Jouni Korhonen | 29 Jul 15:04 2014
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Fwd: Cancelled meeting: DMM Re-chartering - telco #2

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Topic: DMM re-chartering
Date: Wednesday 30 July 2014
Time: 18:00, Northern Europe Summer Time (Helsinki, GMT+03:00)

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Jouni Korhonen | 29 Jul 15:03 2014
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Fwd: Cancelled meeting: DMM Re-chartering - telco #1


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Topic: DMM Re-chartering
Date: Tuesday 29 July 2014
Time: 19:30, Northern Europe Summer Time (Helsinki, GMT+03:00)

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Jouni Korhonen | 28 Jul 14:18 2014
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re-chartering telce #1

Hello,

As discussed during the IETF90 WG meeting, we are going to have these 
telcos to complete the charter text. This is the call #1.

- Jouni & Dapeng

Topic: DMM Re-chartering
Date: Tuesday 29 July 2014
Time: 19:30, Northern Europe Summer Time (Helsinki, GMT+03:00)
Meeting Number: 641 429 385
Meeting Password: dmm1234

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Jouni Korhonen | 28 Jul 14:17 2014
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re-chartering telco #2

Hello,

As discussed during the IETF90 WG meeting, we are going to have these 
telcos to complete the charter text. This is the call #2.

- Jouni & Dapeng

Topic: DMM re-chartering
Date: Wednesday 30 July 2014
Time: 18:00, Northern Europe Summer Time (Helsinki, GMT+03:00)
Meeting Number: 645 872 395
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Jouni Korhonen | 24 Jul 23:49 2014
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regarding the re-chartering..

Folks,

The latest charter draft can be found here:
https://github.com/jounikor/dmm-re-charter/blob/master/recharter_draft.txt

The deadline for the text chnges are 31st July. I'll setup a call for 
next week so that those who want to dial in and have verbal commenting 
can do that. In a meanwhile, email works as usual for updates and 
comments on the text. The actual milestone dates are to be done last but 
suggestions are more than welcome.

- Jouni & Dapeng
Jouni Korhonen | 23 Jul 19:11 2014
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notes takes for the thursday and friday sessions

If you feel like volunteering, let the chairs know.

- JOuni & Dapeng
Brian Haberman | 23 Jul 16:36 2014
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Re: IETF#90 DMM agenda update


On 7/23/14 10:16 AM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
> So my question is what guarantees that is the DT is going to produce
> the right solution and why repeat the history again?
> 

Who said that *if* a DT is formed that its output is considered special?

http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/design-team.html

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Jouni Korhonen | 23 Jul 16:20 2014
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Re: IETF#90 DMM agenda update

Behcet,

7/23/2014 5:16 PM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti:
> Hi Jouni,
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Jouni Korhonen
<jouni.nospam@...> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> meetings and setting up small groups (or design teams) to work on the
                                         ^^^
> Design teams?

Exact form is still to be decided.

- Jouni
pierrick.seite | 23 Jul 10:13 2014

Re: IETF#90 DMM agenda update


>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : dmm [mailto:dmm-bounces@...] De la part de Behcet Sarikaya
>Envoyé : mardi 22 juillet 2014 19:04
>À : Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
>Cc : dmm@...
>Objet : Re: [DMM] IETF#90 DMM agenda update
>
>On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave)
><sgundave@...> wrote:
>> I think you are mixing the topics here.
>
>I am not sure who?
>How can you talk about deployment without having a solution?
>Deployment where?
>
>>
>> Any case, I don't have plans to write one ..
>
>I know that and that's why I kept asking, just in case you might change your
>mind.
>
>Maybe you can write a draft evaluating existing proposals from your
>"architecture" and your "deployment" point of view.
>

Worth to be considered IMHO: draft-liu-dmm-deployment-scenario 

>Behcet
>
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Satoshi Usui | 22 Jul 20:28 2014
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Demo for "Stateless user-plane for vEPC"

Hi all,

I am ready for presenting a demo for "Stateless user-plane for vEPC",
which is the same demo in London and with some updates,
but I couldn't reserve a room in IETF90.

[1] http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-matsushima-stateless-uplane-vepc/

Does anyone have an interest on this?
I'd like to consider presenting a demo or some other time.

Regards,
Satoshi
Jouni Korhonen | 22 Jul 16:49 2014
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IETF#90 DMM agenda update

Folks,

The agenda has been slightly updated (shuffling around the slots and 
arranging more time to the charter/next steps discussion). Some 
presenters are affected slightly (-5 minutes). see 
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/agenda/agenda-90-dmm

Regarding the re-chartering and the next steps. We have a tight deadline 
to meet if we want to ship the new charter text to the next IESG 
telechat. Brian will reveal the gory details of the expected 
re-chartering process and timelines.

We are also supposed to come up (again) with a rought agreement of the 
deployment architecture(s) that DMM "functional elements" map into. This 
will be discussed as a part of the re-chartering slot and recapping the 
discussions we had earlier.

We are also supposed to come up with a rough agreement how to progress 
from now on. This could mean (note the conditionality here) a series of 
interim meetings and setting up small groups (or design teams) to work 
on the initial set of the solution space drafts. We need to step out of 
the "progress every second IETF meeting" mode ;)

Also keep in mind that the start of the new work poses some 
serialization whether we want or now: first stabilize charter & reach 
rough consensus on the deployment models/functional elements. These can 
be done in parallel. Note that rough consensus does not mean a ready 
spec or spec at all. Second execute with the solutions space.. the 
deployment models work might benefit from having a slight heads up 
before other drafts. These can be done in parallel, though. As a 
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