Rescheduled BEHAVE WG Virtual Interim Meeting: Thursday, February 16, 7am PST

Due to a scheduling conflict, the BEHAVE audio conference interim 
meeting is being rescheduled.  The previously-scheduled
February 3 interim meeting is cancelled.

NEW DATE AND TIME: Thursday, February 16, 7am-8:30am Pacific Standard 
Time (San Francisco, GMT-08:00).

Agenda and audio conference details published at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/trac/wiki/WikiStart

Fwd: I-D Action: draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-00.txt

We sat down over beers in Taipei (thanks Hadriel!) to resolve the differences
between the two TURN URIs drafts and agreed on common ground.  This new draft
merges the best of these two drafts and we are now submitting it to the BEHAVE
WG (where the original discussion about TURN URI took place) for consideration.

We would like to present this work at the next BEHAVE interim meeting or at
any other venue that the chairs would prefer.

The reference implementation has been updated and is available at the URL
indicated in the draft.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: I-D Action: draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-00.txt
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:35:53 -0800
From: internet-drafts <at> ietf.org
Reply-To: internet-drafts <at> ietf.org
To: i-d-announce <at> ietf.org

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

	Title           : Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN) Uniform Resource
Identifiers
	Author(s)       : Marc Petit-Huguenin
                          Suhas Nandakumar
                          Gonzalo Salgueiro
                          Paul E. Jones
	Filename        : draft-petithuguenin-behave-turn-uris-00.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2012-02-02

CGN NAT MIB slides for BEHAVE Interim meeting

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perreault <at> viagenie.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:52 AM
To: Dan Wing
Subject: Slides

Dan,

Here are a few slides for my presentation.

Simon
--

-- 
DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca
NAT64/DNS64 open-source        --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca
STUN/TURN server               --> http://numb.viagenie.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Perreault [mailto:simon.perreault <at> viagenie.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:52 AM
To: Dan Wing
Subject: Slides

Dan,

Here are a few slides for my presentation.

BEHAVE interim meeting, webex, Friday, March 2

We ran over time for today's interim meeting and still missed two
presentations.  

This email announces another BEHAVE interim meeting, webex teleconferencing
only, on Friday, March 2, at 7am Pacific Standard Time.  Agenda, Webex, and
dialin details are at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/trac/wiki/WikiStart

We hope to have the two presentations that we missed on the agenda (assuming
the authors can attend), and hope to have updates from authors of
draft-perreault-opsawg-natmib-bis and
draft-penno-behave-rfc4787-5382-5508-bis.

-d

slides from today's interim meeting

Slides from today's interim meeting are posted as Attachments at the bottom
of
  http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/trac/wiki/WikiStart

These will move to some IETF Proceedings repository.  When that happens, I
will add a pointer on that Wiki page.

Thanks to everyone that presented and everyone that attended.  We ran 30
minutes late, but still did not get to all of our agenda items.

-d

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis-05

Dear SM,

Thank you for your review.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med 

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+ietf <at> elandsys.com] 
> Envoyé : jeudi 16 février 2012 20:48
> À : apps-discuss <at> ietf.org; 
> draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis.all <at> tools.ietf.org
> Cc : behave <at> ietf.org
> Objet : APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis-05
> 
> I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer 
> for this draft (for background on appsdir, please see 
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsArea
> Directorate ).
> 
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments 
> you may receive. Please wait for direction from your document 
> shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis-05
> Title: Analysis of Stateful 64 Translation
> Reviewer: S. Moonesamy
> Review Date: February 16, 2012

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis-05

Re-,

Thank you for the clarifications. I updated the document accordingly.

Cheers,
Med 

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+ietf <at> elandsys.com] 
> Envoyé : vendredi 17 février 2012 08:57
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed OLNC/NAD/TIP; apps-discuss <at> ietf.org; 
> draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis.all <at> tools.ietf.org
> Cc : behave <at> ietf.org
> Objet : RE: APPSDIR review of draft-ietf-behave-64-analysis-05
> 
> Hi Med,
> At 22:51 16-02-2012, mohamed.boucadair <at> orange.com wrote:
> >In some deployment it can be SPOF but in others no. This depends if 
> >the a distributed NAT model is adopted, if NAT state synchronization 
> >mechanisms are enabled, etc. Do we need to clarify this in 
> the document?
> 
> It would help the reader if that could be clarified.
> 
> >The IPv4 address pool used by the NAT64 to service IPv6 hosts. 
> >Several IPv6 hosts may share the same IPv4 address. Do you think 
> >this need a clarification in the document?
> 
> I recommend a clarification as there is a proposal about 
> shared address space.

WebEx meetings vs Paris IETF

Thanks to those who participated in last week's WebEx interim.  We'll post the minutes to the list shortly.
The same day, our AD informed all TSV WG chairs that Paris has an extremely tight schedule and was looking
for groups willing to give up a slot.    We discussed the results of our interim in that context and have decided
to schedule probably 2 WebEx interims, one shortly before Paris and one shortly after Paris in lieu of taking
up a scarce meeting slot.   This means there will be no Behave session in Paris.  We hope that work will
continue and that people will actively participate in the WebEx interim(s).

Dave Thaler and Dan Wing
WG Chairs

NAT64: clarification on RST handling in V6 FIN RCV state

<div>
<div class="Section1">
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">RFC 6146, section 3.5.2.2, says that in V6 FIN RCV state *any* packet other than V4 FIN must set the session lifetime to no less than TCP_EST=2hours.
<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If the V4 target sent RST in response to the translated V6 FIN, what is the reason to keep the NAT mapping alive for TCP_EST instead of TCP_TRANS?<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Should the language &ldquo;if a V4 FIN packet is received,&hellip; lifetime is set to TCP_TRANS&rdquo; be changed to &ldquo;if a V4 FIN or V4 RST packet is received,&hellip; lifetime is set to TCP_TRANS&rdquo;?<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">-Dmitry<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
</div>
</div>

call for agenda items, BEHAVE interim meeting, Friday, March 2

This upcoming Friday, March 2, we have a BEHAVE interim meeting scheduled,
via audio bridge and screen sharing.  Current agenda and details are at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/behave/trac/wiki.  If you would like to be on
the agenda, please email the chairs at behave-chairs <at> tools.ietf.org.

Reminder:  As Dave wrote in
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/behave/current/msg10289.html, BEHAVE
will not be meeting at IETF83 in Paris.  

Thanks,
-d