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Harald Alvestrand | 6 Sep 09:13
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IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update has ended

FYI:

The IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update is now over. 
Nothing but minor issues have been raised.

The general concern about a "patch" update vs a whole-document reissuing 
was raised again, but there doesn't seem enough concern on this to 
warrant a respin of the WG's decision to do a "patch this time".

The next step is up to the IESG.

                   Harald
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Internet-Drafts | 7 Sep 00:50
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I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update-03.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Intellectual Property Rights Working Group of the IETF.

	Title		: RFC 3978 Update to recognize the IETF Trust
	Author(s)	: S. Bradner
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update-03.txt
	Pages		: 5
	Date		: 2006-9-6
	
This document updates RFC 3978 "IETF Rights in Contributions" to
   recognize that the IETF Trust is now the proper custodian of all
   IETF-related intellectual property rights.

   This document does not constrain how the IETF Trust exercises those
   rights.

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Lucy E. Lynch | 11 Sep 18:10
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Re: IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update has ended

On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:

> FYI:
>
> The IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update is now over. Nothing 
> but minor issues have been raised.
>
> The general concern about a "patch" update vs a whole-document reissuing 
> was raised again, but there doesn't seem enough concern on this to warrant 
> a respin of the WG's decision to do a "patch this time".
>
> The next step is up to the IESG.

Many thanks to all who worked to make this happen!

- Lucy

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Lucy E. Lynch 				Academic User Services
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todd glassey | 11 Sep 18:19
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Re: IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update has ended

Lucy - is there a business plan for what the trust is supposed to do ? and
if so where is it. Also does the IETF have insurance covering the Trust
Officers?

Todd Glassey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lucy E. Lynch" <llynch <at> darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: "Harald Alvestrand" <harald <at> alvestrand.no>
Cc: <ipr-wg <at> ietf.org>
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> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>
> > FYI:
> >
> > The IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update is now over.
Nothing
> > but minor issues have been raised.
> >
> > The general concern about a "patch" update vs a whole-document reissuing
> > was raised again, but there doesn't seem enough concern on this to
warrant
> > a respin of the WG's decision to do a "patch this time".
> >
> > The next step is up to the IESG.
>
> Many thanks to all who worked to make this happen!
>
> - Lucy
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Lucy E. Lynch | 11 Sep 18:32
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Re: IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update has ended

On Mon, 11 Sep 2006, todd glassey wrote:

> Lucy - is there a business plan for what the trust is supposed to do ? and
> if so where is it. Also does the IETF have insurance covering the Trust
> Officers?

Todd -

The IETF Trust founding documents can be found at trustee.ietf.org
and we are adding additional documentation as items are slowly moved
into the Trust (current working documents include a IETF logo FAQ,
a documents retention policy, and an FAQ for reproduction of RFCs).
These will be published to the website as the final drafts are 
approved.

Our insurance coverage is provided via ISOC as the IETF does not have
standing as a non-profit.

- lel

> Todd Glassey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucy E. Lynch" <llynch <at> darkwing.uoregon.edu>
> To: "Harald Alvestrand" <harald <at> alvestrand.no>
> Cc: <ipr-wg <at> ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: IETF Last Call on draft-ietf-ipr-ietf-trust-update has ended
>
>
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
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todd glassey | 26 Sep 18:39
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Problem with the BCP 78 Rights assignment.

By the way - if you sit down and read BCP78 you might notice it doesn't
answer many of the questions it is designed to answer for some reason.

As to the mechanical rights necessary to implement the proof-of-concepts
necessary to qualify as a standard...  the BCP78 Rights assignment lists the
necessary rights for the IETF to create a standard and there is nothing in
it about the rights required to implement the protocol in the instances of
the two required implementation stack. So BCP78 deals with publishing
documents and the use of the technology from them intact.

The problem is that the IETF's Process requires two separate instances of
the proposed technology for interoperability testing.

As to BCP78 itself, what there is, is commentary about MIB like
technologies which can be used by third parties. The question is
what about the actual technological underpinnings.  I.e.  who is to own
those and does the IETF itself own them or does it just get free use of
them to have its interoperability testing performed on them?

Todd Glassey
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