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Otmar Lendl | 5 Nov 2007 15:15
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Re: [wg-business] WGLC fordraft-ietf-speermint-terminology-12

On 2007/10/26 01:10, Daryl Malas <daryl@...> wrote:
> Otmar, I apologize for taking so long to respond to your comments.

No need.

> (FYI...I'm updating the draft right now.)

I've just had a look, looks a lot better.  I'll send a review of this
version in a separate mail.

> > >                | 
> > >                | <--- ENUM lookup of NAPTR in Domain Name System (DNS) 
> > >                | 
> > >                | 
> > >                | ENUM Working Group Scope 
> > >           =====+==================================================== 
> > >                | SPEERMINT Working Group Scope 
> > >           Lookup 
> > >           Discovery <--- Session Establishment Data (SED)                    
> > >           SIP URI 
> > 
> > According to the SED definition below, SED is definitly not
> > the input into the speermint WG scope; instead I see it as
> > the result of this step:
> > 
> I disagree with some of this.  Although, I could agree the "SIP URI" is
> not part of the scope of SPEERMINT, it is derived of information
> attained through steps defined in SPEERMINT.
> 
> Lookup = Look-up Function
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Otmar Lendl | 5 Nov 2007 17:12
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Re: Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13

On 2007/11/01 00:11, Daryl Malas <daryl@...> wrote:
> 
> This revision updates the WGLC of rev 12 discussion points.  Please
> review the draft and provide feedback.

As promised, here is my review. IMHO we're getting there.

> 2.  SPEERMINT Context 
> 
>    Figure 1 depicts the general session peering context (Not in 
>    chronological order). Note that vertical axis in this figure 
>    describes the layering of identifiers, while the horizontal lines 
>    indicate working group scope. While the SPEERMINT working group is 
>    not limited (or coupled in any way) to the use of E.164 numbers, in 
>    the case shown here an E.164 number [5] is used as a key in an E.164 
>    to Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) mapping (ENUM [4]). The result 
>    of this step (which involves looking up Naming Authority Pointer 
>    (NAPTR) records in the DNS) is a SIP URI, on which the subsequent 
>    call routing is based. Note that the call routing step does not 
>    depend on the presence of an E.164 number. Indeed, the resulting SIP 
>    URI may no longer even contain any numbers of any type. In 
>    particular, the SIP URI can be advertised in various other ways, such 
>    as on a web page. 

Good.

>    Note that in Figure 1, Session Establishment Data (SED), is the data 
>    used to route a call to the called domain's ingress point (see 
>    Section 3.3 for additional detail).
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Livingood, Jason | 8 Nov 2007 19:30
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RE: Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13

Please upload this ID to the IETF site asap (today/tomorrow).  We should
always submit to the I-D editor at the same time that we post to some
private site for review for WG docs.

As soon as it is announced, we'll do a quick 2nd WGLC on -13.

Thanks
Jason 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daryl Malas [mailto:daryl@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:14 PM
> To: speermint@...
> Subject: [Speermint] Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13
> 
> In order to avoid several revisions prior to Vancouver, I 
> have place an updated draft here:
> http://www.malas.net-a.googlepages.com/draft-ietf-speermint-te
> rminology-13.txt
> 
> This revision updates the WGLC of rev 12 discussion points.  
> Please review the draft and provide feedback.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Daryl
> 
> 
> 
>
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Livingood, Jason | 8 Nov 2007 19:31
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RE: Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13

Keep in mind we're simply defining TERMINOLOGY here...

Jason 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Otmar Lendl [mailto:lendl@...] 
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:13 AM
> To: Daryl Malas
> Cc: speermint@...
> Subject: Re: [Speermint] Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13
> 
> On 2007/11/01 00:11, Daryl Malas <daryl@...> wrote:
> > 
> > This revision updates the WGLC of rev 12 discussion points.  Please 
> > review the draft and provide feedback.
> 
> As promised, here is my review. IMHO we're getting there.
> 
> > 2.  SPEERMINT Context
> > 
> >    Figure 1 depicts the general session peering context (Not in 
> >    chronological order). Note that vertical axis in this figure 
> >    describes the layering of identifiers, while the 
> horizontal lines 
> >    indicate working group scope. While the SPEERMINT 
> working group is 
> >    not limited (or coupled in any way) to the use of E.164 
> numbers, in 
> >    the case shown here an E.164 number [5] is used as a key 
> in an E.164
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IETF I-D Submission Tool | 8 Nov 2007 21:53
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New Version Notification for draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13


A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13.txt has been successfuly submitted by Daryl
Malas and posted to the IETF repository.

Filename:	 draft-ietf-speermint-terminology
Revision:	 13
Title:		 SPEERMINT Terminology
Creation_date:	 2007-11-08
WG ID:		 speermint
Number_of_pages: 13

Abstract:
This document defines the terminology that is to be used in 
describing Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect (SPEERMINT).

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Daryl Malas | 8 Nov 2007 22:04

RE: Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13

Done, look for it soon.

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 13:30 -0500, Livingood, Jason wrote:
> Please upload this ID to the IETF site asap (today/tomorrow).  We should
> always submit to the I-D editor at the same time that we post to some
> private site for review for WG docs.
> 
> As soon as it is announced, we'll do a quick 2nd WGLC on -13.
> 
> Thanks
> Jason 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daryl Malas [mailto:daryl@...] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:14 PM
> > To: speermint@...
> > Subject: [Speermint] Updated: draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13
> > 
> > In order to avoid several revisions prior to Vancouver, I 
> > have place an updated draft here:
> > http://www.malas.net-a.googlepages.com/draft-ietf-speermint-te
> > rminology-13.txt
> > 
> > This revision updates the WGLC of rev 12 discussion points.  
> > Please review the draft and provide feedback.
> > 
> > Thanks...
> > 
> > Daryl
> >
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I-D Action:draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : SPEERMINT Terminology
	Author(s)       : D. Malas, D. Meyer
	Filename        : draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2007-11-08

This document defines the terminology that is to be used in 
describing Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect (SPEERMINT).

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Livingood, Jason | 8 Nov 2007 22:22
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[wg-business] WGLC for draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13

	Title           : SPEERMINT Terminology
	Author(s)       : D. Malas, D. Meyer
	Filename        : draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2007-11-08
	
This document defines the terminology that is to be used in describing
Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect (SPEERMINT).

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-13.
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The intent of the last call is to solicit comments before submitting the
ID to the IESG.

The purpose of a working group Last Call is in the style of "speak now
or forever hold your peace" in case there are fundamental objections
which have not gotten previous or adequate discussion, or minor errors
which need correction.

Working group last call will extend for 2 weeks from today, 8 November
2007, until 22 November 2007.  Please note that this is the second WGLC
on this document.

Please post any comments in reply to the list, as well as to the
editor(s) of this draft.

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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-speermint-srv-naptr-use-02.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Use of DNS SRV and NAPTR Records for SPEERMINT
	Author(s)	: T. Creighton, J. Livingood
	Filename	: draft-ietf-speermint-srv-naptr-use-02.txt
	Pages		: 11
	Date		: 2007-11-9
	
The objective of this document is to specify the Best Current 
   Practice (BCP) adopted by a service provider providing multimedia 
   communication services such as Voice over Internet Protocol(VoIP) in 
   order to locate another service provider to peer with in the context 
   of Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect.

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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-03.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
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This draft is a work item of the Session PEERing for Multimedia INTerconnect Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: VoIP SIP Peering Use Cases
	Author(s)	: A. Uzelac, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-03.txt
	Pages		: 22
	Date		: 2007-11-13
	
This document will capture VoIP use case for SIP Peering.  It is a 
        consolidation of Speermint use cases drafts. This document depicts 
        many common VoIP peering use cases. These use cases are categorized 
        into three types: Direct, Indirect and Assisted. They are not the 
        exhaust set of use cases but the most common use cases deployed in 
        production today. This document captures them to provide a reference.

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