internet-drafts | 15 Jun 2013 19:04
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I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases-03.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Composite Link Use Cases and Design Considerations
	Author(s)       : So Ning
                          Andrew Malis
                          Dave McDysan
                          Lucy Yong
                          Curtis Villamizar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases-03.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2013-06-15

Abstract:
   This document provides a set of use cases and design considerations
   for composite links.

   Composite link is a formalization of multipath techniques currently
   in use in IP and MPLS networks and a set of extensions to existing
   multipath techniques.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases-03
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internet-drafts | 15 Jun 2013 18:55
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I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-03.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Composite Link Framework in Multi Protocol Label Switching (MPLS)
	Author(s)       : So Ning
                          Dave McDysan
                          Eric Osborne
                          Lucy Yong
                          Curtis Villamizar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-03.txt
	Pages           : 43
	Date            : 2013-06-15

Abstract:
   This document specifies a framework for support of composite link in
   MPLS networks.  A composite link consists of a group of homogenous or
   non-homogenous links that have the same forward adjacency and can be
   considered as a single TE link or an IP link in routing.  A composite
   link relies on its component links to carry the traffic over the
   composite link.  Applicability is described for a single pair of
   MPLS-capable nodes, a sequence of MPLS-capable nodes, or a set of
   layer networks connecting MPLS-capable nodes.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-framework-03

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The IESG | 5 Jun 2013 16:00
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Last Call: <draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-10.txt> (Requirements for Composite Links in MPLS Networks) to Informational RFC


The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group WG
(rtgwg) to consider the following document:
- 'Requirements for Composite Links in MPLS Networks'
  <draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-10.txt> as Informational RFC

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf <at> ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-06-19. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg <at> ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract

   There is often a need to provide large aggregates of bandwidth that
   are best provided using parallel links between routers or MPLS LSR.
   In core networks there is often no alternative since the aggregate
   capacities of core networks today far exceed the capacity of a single
   physical link or single packet processing element.

   The presence of parallel links, with each link potentially comprised
   of multiple layers has resulted in additional requirements.  Certain
   services may benefit from being restricted to a subset of the
   component links or a specific component link, where component link
   characteristics, such as latency, differ.  Certain services require
   that an LSP be treated as atomic and avoid reordering.  Other
   services will continue to require only that reordering not occur
   within a microflow as is current practice.

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Alia Atlas | 31 May 2013 17:04
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meeting time requests

Alvaro has put in for a 1.5 hour slot for the Berlin meeting.
Please let us know ASAP if you are would like significant time.
The cut-off for session requests is Monday so if we need more time, we'll
want to know very soon.

Alia
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internet-drafts | 24 May 2013 18:09
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I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib-10.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Framework for Loop-free convergence using oFIB
	Author(s)       : Mike Shand
                          Stewart Bryant
                          Stefano Previdi
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Pierre Francois
                          Olivier Bonaventure
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib-10.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2013-05-24

Abstract:
   This document describes an illustrative framework of a mechanism for
   use in conjunction with link state routing protocols which prevents
   the transient loops which would otherwise occur during topology
   changes.  It does this by correctly sequencing the forwarding
   information base (FIB) updates on the routers.

   This mechanism can be used in the case of non-urgent (management
   action) link or node shutdowns and restarts or link metric changes.
   It can also be used in conjunction with a fast re-route mechanism
   which converts a sudden link or node failure into a non-urgent
   topology change.  This is possible where a complete repair path is
   provided for all affected destinations.

   After a non-urgent topology change, each router computes a rank that
   defines the time at which it can safely update its FIB.  A method for
   accelerating this loop-free convergence process by the use of
   completion messages is also described.

   The technology described in this document has been subject to
   extensive simulation using real network topologies and costs, and
   pathological convergence behaviour.  However the mechanism described
   in this document are purely illustrative of the general approach and
   do not constitute a protocol specification.  The document represents
   a snapshot of the work of the Routing Area Working Group at the time
   of publication and is published as a document of record.  Further
   work is needed before implementation or deployment.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib-10

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib-10

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
internet-drafts | 24 May 2013 15:52
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I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-11.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : A Framework for IP and MPLS Fast Reroute Using Not-via Addresses
	Author(s)       : Stewart Bryant
                          Stefano Previdi
                          Mike Shand
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-11.txt
	Pages           : 32
	Date            : 2013-05-24

Abstract:
   This document presents an illustrative framework for providing fast
   reroute in an IP or MPLS network through encapsulation and forwarding
   to "not-via" addresses.  The general approach described uses a single
   level of encapsulation and could be used to protect unicast,
   multicast, and LDP traffic against link, router, and shared risk
   group failure, regardless of network topology and metrics.

   The mechanisms presented in this document are purely illustrative of
   the general approach and do not constitute a protocol specification.
   The document represents a snapshot of the work of the Routing Area
   Working Group at the time of publication and is published as a
   document of record.  Further work is needed before implementation or
   deployment.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-11

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-11

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
Pierre Francois | 20 May 2013 13:57
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Progressing with draft-litkowski-rtgwg-uloop-delay-00 ?


Dear rtgwg list members, 

I would like to know your opinion about what we should do with
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-litkowski-rtgwg-uloop-delay-00 , that we presented in Orlando. 

The idea was to avoid microloops occurring in the direct neighbourhood of a node shutting down or bringing
up a link in an IGP topology, by introducing some
fixed delay in the update of the FIB in the down case, and introducing a fixed delay in the propagation of the
LSP describing the link as up in the up case. 

The solution is simple, will be released by some in the upcoming months, and the Orlando audience was
seeming to find it interesting to work on.

Alia mentioned the interest of comparing this solution with the state of the art before going further with
the doc, so here it comes. 

Generally, compared to other solutions, local-delay does not provide full coverage, as it only avoids all
(but only)  microloops occurring locally to the affected node. However, 
in many networks, as shown by Stephane's analysis, it is already highly beneficial to have loop avoidance
there. Considering the simplicity of the approach, 
this looks like a low hanging fruit. 

Alia was considering a comparison  with PLSN. (described in
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-microloop-analysis-01, expired 7 years ago ;) )

The differences with the PLSN approach are the following: 

PLSN lets all routers having to converge for some destinations, try to understand the safety of their new
next hops, for each destination.
Based on this assessment, they either 

1. Transiently use a safe, non post-convergence, set of next hops, to finally converge to the
post-convergence one, or
2. Transiently use old next-hops, to finally converge to the post-convergence ones. 

Local delay can be defined as a subset of this approach: 
Only the node local to the event applies the procedure. 
Step 1 in PLSN is not applied, we only suggest the node to wait for a fixed time, no transient FIB state. 

I was considering a comparison with oFIB, draft-ietf-rtgwg-ordered-fib , submitted to IESG as
informational. 
local-delay can be defined as a subset of this approach:

While oFIB defines an ordering among all the nodes of the network, telling which node should wait for which
neighbours to be done with their update, before performing their own, local-delay tells the local node to
wait before fast convergence has happened in the rest of the network.

I think that despite the close relationships between these approaches, local-delay is worth being
documented on its own because:

It's simple, on its way to be supported, and provides loop avoidance where they happen to be the most
annoying.  

Cheers,

Pierre.
Alia Atlas | 14 May 2013 21:10
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any IPR on draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases?

In preparation for a WG Last Call, could the authors please send to the mailing list whether they are aware of any IPR associated with draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-use-cases?

Everyone else, if you know of any IPR, please send it to the list also.  If you're not sure - read the draft ;-)

thanks,
Alia
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hammondjohnson | 27 Apr 2013 20:03
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Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.

We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware

Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a 
payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the 
fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman 
of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from 
WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. 

We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts 
to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP.  DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped 
indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See 
http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the 
conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of
http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers 
about WORLDCOMP. 

The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific
to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than 
having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever!

Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, 
using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing 
out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published 
in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) 
who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using 
fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences
to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to 
threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). 
That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published 
at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. 

Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has 
refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image 
being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 
is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. 

The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee 
members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact 
details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! 

Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for 
all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal 
the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many 
papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at 
the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 

Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop 
this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. 

We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities 
http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com   Search Google using the 
keyword worldcomp fake for additional links.

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internet-drafts | 18 Apr 2013 19:15
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I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-mofrr-01.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Routing Area Working Group Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Multicast only Fast Re-Route
	Author(s)       : Apoorva Karan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Dino Farinacci
                          IJsbrand Wijnands
                          Bruno Decraene
                          Uwe Joorde
                          Wim Henderickx
	Filename        : draft-ietf-rtgwg-mofrr-01.txt
	Pages           : 15
	Date            : 2013-04-18

Abstract:
   As IPTV deployments grow in number and size, service providers are
   looking for solutions that minimize the service disruption due to
   faults in the IP network carrying the packets for these services.
   This draft describes a mechanism for minimizing packet loss in a
   network when node or link failures occur.  Multicast only Fast Re-
   Route (MoFRR) works by making simple enhancements to multicast
   routing protocols such as PIM and mLDP.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mofrr

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtgwg-mofrr-01

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtgwg-mofrr-01

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
Abdussalam Baryun | 10 Apr 2013 02:53
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Editors

Please note that I had difficulty in routing area or MANET WG explaing
my comments and discussing with editors just to understand my point of
views and edit few changes, but failed, it seems that they only follow
ADs, or I just don't know how they think.

Are editors taking any training?

AB

Gmane