Alexandru Petrescu | 12 Nov 06:43 2014
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Mobile IPv6 maintenance: HA never deletes a tunnel

Hello,

There is a bug in an otherwise very good Mobile IPv6 Home Agent 
implementation.  This particular Home Agent never deletes a tunnel 
interface.  As such it does not support MNs which are silent for a 
while; when they come back up the tunnel is still there and cant be 
modified.

A forcing de-register (BU lifetime 0) does not delete it either.

This particular platform has a good Mobile IPv4 implementation.

Am I the only one to experience this bug?

Alex
Jouni Korhonen | 10 Nov 14:48 2014
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meeting slides

Folks,

Send your slide material to the chairs latest by Tuesday lunchtime.

Jouni & Dapeng
The IESG | 7 Nov 18:44 2014
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Document Action: 'Distributed Mobility Management: Current practices and gap analysis' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-09.txt)

The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Distributed Mobility Management: Current practices and gap analysis'
  (draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-09.txt) as Informational
RFC

This document is the product of the Distributed Mobility Management
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Brian Haberman and Ted Lemon.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis/

Technical Summary

   The present document analyzes deployment practices of existing IP
   Mobility protocols in a distributed mobility management environment.
   The analyzed IP level (i.e., layer 3) mobility protocols include those
   developed by IETF and also those developed by other SDOs that have
   been widely deployed. Due the plurality of different mobility enabling 
   protocol and solutions, the analysis has been intentionally limited to
   IP level (i.e., layer 3) protocol that typically are based on some sort of
   tunneling solution. The document then identifies existing limitations when
   compared to the distributed mobility management requirements defined in
   draft-ietf-dmm-requirements for a distributed mobility management solution.

   On the existing IP mobility enabling architectures (outside mobile VPNs or
   IETF defined IP mobility solutions), the document considers only the 3GPP 
   GPRS/EPS system and service provider Wi-Fi due their dominant positions
   in the market place.
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Marco Liebsch | 2 Nov 21:40 2014
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[FPSM] Work Item call#2 agenda and WebEx info

Please find below the WebEx details for the 2nd work item call on Forwarding Path and Signaling Management.

Thanks to Sri for providing the WebEx communications platform.

The call is scheduled on Monday, 3rd Nov 2014 from 16:00 CET / 07:00am PST. Duration is 90 min.

 

Below are the proposed items for the call’s agenda. Please let me know if you have additional
agenda items in mind which we should discuss during this call.

 

--- Draft agenda FPSM WI call#2 ---

 

-          Tools: platform for slides/document sharing, WebEx

-          Discussion of categories and associated use cases

o   Tunnel Management

o   Routing Policy Management

o   IP Route Management

o   Traffic Steering Policies

o   QoS Policies

o   Queries

o   Notifications

-          Need for session awareness at DPA/DPN?

 

 

 

 

 

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Alper Yegin | 1 Nov 17:36 2014

Fwd: Invitation to WebEx meeting: IETF DMM Mobility Exposure & Selection WT call#2

Second conference call for Mobility Exposure & Selection WT is on Nov 6th, 4:30-6:00pm (GMT+02).
Webex details are below.

In this call, we'll discuss the following item (among the ones we determined on the first call):

- Describe how IP address type is communicated between the apps and IP stack on the MN.

Alper









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Alexandru Petrescu | 29 Oct 16:15 2014
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Maintenance of Mobile IPv6

Hello,

There are a few things that I think are needed for the maintenance of 
protocol Mobile IPv6; most important appear first:

- help with automated portal authentication in WLAN.  Hopping on and
   off from a WiFi hotspot to another, even without moving physically,
   is often obstructed by web portal authentication requiring user
   to type to fill forms; this is not only inconvenient, but in some
   cases it is impossible, like with vehicular networks where the
   driver is forbidden by law to type while behind the wheel.

- bugs in an otherwise reliable Mobile IPv6 implementation of
   a particular equipment manufacturer (HA never deletes a tunnel,
   lifetime: remaining never): should the bugs be corrected or shoudl
   the spec modified to reflect what the implementation actually
   does?  Should protocol workarounds be designed to deal with this
   problem?

- future of the maintenance of the linux open source Mobile IPv6
   implementation: just for my clarification - is it still ok?  Is there
   some project behind it?  Or is it dying?  Currently the email list
   seems silent, and the latest software releases date back to more than
   one year.

- elimination, or reducing the effect, of the necessity of the 'focal
   point' Home Agent: route optimization for the masses and for moving
   networks as deployed in vehicles.

- Mobile IPv6 and IPv6 NAT Traversal;

- IPv6 NAT in a moving network;

- bypassing Mobile IPv6 implementation (and use IPv6 NATting) in cases
   of particular applications, based on destination IPv6 address and
   IPv6-only-when-reversed FQDN name.

- the use of ULAs combined with Global addresses, with Mobile IPv6
   (e.g. ULA HoA but GUA CoA, or reverse).

What do you think?

Alex
Charlie Perkins | 28 Oct 19:51 2014
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Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-perkins-dmm-privacy-00.txt

Hello folks,

We have put together a draft about privacy considerations for DMM.

Privacy is a very timely subject, and I think that it should be a kept in
mind during all design phases for the DMM teams.

This is a simple and short draft to invite discussion.  No doubt there
is a lot of room for expansion of the discussion, and we will be happy
to incorporate other guidelines or references to other relevant IETF
publications that may be suggested.

I have requested a time slot at the upcoming IETF for a discussion
about privacy as it is related to DMM protocol development.

Regards,
Charlie P.


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A new version of I-D, draft-perkins-dmm-privacy-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Charles E. Perkins and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-perkins-dmm-privacy Revision: 00 Title: Privacy considerations for DMM Document date: 2014-10-26 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-perkins-dmm-privacy-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perkins-dmm-privacy/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-perkins-dmm-privacy-00 Abstract: Recent events have emphasized the importance of privacy in protocol design. This document describes ways in which DMM protocol designs and DMM networks can reduce certain threats to privacy. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat

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Charlie Perkins | 28 Oct 19:45 2014
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Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01.txt


Hello folks,

The MNIDs draft has been updated.  Comments are welcome, and the
draft will be discussed at the Hawaii meeting if there is time.

Regards,
Charlie P.



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A new version of I-D, draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Charles E. Perkins and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids Revision: 01 Title: MN Identifier Types for RFC 4283 Mobile Node Identifier Option Document date: 2014-10-27 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 7 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids/ Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-perkins-dmm-4283mnids-01 Abstract: Additional Identifier Types are proposed for use with the Mobile Node Identifier Option for MIPv6 (RFC 4283). Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat

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Weixinpeng | 27 Oct 08:50 2014

FW: New Version Notification for draft-wei-dmm-address-management-00.txt

Hi all, 
A draft on IP address management in DMM is submitted, I think how IP addresses should be managed in DMM
network is very essential to
source address selection on mobile side, and mobility management signaling on network side, so there
should be a consensus on IP address management issue.

Comments are welcomed! Thanks!

-Xinpeng

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>A new version of I-D, draft-wei-dmm-address-management-00.txt
>has been successfully submitted by Xinpeng Wei and posted to the IETF
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>Name:		draft-wei-dmm-address-management
>Revision:	00
>Title:		IP Address Management in DMM
>Document date:	2014-10-27
>Group:		Individual Submission
>Pages:		7
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>Abstract:
>   This document provides an IP address management solution for DMM
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Dapeng Liu | 26 Oct 16:06 2014
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Draft agenda for IETF91

Draft agenda for IETF91 has been uploaded. 

Since we have formed 4 working teams during the interim, we will give most of our agenda time for the working teams.

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Best Regards,
Dapeng Liu
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Max | 26 Oct 15:41 2014
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Minutes for Interim call#2

Minutes for interim call#2 is uploaded.


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