Raphael Tryster | 15 Jun 2010 09:26

Does an event generated by strict=state stop signals?

Megaco stipulates that detection of an event should stop any signal that is playing.  Does an existing hook state, reported immediately with init=true because the MGC requested strict=state, count as an event for the purpose of stopping signals?

 

If the answer is yes, then we could have the following scenario:

 

1.       MG sends Notify al/of.

2.       MGC sends Modify, requesting signal cg/dt, and events al/of{strict=state},al/on(strict=state}.

3.       MG immediately sends Notify al/of{init=true}, and stops the dial tone!

 

A variation of the above is when the strict parameter is omitted, but the MG decides to assume strict=state because it is working with Megaco version 1 or 2, where no default is specified.

 

Possible conclusions:

 

1.       This is not a real event and the signal should not be stopped.

2.       This is a real event and the MGC is stupid to send such a command.

3.       This is a real event, and if strict is not specified, the MG must assume strict=exact.

 

I await the experts' opinion.

 

Raphael Tryster

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Tom Taylor | 15 Jun 2010 14:24

Re: Does an event generated by strict=state stop signals?

I go for interpretation 2.

Raphael Tryster wrote:
> Megaco stipulates that detection of an event should stop any signal that
> is playing.  Does an existing hook state, reported immediately with
> init=true because the MGC requested strict=state, count as an event for
> the purpose of stopping signals?
> 
>  
> 
> If the answer is yes, then we could have the following scenario:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.       MG sends Notify al/of.
> 
> 2.       MGC sends Modify, requesting signal cg/dt, and events
> al/of{strict=state},al/on(strict=state}.
> 
> 3.       MG immediately sends Notify al/of{init=true}, and stops the
> dial tone!
> 
>  
> 
> A variation of the above is when the strict parameter is omitted, but
> the MG decides to assume strict=state because it is working with Megaco
> version 1 or 2, where no default is specified.
> 
>  
> 
> Possible conclusions:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.       This is not a real event and the signal should not be stopped.
> 
> 2.       This is a real event and the MGC is stupid to send such a
> command.
> 
> 3.       This is a real event, and if strict is not specified, the MG
> must assume strict=exact.
> 
>  
> 
> I await the experts' opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> Raphael Tryster
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Christian Groves | 16 Jun 2010 01:56

Re: Does an event generated by strict=state stop signals?

Hello Raphael,

I think it is a real event so the behaviour would be to send the notify 
and stop the dial tone. So I think conclusion 2 is the one to take. 
However I think conclusion 3 is also applicable. Megaco v1, v2, or v3 
really is only for the syntax and procedures surrounding that. In the 
case of the Analog Line Supervision Package (al) the package version has 
remained at v1 for all Megaco versions. Therefore the inclusion of the 
default should be seen as correcting an omission. So the MG should 
assume strict=exact if strict is not specified (unless provisioned 
otherwise :-) ).

Regards, Christian

On 15/06/2010 5:26 PM, Raphael Tryster wrote:
>
> Megaco stipulates that detection of an event should stop any signal 
> that is playing.  Does an existing hook state, reported immediately 
> with init=true because the MGC requested strict=state, count as an 
> event for the purpose of stopping signals?
>
> If the answer is yes, then we could have the following scenario:
>
> 1. MG sends Notify al/of.
>
> 2. MGC sends Modify, requesting signal cg/dt, and events 
> al/of{strict=state},al/on(strict=state}.
>
> 3. MG immediately sends Notify al/of{init=true}, and stops the dial tone!
>
> A variation of the above is when the strict parameter is omitted, but 
> the MG decides to assume strict=state because it is working with 
> Megaco version 1 or 2, where no default is specified.
>
> Possible conclusions:
>
> 1. This is not a real event and the signal should not be stopped.
>
> 2. This is a real event and the MGC is stupid to send such a command.
>
> 3. This is a real event, and if strict is not specified, the MG must 
> assume strict=exact.
>
> I await the experts' opinion.
>
> Raphael Tryster
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
>    
Kukosa, Tomas | 17 Jun 2010 10:59

H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

Hello,

I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can do and what can't.

I am not able to find any documents related to following topics/questions:

1) RFC2833/RFC2198
  - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the MG? (used payload types, list of supported
tones, ...)
  - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities to the MG termination?

2) SRTP/MIKEY
 - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer
media endpoint ?(can be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of SRTP endpoint)

BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I understand it well it can not use SDP equivalent
properties, is it right?

Thanks in advance for any hint.

Best regards,
  Tomas
Raphael Tryster | 17 Jun 2010 11:18

Re: Does an event generated by strict=state stop signals?

Thank you, Tom and Christian, for your replies.  The actual case that
prompted my question was one in which conclusion 3 applies.  As you
said, "unless provisioned otherwise" is very relevant, as we have had
interoperations in which it is necessary to assume a default of
strict=state.

Regards,
Raphael

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Groves [mailto:Christian.Groves <at> nteczone.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 June 2010 2:56 AM
To: Raphael Tryster
Cc: megaco ietf
Subject: Re: [Megaco] Does an event generated by strict=state stop
signals?

Hello Raphael,

I think it is a real event so the behaviour would be to send the notify 
and stop the dial tone. So I think conclusion 2 is the one to take. 
However I think conclusion 3 is also applicable. Megaco v1, v2, or v3 
really is only for the syntax and procedures surrounding that. In the 
case of the Analog Line Supervision Package (al) the package version has

remained at v1 for all Megaco versions. Therefore the inclusion of the 
default should be seen as correcting an omission. So the MG should 
assume strict=exact if strict is not specified (unless provisioned 
otherwise :-) ).

Regards, Christian

On 15/06/2010 5:26 PM, Raphael Tryster wrote:
>
> Megaco stipulates that detection of an event should stop any signal 
> that is playing.  Does an existing hook state, reported immediately 
> with init=true because the MGC requested strict=state, count as an 
> event for the purpose of stopping signals?
>
> If the answer is yes, then we could have the following scenario:
>
> 1. MG sends Notify al/of.
>
> 2. MGC sends Modify, requesting signal cg/dt, and events 
> al/of{strict=state},al/on(strict=state}.
>
> 3. MG immediately sends Notify al/of{init=true}, and stops the dial
tone!
>
> A variation of the above is when the strict parameter is omitted, but 
> the MG decides to assume strict=state because it is working with 
> Megaco version 1 or 2, where no default is specified.
>
> Possible conclusions:
>
> 1. This is not a real event and the signal should not be stopped.
>
> 2. This is a real event and the MGC is stupid to send such a command.
>
> 3. This is a real event, and if strict is not specified, the MG must 
> assume strict=exact.
>
> I await the experts' opinion.
>
> Raphael Tryster
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
>    
Schwarz Albrecht | 17 Jun 2010 14:02
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Re: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

to 1):
- RFC2833 is obsoleted by RFC 4733, ...! 
- just use the SDP elements as defined by the RFCs in the H.248 LD/RD
- it looks fairly strange to use H.248 binary encoding when such
SDP-controlled RTP capabilities are used in the IP domain; do you really
want to translate SDP text encoding at your MGC call control interface
in "SDP binary" format at H.248?

to 2):
- see Draft H.248.77 for H.248-controlled SRTP endpoints
- see 3GPP 23.334 and 29.334 as a first H.248 Profile with SRTP support

> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media 
> endpoint ?(can be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of 

You refer to the IP media-path (RFC 5479) related keying methods for
SRTP.
Any procedures at the H.248 MG "IP media-path" interface are per se out
of scope of H.248.
If ... then subject of an H.248 profile specification.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org 
> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
> Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 10:59
> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can do 
> and what can't.
> 
> I am not able to find any documents related to following 
> topics/questions:
> 
> 1) RFC2833/RFC2198
>   - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the 
> MG? (used payload types, list of supported tones, ...)
>   - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities to 
> the MG termination?
> 
> 2) SRTP/MIKEY
>  - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to 
> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media 
> endpoint ?(can be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of 
> SRTP endpoint)
> 
> BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I 
> understand it well it can not use SDP equivalent properties, 
> is it right?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any hint.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Tomas
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
> 
Kukosa, Tomas | 18 Jun 2010 09:30

Re: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

Hi,

thanky you for your response.

I would like to avoid SDP as it not my favorit protocol.

But I have not find any possibility how to map H.245 TCS to H.248.
Especially receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability and mediaPacketizationCapability.

I.e. my question does not come from SDP but from H.245 area.

Best regards,
  Tomas

-----Original Message-----
From: Schwarz Albrecht [mailto:Albrecht.Schwarz <at> alcatel-lucent.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:02 PM
To: Kukosa, Tomas; megaco <at> ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

to 1):
- RFC2833 is obsoleted by RFC 4733, ...! 
- just use the SDP elements as defined by the RFCs in the H.248 LD/RD
- it looks fairly strange to use H.248 binary encoding when such
SDP-controlled RTP capabilities are used in the IP domain; do you really
want to translate SDP text encoding at your MGC call control interface
in "SDP binary" format at H.248?

to 2):
- see Draft H.248.77 for H.248-controlled SRTP endpoints
- see 3GPP 23.334 and 29.334 as a first H.248 Profile with SRTP support

> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media 
> endpoint ?(can be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of 

You refer to the IP media-path (RFC 5479) related keying methods for
SRTP.
Any procedures at the H.248 MG "IP media-path" interface are per se out
of scope of H.248.
If ... then subject of an H.248 profile specification.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org 
> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
> Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 10:59
> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can do 
> and what can't.
> 
> I am not able to find any documents related to following 
> topics/questions:
> 
> 1) RFC2833/RFC2198
>   - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the 
> MG? (used payload types, list of supported tones, ...)
>   - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities to 
> the MG termination?
> 
> 2) SRTP/MIKEY
>  - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to 
> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media 
> endpoint ?(can be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of 
> SRTP endpoint)
> 
> BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I 
> understand it well it can not use SDP equivalent properties, 
> is it right?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any hint.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Tomas
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
> 
Schwarz Albrecht | 19 Jun 2010 12:11
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H.323/H.245 interworking (H.248.12); RE: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY


Sounds like a topic for H.248.12, if H.245-to-H.248 interworking
aspects, right?
Perhaps you need an extension/upversion of the H.248.12 H245 Package.
Do you terminate H.245 at MG or MGC level?
Did you already consider H.248.12?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org 
> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
> Sent: Freitag, 18. Juni 2010 09:30
> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
> 
> Hi,
> 
> thanky you for your response.
> 
> I would like to avoid SDP as it not my favorit protocol.
> 
> But I have not find any possibility how to map H.245 TCS to H.248.
> Especially receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability and 
> mediaPacketizationCapability.
> 
> I.e. my question does not come from SDP but from H.245 area.
> 
> Best regards,
>   Tomas
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schwarz Albrecht [mailto:Albrecht.Schwarz <at> alcatel-lucent.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: Kukosa, Tomas; megaco <at> ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
> 
> to 1):
> - RFC2833 is obsoleted by RFC 4733, ...! 
> - just use the SDP elements as defined by the RFCs in the H.248 LD/RD
> - it looks fairly strange to use H.248 binary encoding when 
> such SDP-controlled RTP capabilities are used in the IP 
> domain; do you really want to translate SDP text encoding at 
> your MGC call control interface in "SDP binary" format at H.248?
> 
> to 2):
> - see Draft H.248.77 for H.248-controlled SRTP endpoints
> - see 3GPP 23.334 and 29.334 as a first H.248 Profile with 
> SRTP support
> 
> > negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media 
> endpoint ?(can 
> > be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of
> 
> You refer to the IP media-path (RFC 5479) related keying 
> methods for SRTP.
> Any procedures at the H.248 MG "IP media-path" interface are 
> per se out of scope of H.248.
> If ... then subject of an H.248 profile specification.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org
> > [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 10:59
> > To: megaco <at> ietf.org
> > Subject: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can 
> do and what 
> > can't.
> > 
> > I am not able to find any documents related to following
> > topics/questions:
> > 
> > 1) RFC2833/RFC2198
> >   - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the MG? 
> > (used payload types, list of supported tones, ...)
> >   - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities 
> to the MG 
> > termination?
> > 
> > 2) SRTP/MIKEY
> >  - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to negotiate 
> > SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media endpoint ?(can be also 
> > H.248 MG but also any other kind of SRTP endpoint)
> > 
> > BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I 
> understand 
> > it well it can not use SDP equivalent properties, is it right?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any hint.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> >   Tomas
> > _______________________________________________
> > Megaco mailing list
> > Megaco <at> ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
> > 
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
> 
Christian Groves | 21 Jun 2010 05:53

Re: H.323/H.245 interworking (H.248.12); RE: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

Hello Tomas,

There's no description on how to map H.245 TCS to H.248 as I think that 
it is commonly assumed that the MGC will receive the H.245 TCS directly 
or tunnelled through the MG (as provided by by H.248.12). The MGC will 
apply what ever logic is required and then issue the appropriate H.248 
commands. There is not necessary a 1:1 mapping of the information.

For example "receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability" broadly maps into 
H.248 ability to set events to detect tones (e.g. H.248.1  annex E.6) 
and to send signals to initiate tones (e.g. H.248.1 annex E.7). The 
method to indicate these is the same whether text or binary is used. The 
payload type can be specified by H.248.1 annex C.1 "rtppayload".

I do note that there have been a number of additions to H.245 in recent 
years to address additions to SDP. Neither H.248.1 Annex C nor H.248.12 
has been updated specifically for these. So any proposals for 
enhancements are welcome.

Regards, Christian

On 19/06/2010 8:11 PM, Schwarz Albrecht wrote:
>
> Sounds like a topic for H.248.12, if H.245-to-H.248 interworking
> aspects, right?
> Perhaps you need an extension/upversion of the H.248.12 H245 Package.
> Do you terminate H.245 at MG or MGC level?
> Did you already consider H.248.12?
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org
>> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
>> Sent: Freitag, 18. Juni 2010 09:30
>> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanky you for your response.
>>
>> I would like to avoid SDP as it not my favorit protocol.
>>
>> But I have not find any possibility how to map H.245 TCS to H.248.
>> Especially receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability and
>> mediaPacketizationCapability.
>>
>> I.e. my question does not come from SDP but from H.245 area.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Tomas
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Schwarz Albrecht [mailto:Albrecht.Schwarz <at> alcatel-lucent.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:02 PM
>> To: Kukosa, Tomas; megaco <at> ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>
>> to 1):
>> - RFC2833 is obsoleted by RFC 4733, ...!
>> - just use the SDP elements as defined by the RFCs in the H.248 LD/RD
>> - it looks fairly strange to use H.248 binary encoding when
>> such SDP-controlled RTP capabilities are used in the IP
>> domain; do you really want to translate SDP text encoding at
>> your MGC call control interface in "SDP binary" format at H.248?
>>
>> to 2):
>> - see Draft H.248.77 for H.248-controlled SRTP endpoints
>> - see 3GPP 23.334 and 29.334 as a first H.248 Profile with
>> SRTP support
>>
>>      
>>> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media
>>>        
>> endpoint ?(can
>>      
>>> be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of
>>>        
>> You refer to the IP media-path (RFC 5479) related keying
>> methods for SRTP.
>> Any procedures at the H.248 MG "IP media-path" interface are
>> per se out of scope of H.248.
>> If ... then subject of an H.248 profile specification.
>>
>>
>>      
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org
>>> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
>>> Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 10:59
>>> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
>>> Subject: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can
>>>        
>> do and what
>>      
>>> can't.
>>>
>>> I am not able to find any documents related to following
>>> topics/questions:
>>>
>>> 1) RFC2833/RFC2198
>>>    - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the MG?
>>> (used payload types, list of supported tones, ...)
>>>    - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities
>>>        
>> to the MG
>>      
>>> termination?
>>>
>>> 2) SRTP/MIKEY
>>>   - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to negotiate
>>> SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media endpoint ?(can be also
>>> H.248 MG but also any other kind of SRTP endpoint)
>>>
>>> BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I
>>>        
>> understand
>>      
>>> it well it can not use SDP equivalent properties, is it right?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any hint.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>    Tomas
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Megaco mailing list
>>> Megaco <at> ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
>>>
>>>        
>> _______________________________________________
>> Megaco mailing list
>> Megaco <at> ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
>>
>>      
> _______________________________________________
> Megaco mailing list
> Megaco <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/megaco
> .
>
>    
Kukosa, Tomas | 21 Jun 2010 08:15

Re: H.323/H.245 interworking (H.248.12); RE: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

Hello Christian,

thank you very much for all your hints!

I will look at all mentioned documents and chapters.

Best regards,
  Tomas 

-----Original Message-----
From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christian Groves
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 5:53 AM
To: megaco <at> ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.323/H.245 interworking (H.248.12); RE: H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY

Hello Tomas,

There's no description on how to map H.245 TCS to H.248 as I think that 
it is commonly assumed that the MGC will receive the H.245 TCS directly 
or tunnelled through the MG (as provided by by H.248.12). The MGC will 
apply what ever logic is required and then issue the appropriate H.248 
commands. There is not necessary a 1:1 mapping of the information.

For example "receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability" broadly maps into 
H.248 ability to set events to detect tones (e.g. H.248.1  annex E.6) 
and to send signals to initiate tones (e.g. H.248.1 annex E.7). The 
method to indicate these is the same whether text or binary is used. The 
payload type can be specified by H.248.1 annex C.1 "rtppayload".

I do note that there have been a number of additions to H.245 in recent 
years to address additions to SDP. Neither H.248.1 Annex C nor H.248.12 
has been updated specifically for these. So any proposals for 
enhancements are welcome.

Regards, Christian

On 19/06/2010 8:11 PM, Schwarz Albrecht wrote:
>
> Sounds like a topic for H.248.12, if H.245-to-H.248 interworking
> aspects, right?
> Perhaps you need an extension/upversion of the H.248.12 H245 Package.
> Do you terminate H.245 at MG or MGC level?
> Did you already consider H.248.12?
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org
>> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
>> Sent: Freitag, 18. Juni 2010 09:30
>> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanky you for your response.
>>
>> I would like to avoid SDP as it not my favorit protocol.
>>
>> But I have not find any possibility how to map H.245 TCS to H.248.
>> Especially receiveRTPAudioTelephonyEventCapability and
>> mediaPacketizationCapability.
>>
>> I.e. my question does not come from SDP but from H.245 area.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Tomas
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Schwarz Albrecht [mailto:Albrecht.Schwarz <at> alcatel-lucent.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:02 PM
>> To: Kukosa, Tomas; megaco <at> ietf.org
>> Subject: RE: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>
>> to 1):
>> - RFC2833 is obsoleted by RFC 4733, ...!
>> - just use the SDP elements as defined by the RFCs in the H.248 LD/RD
>> - it looks fairly strange to use H.248 binary encoding when
>> such SDP-controlled RTP capabilities are used in the IP
>> domain; do you really want to translate SDP text encoding at
>> your MGC call control interface in "SDP binary" format at H.248?
>>
>> to 2):
>> - see Draft H.248.77 for H.248-controlled SRTP endpoints
>> - see 3GPP 23.334 and 29.334 as a first H.248 Profile with
>> SRTP support
>>
>>      
>>> negotiate SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media
>>>        
>> endpoint ?(can
>>      
>>> be also H.248 MG but also any other kind of
>>>        
>> You refer to the IP media-path (RFC 5479) related keying
>> methods for SRTP.
>> Any procedures at the H.248 MG "IP media-path" interface are
>> per se out of scope of H.248.
>> If ... then subject of an H.248 profile specification.
>>
>>
>>      
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org
>>> [mailto:megaco-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kukosa, Tomas
>>> Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 10:59
>>> To: megaco <at> ietf.org
>>> Subject: [Megaco] H.248 using RFC2833/RFC2198 and SRTP/MIKEY
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I start looking to H.248 protocol and studying what it can
>>>        
>> do and what
>>      
>>> can't.
>>>
>>> I am not able to find any documents related to following
>>> topics/questions:
>>>
>>> 1) RFC2833/RFC2198
>>>    - how the MGC can get RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities from the MG?
>>> (used payload types, list of supported tones, ...)
>>>    - how the MGC can put peer  RFC2833/RFC2198 capabilities
>>>        
>> to the MG
>>      
>>> termination?
>>>
>>> 2) SRTP/MIKEY
>>>   - is there any document how to use MIKEY within H.248 to negotiate
>>> SRTP contexted between the MG and peer media endpoint ?(can be also
>>> H.248 MG but also any other kind of SRTP endpoint)
>>>
>>> BTW I would prefer to use binary encoding of H.248 and if I
>>>        
>> understand
>>      
>>> it well it can not use SDP equivalent properties, is it right?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any hint.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>    Tomas
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