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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 1 Sep 2008 14:59
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Dan's AD notes for August 2008

Following the initiative of a couple of other ADs I am starting to send
activity notes at the end of each month. Please do not see these as a
complete report, but rather as a working space for my part of the area.
Please let me know if you find this useful and keep me honest by asking
questions, reminding me on action items I may be slow in answering and
filling in the details that I may have missed or gotten wrong. 

Thanks and regards,

Dan

IESG and other AD issues

- statement on modified interim meetings procedures
- DISCUSS on draft-ietf-pwe3-cep-mib
- DISCUSS on draft-ietf-ippm-storetraceroutes based on feedback and
discussions on the MIB-Doctors list
- individual submission  draft-iijima-netconf-soap-implementation -
working on RFC Editor Notes to answer issues raised by AD Pasi Eronen
- DISCUSS on draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-09 based on DNS-DIR review
from Peter Koch - cleared after publication of version 10
- DISCUSS and COMMENT on draft-cain-post-inch-phishingextns based on
DNS-DIR review by Peter Koch
- individual submission draft-sun-dime-itu-t-rw-01 in IESG review -
DISCUSSes by Chris Newman and Mark Townsley, ABSTAINs by David Ward and
Cullen Jennings based on extensibility and process issues
- nmrg submission draft-irtf-nmrg-snmp-measure approved by the IESG as
Informational RFC
- DISCUSS on L2VPN rechartering proposal because of unclear scope of
work related to OAM
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 2 Sep 2008 16:09
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Timeline for Scheduling BOFs for Minneapolis

The deadlines for IETF-73 are approaching fast. In particular, if people
are thinking of BOFs they should be talking to the ADs as soon as
possible. Here's the published timetable:

September 15, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to schedule Working
Group meetings and for preliminary BOF proposals to ADs at 17:00 PDT
(24:00 UTC/GMT).
September 29, Monday - Cutoff date for requests to Area Directors to
schedule BOFs at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT).
October 6, Monday - Cutoff date for Area Directors to approve BOF
requests at 17:00 PDT (24:00 UTC/GMT).

As usual, known BOFs will be listed at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki. So far we have not gotten any
proposal for OPS Area. If anything is in cooking please let us know as
soon as you can, but not later than this schedule shows. 

We shall also allow for mini-BOF sessions in the OPS Area Open meeting
as we have done for the last few sessions. These do not have such firm a
schedule, but of course the sooner we hear about them the better.

Dan
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 2 Sep 2008 19:07
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FW: IESG Statement on Revised guidance for interim meetings


-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-announce-bounces <at> ietf.org
[mailto:ietf-announce-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of IESG Secretary
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 8:00 PM
To: ietf-announce <at> ietf.org
Cc: ietf <at> ietf.org
Subject: IESG Statement on Revised guidance for interim meetings 

This statement provides IESG guidance on interim IETF Working Group
meetings, conference calls, and jabber sessions.

Historically the work of the IETF has been conducted over mailing lists.
This practice ensures the widest possible involvement in the working
group process. This practice is not as efficient in terms of producing
specifications as extended face-to-face meetings but is much more
inclusive. In general IETF face-to-face meetings are used to hold
high-bandwidth discussions on specific issues that have not been able to
be resolved on a mailing list or, in the case of BOFs, to get a common
understanding of the issues involved in a particular topic.
These face-to-face meetings can be quite important but are not
substitutes for mailing list discussions.

There is a long history in the IETF of working groups occasionally
holding "interim" face-to-face meetings between the regular IETF
meetings to focus on specific issues or resolve specific problems.

Some IETF working groups hold interim conference calls or jabber
sessions in lieu of interim face-to-face meetings and to accelerate the
working group process.
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 3 Sep 2008 12:42
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FW: interim meeting on the topic of ipv4-ipv6 co-existence


> An interim meeting will be organized on October 1 - 2 in Montreal, 
> Canada to continue discussions about the IPv4 and IPv6 co-existence, 
> NAT-PT replacement, and new tunneling or translation solutions to 
> address needs in this space. This is a meeting that affects work 
> happening in a number of WGs (SOFTWIRE, V6OPS, BEHAVE, INTAREA).
>
> A wiki page containing more information about the meeting has been set

> up at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/int/trac/wiki/v4v6interim
>
> We are currently working to provide hotel recommendations and other 
> details.
> _______________________________________________
> IETF-Announce mailing list
> IETF-Announce <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
>
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 3 Sep 2008 13:19
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FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec)


-----Original Message-----
From: iesg-bounces <at> iesg.org [mailto:iesg-bounces <at> iesg.org] On Behalf Of
The IESG
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:15 PM
To: new-work <at> ietf.org
Subject: WG Review: Recharter of Operational Security Capabilities for
IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) 

A modified charter has been submitted for the Operational Security
Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec) working group in the
Operations and Management Area of the IETF.  The IESG has not made any
determination as yet.  The modified charter is provided below for
informational purposes only.  Please send your comments to the IESG
mailing list (iesg <at> ietf.org) by Tuesday, September 9, 2008.

Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec)
=======================================================================

Last Modified: 2008-08-28

Current Status: Active Working Group

Chair(s):
Joe Abley
Joel Jaeggli 

Operations and Management Area Director(s):
Dan Romascanu
Ronald Bonica
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David Harrington | 3 Sep 2008 19:36
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Re: FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec)

Hi,

Personally, I think the scope is not clearly defined. The very wide
scope makes me concerned that this WG could be one of those that goes
on forever, because very little seems to be out of scope. 

I am also concerned that this is no longer just focused on documenting
best current practice, but also is taking on the task of proposals for
new approaches to operational challenges.

One reason why I am concerned is that proposals for other WGs could be
denied on the basis that whatever work somebody else wants to do on
best current practices or new approaches to operational challenges
could be denied because such work would already fit into the OPsec WG
scope. I do not think one WG should claim such a large scope.

David Harrington
dbharrington <at> comcast.net
ietfdbh <at> comcast.net
dharrington <at> huawei.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ops-area-bounces <at> ietf.org 
> [mailto:ops-area-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:20 AM
> To: ops-area (IETF); MIB Doctors (E-mail); 
> aaa-doctors <at> ietf.org; IETF DNS Directorate
> Subject: [OPS-AREA] FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational 
> SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec)
>
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Ron Bonica | 8 Sep 2008 17:30
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Re: FW: WG Review: Recharter of Operational SecurityCapabilities for IP Network Infrastructure (opsec)


David Harrington wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Personally, I think the scope is not clearly defined. The very wide
> scope makes me concerned that this WG could be one of those that goes
> on forever, because very little seems to be out of scope.

Dan,

OPSEC is intended to be a long-lived working group. This is because
operational challenges change from year to year. When a new operational
challenge crops up, there is a distinct benefit derived from having a WG
in place with some institutional history.

OPSEC would by no means be the only long lived WG in the OPS area.
DNSOPS, V6OPS, and GROW all come to mind.

However, OPSEC scope is not unbounded. OPSEC cannot define a protocol.
Given a new operational challenge, it has only two choices:

- apply the technology at hand
- generate a requirement and toss it over the wall to another WG

> 
> I am also concerned that this is no longer just focused on documenting
> best current practice, but also is taking on the task of proposals for
> new approaches to operational challenges.

I'm not sure that I understand what you are getting at. Could you be
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 10 Sep 2008 15:03
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Advice on draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management

The editor of draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-management is requiring
input on an number of open issues in the document. The questions are
listed in the following archived mails: 

- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00274.html
- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00275.html
- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00276.html
- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00277.html
- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00278.html
- http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/opsawg/current/msg00279.html

Please help the editor by providing guidance on the questions about, and
by reading the document and providing your comments. 

The document is available at
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-opsawg-operations-and-man
agement-04.txt

Thanks and Regards,

Dan
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 10 Sep 2008 16:05
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OPS Area Open Hours

Thus is a reminder that Ron Bonica and Dan Romascanu are holding Open
Hours to discuss issues related to the IETF Operations and Management
Area on the first and third Tuesday of each month at noon - 1PM PT /
3-4PM ET / 9-10PM CET. 

All WG chairs, document editors, contributors, participants and in
general all interested to talk with us about the area and IETF business
are invited to ask for a meeting slot using the space at the OPS Area
wiki -
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/WikiStart?version=87 ,
and/or to write us directly at rbonica <at> juniper.net or
dromasca <at> avaya.com. An e-mail will be sent in response to acknowledge
the time slot and provide a telephone bridge number to be used in the
call. 

The next open slots are on Tuesday 9/16. 

See you there. 

Ron and Dan
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Ron Bonica | 10 Sep 2008 16:32
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IESG Selection

Folks,

This year, my term on the IESG will expire. Although I intend to run for
another term, I would like to encourage others to submit their names as
candidates, also.

In any healthy organization, there should be more than a few people who
are capable of leading. As the O&M area is fairly healthy, I believe
that we many such people and it would be rewarding to see them step forward.

                                  Ron
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