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john.loughney | 1 Apr 2007 20:13
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RMD WGLC Extension

I discussed this with Martin and agree that we should extend the WGLC by
one week.  We need to get comments that the WG has read the document and
is comfortable with forwarding this to the IESG.  As noted during the
IESG Review of GIST, the IESG will take a very critical review of all of
our WG's documents, so we need to be sure that we have consensus behind
this.

John

> Hi all,
>
> Noone has commented about the RMD document during the WGLC.  Does this

> mean everyone is OK with the current document and feel it accurately 
> reflects WG concensus?  Or does it mean noone has read it, and the 
> interest level is low from the WG?
>
> Could people who have read the document please send a mail saying so?
> For people who have an opinion,
> please comment.  I need this information before I can send this 
> forward to the IESG.
>
> John
>
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David Palma | 2 Apr 2007 11:38
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Summary Refreshes on QoS NSLP

Hi all,

I'm from the University of Coimbra and I've been working on QoS NSLP v13.

When reading about summary refreshes I wondered how we could decide what
sessions to include in the summary refreshes list. I believe that we could
not only include ready to refresh sessions but also sessions that in will
shortly (less than one second or so) be ready to refresh.

Is this assumption correct? Is there any way to calculate whether we should
refresh a session earlier or not, so that we can include it in the summary
refresh list?

Thank you in advance,
David Palma

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philip.eardley | 2 Apr 2007 13:06
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RE: RMD WGLC Extension

Do you think the document should mention the PCN WG? To me, the
relationship with PCN seems an obvious thing for the iesg to ask.

For example maybe the doc could explain that part of RMD forms "part of
some research or development effort" that has (is) contributing to PCN
WG standardisation [quote from BCP9 about Experimental docs]. I don't
know if something more detailed would be expected?

Best wishes
Philip Eardley 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: john.loughney <at> nokia.com [mailto:john.loughney <at> nokia.com]
> Sent: 01 April 2007 19:14
> To: nsis <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [NSIS] RMD WGLC Extension
> 
> I discussed this with Martin and agree that we should extend the WGLC
by
> one week.  We need to get comments that the WG has read the document
and
> is comfortable with forwarding this to the IESG.  As noted during the
> IESG Review of GIST, the IESG will take a very critical review of all
of
> our WG's documents, so we need to be sure that we have consensus
behind
> this.
> 
> John
>
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Jukka MJ Manner | 2 Apr 2007 19:25
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Re: Summary Refreshes on QoS NSLP


Hi David,

What you describe is an implementation issue and depends on the 
deployment. Thus, we can't give any solution. Something along your 
description could be one way forward.

Cheers,
Jukka

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, David Palma wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm from the University of Coimbra and I've been working on QoS NSLP v13.
> 
> When reading about summary refreshes I wondered how we could decide what
> sessions to include in the summary refreshes list. I believe that we could
> not only include ready to refresh sessions but also sessions that in will
> shortly (less than one second or so) be ready to refresh.
> 
> Is this assumption correct? Is there any way to calculate whether we should
> refresh a session earlier or not, so that we can include it in the summary
> refresh list?
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> David Palma
> 
>
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Internet-Drafts | 3 Apr 2007 00:50
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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Y.1541-QOSM -- Y.1541 QoS Model for Networks Using Y.1541 QoS Classes
	Author(s)	: J. Ash, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt
	Pages		: 11
	Date		: 2007-4-2
	
This draft describes a QoS-NSLP QoS model (QOSM) based on ITU-T
   Recommendation Y.1541 QoS signaling requirements.  Y.1541 specifies 8
   standard QoS classes, and the Y.1541-QOSM extensions include
   additional QSPEC parameters and QOSM processing guidelines.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt

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Internet-Drafts | 3 Apr 2007 00:50
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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: Y.1541-QOSM -- Y.1541 QoS Model for Networks Using Y.1541 QoS Classes
	Author(s)	: J. Ash, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt
	Pages		: 11
	Date		: 2007-4-2
	
This draft describes a QoS-NSLP QoS model (QOSM) based on ITU-T
   Recommendation Y.1541 QoS signaling requirements.  Y.1541 specifies 8
   standard QoS classes, and the Y.1541-QOSM extensions include
   additional QSPEC parameters and QOSM processing guidelines.

A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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ASH, GERALD R, ATTLABS | 3 Apr 2007 01:29
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RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt

Hi All,

Editorial changes have been made to "Y.1541-QOSM -- Y.1541 QoS Model for
Networks Using Y.1541 QoS Classes"
(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt)
to conform to changes in the QSPEC draft over the last few months.  Also
updated the IANA Considerations section to specify required QSPEC
parameter IDs and new registry.

The draft should now be ready for WGLC. 

Thanks,
Jerry

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Subject: [NSIS] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt 

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Next Steps in Signaling Working Group
of the IETF.

	Title		: Y.1541-QOSM -- Y.1541 QoS Model for Networks
Using Y.1541 QoS Classes
	Author(s)	: J. Ash, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-nsis-y1541-qosm-04.txt
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Andrew McDonald | 3 Apr 2007 11:24
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Parsing QSpec with Initiator/Local QSpec

Hi Jerry,

I'm currently trying to work out how to correctly parse QSpec objects 
where there are both Local and Initiator QSpecs.

My understanding is that the format is roughly:
QSpec Header
[1 or more QSpec objects]
QSpec Header
[1 or more QSpec objects]

On my current understanding, I seem to be able to reach a situation 
where I'm processing the first set of QSpec objects, and I don't know 
whether the next thing I'm looking at is another QSpec object or the 
second QSpec header.

I thought that the combination of QoS NSLP message type and QSpec Proc 
(Msg Seq + Obj Comb) should tell me what set of QSpec objects to expect 
in each case. However, there is one case where this is unclear, i.e.:
Message Sequence = 1
Object Combination = 2
QoS NSLP Message = RESERVE
(see section 5.3.2)

I'm a little unclear, but I think the (Min QoS) is not always there. Is 
that a correct interpretation?

If so, then at this point in processing the QSpec I can't be sure 
whether the next thing I expect is a Min QoS object or a second QSpec 
header.
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Georgios Karagiannis | 3 Apr 2007 12:00
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RE: RMD WGLC Extension

Hi John

Note that we need to do some few changes that are related 
to the current discussion status of QSPEC template draft.
Further I had a comment on retransmissions on the RMD-QOSM aware domain.
We will also have to work this out!

Best Regards,
Georgios

> -----Original Message-----
> From: john.loughney <at> nokia.com [mailto:john.loughney <at> nokia.com] 
> Sent: zondag 1 april 2007 20:14
> To: nsis <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [NSIS] RMD WGLC Extension
> 
> I discussed this with Martin and agree that we should extend 
> the WGLC by one week.  We need to get comments that the WG 
> has read the document and is comfortable with forwarding this 
> to the IESG.  As noted during the IESG Review of GIST, the 
> IESG will take a very critical review of all of our WG's 
> documents, so we need to be sure that we have consensus behind this.
> 
> John
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Noone has commented about the RMD document during the WGLC. 
>  Does this
>
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Roland Bless | 3 Apr 2007 12:04
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Next NSIS Interop Test Event

Hi all,

as already announced, the next NSIS Interop is taking place
in Karlsruhe Germany, hosted by the Institute of Telematics,
May 9th - 11th, 2007.

Please find more information at the following link:
https://projekte.tm.uka.de/trac/NSIS/wiki/Interop-20070509

Regards,
 Roland
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