FW: interim meeting on the topic of ipv4-ipv6 co-existence

FYI. Registration is now open, and hotel information is on the wiki:

> An interim meeting will be organized on October 1 - 2 in Montreal,
> Canada to continue discussions about the IPv4 and IPv6 co-existence,
> NAT-PT replacement, and new tunneling or translation solutions to
> address needs in this space. This is a meeting that affects work
> happening in a number of WGs (SOFTWIRE, V6OPS, BEHAVE, INTAREA).
>
> A wiki page containing more information about the meeting has been
> set up at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/int/trac/wiki/v4v6interim
>
> We are currently working to provide hotel recommendations and other
> details.
> _______________________________________________
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> IETF-Announce <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce
>   

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Interim meeting on ipv4-ipv6 co-existence - latest APBP document

The agenda in http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/int/trac/wiki/v4v6interim
has, for the APBP item of the agenda, draft-despres-v6ops-apbp as the
reference document.

In addition, slides 1-11 of the Dublin presentation
www.ietf.org/proceedings/08jul/slides/v6ops-8/v6ops-8, which are more up
to date, are useful.

Slides 12-20 can be ignored.
(The ad hoc protocol, despite its simplicity, is now proposed to be
replaced by an even simpler use of DHCP, the mapping between IPv4
address + port range and IPv6 addresses becoming static).

New material on this is planned to be brought to the meeting.

Note also that APBP (actually its revised version) fits in the "tunnel 
based solutions" item of the agenda.

Regards,

RD

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[Fwd: Nomcom call for candidates]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Nomcom call for candidates
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: NomCom Chair <nomcom-chair <at> ietf.org>
To: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs <at> ietf.org>

The message below was just sent to the IETF-Annoucne list.
However, it order to get to as many people as possible, I am asking WG
chairs a favor.  Please forward the message to your working groups.

Thank you,
Joel M. Halpern

The 2008-9 IETF Nominating Committee needs your help.
We have started getting candidates.
If we are going to do our job in time, we have only 3 more weeks to get
enough candidates to have a reasonable pool for all the jobs.
At the moment, we do not have a reasonable pool for any jobs.

If you are willing to serve, please nominate yourself.
If there is someone you think would do a good job, please nominate them.

The web site at:
     http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/nomcom/08
Has the list of positions we are seeking people for, as well as tools for
providing both nominations and feedback.

Alternatively, you can submit nominations by sending email to me.

Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-baker-behave-ivi-00

FYI:

This is a paper complementary to
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xli-behave-ivi
  "Prefix-specific and Stateless Address Mapping (IVI) for IPv4/IPv6
  Coexistence and Transition", Xing Li, Maoke Chen, Congxiao Bao, Hong  
Zhang,
  Jianping Wu, 5-Jul-08, <draft-xli-behave-ivi-00.txt>

We hope to contribute to the discussion at the interim meeting in  
October.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: IETF I-D Submission Tool <idsubmission <at> ietf.org>
> Date: September 15, 2008 9:32:57 AM PDT
> To: fred <at> cisco.com
> Cc: xing <at> cernet.edu.cn, congxiao <at> cernet.edu.cn
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-baker-behave-ivi-00
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-baker-behave-ivi-00.txt has been  
> successfuly submitted by Fred Baker and posted to the IETF repository.
>
> Filename:	 draft-baker-behave-ivi
> Revision:	 00
> Title:		 IVI Update to SIIT and NAT-PT
> Creation_date:	 2008-09-15
> WG ID:		 Independent Submission
> Number_of_pages: 17

v4v6interim <at> ietf.org Mailing list

We have setup an email list for discussion leading up to the interim 
v4v6 coexistence meeting on October 1-2, 2008 in Montréal, Canada. If 
you are registered to attend the meeting, you should already be on the list.

The list is open, please subscribe and begin using it for all interim 
meeting related discussion (technical as well as 
administrative/logistical). For now, please consider this a short-lived 
list focused on agenda items for discussion at this interim meeting 
alone. We should know better after the meeting how to best divide 
discussion back among the individual WG lists, or whether a long-lived 
list of this nature is warranted.

If you are attending and haven't registered, please do:

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/int/trac/wiki/RegistrationForv4v6interim

Tentative agenda, etc. can be found here:

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/int/trac/wiki/v4v6interim

Thanks,

- Mark, Jari, Dan and Brian

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Re: v4v6interim <at> ietf.org Mailing list

Mark Townsley wrote:
> We have setup an email list for discussion leading up to the interim 
> v4v6 coexistence meeting on October 1-2, 2008 in Montréal, Canada. If 
> you are registered to attend the meeting, you should already be on the list.
> 
> The list is open, please subscribe and begin using it for all interim 
> meeting related discussion (technical as well as 
> administrative/logistical).

For people, like me, who are not going to the meeting, but do want to
follow the discussions and possibly contribute to them, the list, signup
and archives can be found here:

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim

I couldn't find a reference to it from those URL's posted, might be good
to put the ref there too.

Greets,
 Jeroen

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Re: v4v6interim <at> ietf.org Mailing list

Jeroen Massar wrote:
> Mark Townsley wrote:
>   
>> We have setup an email list for discussion leading up to the interim 
>> v4v6 coexistence meeting on October 1-2, 2008 in Montréal, Canada. If 
>> you are registered to attend the meeting, you should already be on the list.
>>
>> The list is open, please subscribe and begin using it for all interim 
>> meeting related discussion (technical as well as 
>> administrative/logistical).
>>     
>
> For people, like me, who are not going to the meeting, but do want to
> follow the discussions and possibly contribute to them, the list, signup
> and archives can be found here:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v4v6interim
>   
Thank you, I intended to include that in the email when drafting it, but 
somehow it got left out. This list is definitely not only for attendees.
> I couldn't find a reference to it from those URL's posted, might be good
> to put the ref there too.
>   
It is on the wiki now, but thank you for posting the direct link.

- Mark
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
>
>   

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

HYUN WOOK CHA <hyunwook.cha <at> samsung.com> writes:

> Hello, Thomas Narten and 6MAN folks.

> I made a presentation for our draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" at
> the 6MAN session in Dublin IETF. This draft aims to clarify the
> handling of the M/O flags of IPv6 RA. Though I got several comments
> during my presentation, I could not figure out what you really
> pointed out. So, I decided to ask you again why you think that the
> issues which the draft addresses are neither clear nor considered as
> worthy to be discussed in the 6MAN wg.

Meta point. This WG has (multiple times) over the last few years had
discussions about what the best semantics for the M&O bits should
be. Despite hundreds of emails, and multiple drafts, there was not
(and still is not) consensus on what the exact semantics should be.

If you look at the history, RFC 2462 had text about the M&O bits. It
basically said that if the M or O bit was set, a client should invoke
DHC. Note: the wording was "should" not "must". When 2462 was reissued
as RFC4862, all the wording about the M&O bits was removed. The change
section says:

   o  Removed the text regarding the M and O flags, considering the
      maturity of implementations and operational experiences.
      ManagedFlag and OtherConfigFlag were removed accordingly.  (Note
      that this change does not mean the use of these flags is
      deprecated.)

This was done because the WG could not agree on alternative wording on

Re: v4v6interim <at> ietf.org Mailing list

Has there been any resolution on how/if it will be possible to attend  
this meeting remotely (conference bridge, web conference, jabber room,  
etc.)?

I will not be able to travel to Montreal, but would like to attend all  
or part of the meeting remotely, if possible.

Thanks,
Margaret

On Sep 15, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Mark Townsley wrote:

>
> We have setup an email list for discussion leading up to the interim
> v4v6 coexistence meeting on October 1-2, 2008 in Montréal, Canada. If
> you are registered to attend the meeting, you should already be on  
> the list.
>
> The list is open, please subscribe and begin using it for all interim
> meeting related discussion (technical as well as
> administrative/logistical). For now, please consider this a short- 
> lived
> list focused on agenda items for discussion at this interim meeting
> alone. We should know better after the meeting how to best divide
> discussion back among the individual WG lists, or whether a long-lived
> list of this nature is warranted.
>
> If you are attending and haven't registered, please do:
>

Re: v4v6interim <at> ietf.org Mailing list

We are discussing the situation with the host, and any volunteers we can 
muster up.

Our goal is to have streaming audio and video for the presentations, 
with the ability to ask questions or make statements to the speaker 
remotely over jabber (via a local moderator, speaking on the remote 
participants behalf). I'm afraid we probably will not have the right 
infrastructure for effective real-time, multipoint, participation among 
remote and local participants.

It looks like there will be a good bit of alpha code running no matter 
what we do, so don't bet that there will be no problems. We'll make the 
experience as good as we can for remote folks based on what we have though.

- Mark

Margaret Wasserman wrote:
>
> Has there been any resolution on how/if it will be possible to attend 
> this meeting remotely (conference bridge, web conference, jabber room, 
> etc.)?
>
> I will not be able to travel to Montreal, but would like to attend all 
> or part of the meeting remotely, if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Margaret
>
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Mark Townsley wrote: