling, John.Pawling <at> GetronicsGov.com
Getronics Government Solutions, LLC
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Jacoby [mailto:jjacoby <at> rsasecurity.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Paul Hoffman / IMC
Cc: ietf-smime-examples <at> imc.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-smime-examples-09.txt

Are there any plans to do example messages with greater 
levels of nesting, e.g. signed then enveloped, or signed 
then signed again then enveloped?

Also, I notice there is only one message which is indefinite-length 
encoded.  Will there be more examples with indefinte-length enodings?

Jeff
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