Ira McDonald | 2 Jan 02:29 2012
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Reminder - IPP WG - Monday 9 January 2012

Hi,

Happy New Year everyone.

Reminder that our next IPP WG telecon will be:

Monday 9 January 2012 1-3pm US EST

Agenda TBD
- review PWG Raster
- review IPPS URI Scheme

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
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Ira McDonald | 4 Jan 19:47 2012
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IPP Agenda - 1-3pm EST Monday 9 January 2012

Hi,

Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS!

  Monday 9 January 10am-12pm US PST / 1-3pm US EST

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

  Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PwgSemanticModel&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn
  URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
  Meeting ID: PwgSemanticModel
  Entry Code: LetMeIn


*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster & IPPS URI ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20111206.pdf

(3) Status of IANA IPP Registry corrections
     - http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipp-registrations
     - Amanda Baber (IANA) completed these on 20 December 2011

(4) Status of other IPP Everywhere specs
     - if available

(5) Review of PWG Raster
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20111202-rev.pdf
  
(6) Review of IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-04-20111122.pdf     

(7) Next Steps
     - IPP WG on Monday 23 January - prepare for February PWG F2F at Canon
     - IPP WG on Tuesday 7 February 1-5pm US PST - at Canon in Irvine, CA
     - IPP WG on Wednesday 8 February 1-5pm US PST - at Canon in Irvine, CA

Cheers,
- Ira


Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
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Michael Sweet | 4 Jan 20:56 2012
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Fwd: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2911 (3072)

FWIW, filed this errata based on the consensus that multiple-document-handling is the attribute to use for collated copies, so 2911 needs a minor correction...


Begin forwarded message:

From: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor <at> rfc-editor.org>
Subject: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC2911 (3072)
Date: January 4, 2012 9:57:41 AM PST


The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2911,
"Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=2911&eid=3072

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Michael Sweet <msweet <at> apple.com>

Section: 4.2.4

Original Text
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This attribute is relevant only if a job consists of two or more
documents. This attribute MUST be supported with at least one value


Corrected Text
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This attribute is relevant to jobs consisting of one or more
documents. This attribute MUST be supported with at least one value


Notes
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Per consensus of the IPP working group in the Printer Working Group, the "multiple-document-handling" attribute *is* applicable to single-document jobs since it is the only common attribute that can be used to request copy collation.

The other collation attribute ("sheet-collate" from RFC3381])interacts with "multiple-document-handling" in some non-obvious ways and requires clients and printers to support two different attributes for simple collation. The "sheet-collate" attribute also does not address how finishing options are applied to copies while "multiple-document-handling" does.

Instructions:
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use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

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RFC2911 (draft-ietf-ipp-model-v11-07)
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Title               : Internet Printing Protocol/1.1: Model and Semantics
Publication Date    : September 2000
Author(s)           : T. Hastings, Ed., R. Herriot, R. deBry, S. Isaacson, P. Powell
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Internet Printing Protocol
Area                : Applications
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Zehler, Peter | 5 Jan 15:16 2012
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[Pwg-Announce] System Object and System Control Service Semantics specification Formal Vote (5 Jan to 10 Feb 2012)

Greetings:

VOTES ARE CONFIDENTIAL!  See voting instructions below.

This email initiates the Formal Approval vote by the PWG membership on the System Object and System Control Service Semantics specification, which is located at:

  ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-mfdsystemcontrolservicemodel10-20111215.pdf

The complete list of PWG Last Call issues and resolutions is located at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/SystemServiceLastCallComment-resolution-20111215.pdf

 

 

VOTING PERIOD:  This Formal Vote will start today on Thursday January 5, 2012 and will end at 10pm (US Pacific Time) on Friday February 10, 2012.

Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with Strong Objection), Abstain.

 

PWG Privacy Policy:  Your vote is confidential and will not be disclosed by PWG officers or document editors.

 

HOW TO VOTE:

Send an email with *exactly* the following subject line format:

System Formal Vote-<company name>-<voter's last name>-<Yes/No/Abstain>

Example:

  System Formal Vote -Acme-McGee-Yes

 

Rules:

(1) Any "No" vote MUST state the reason for the "No" vote and MUST contain a description of the *technical* changes required to turn the "No" vote into a "Yes" vote - otherwise the "No" vote will NOT be counted, per PWG Process/3.0.

(2) Any "No" vote MUST NOT contain *editorial* comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(3) Any "Yes" vote MAY contain "editorial" comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(4) Any "Yes" vote MUST NOT contain any  *technical* comments, per PWG Process/3.0.

(5) Any "Abstain" vote counts toward quorum, but not approval.

 

WHERE TO SEND YOUR VOTE:

Please send your vote to *all* of the following email addresses (replacing "dot" with '.' and "at" with ' <at> '):

msweet"at"apple"dot"com (Mike Sweet, PWG Chair)

blueroofmusic"at"gmail"dot"com (Ira McDonald, PWG Secretary)

Peter"dot"Zehler"at"Xerox"dot"com (Peter Zehler, MFD WG -Chair)

 

Please do NOT simply reply to this note on PWG-Announce or the MFD WG list (to preserve the confidentiality of your vote).

 

Notes:

(1) This Formal Vote is being conducted under the rules of the PWG Process/3.0 and the current PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality agreement.  The 2011 PWG Membership Agreement calls out both  of these documents and the links are provided below.

(2) To be eligible to vote the member MUST have submitted a signed copy of the 2011 PWG Membership Agreement and paid their dues.

The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 3.0 is located at:

  http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-process30.pdf

The PWG Policy on Intellectual Property and Confidentiality is located at:

  http://www.pwg.org/chair/membership_docs/pwg-ip-policy.pdf

Cheers,

- Pete (Chair Semantic Model WG)

 

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler <at> Xerox.com

Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
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Michael Sweet | 6 Jan 06:32 2012
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[Pwg-Announce] REMINDER: PWG February 2012 Face-to-Face meeting in Irvine, CA

[This is just a reminder - if you haven't already filled out the survey, please do so now...]

All,

The February 2012 PWG face-to-face meeting page is now available. The agenda and venue information can be found at:


This page will be updated with document links as the material becomes available.

Please visit the February 2012 survey page PRIOR TO FEBRUARY 4, 2012 and indicate whether you plan to participate in person or call in:


For those not able to attend in person, the usual telephone bridge number will be provided. The details of the conference call are:

Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): +1 866 469-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 650 429-3300
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): +1 408 856-9570

Attendee access code: Please request from the PWG Chair (msweet <at> apple.com) if you need it.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair


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Zehler, Peter | 6 Jan 12:28 2012
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Reminder: Working Group Last Call for PWG Print Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities specification ends January 8 2012

All,

I’ve received a few comments.  I plan on starting the PWG wide Last Call on Monday unless there is an objection.

Pete

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler <at> Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
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Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

From: Zehler, Peter
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:06 AM
To: cloud <at> pwg.org; IPP <at> pwg.org; mfd <at> pwg.org
Subject: Working Group Last Call for PWG Print Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities specification ends January 8 2012

 

All,

The updated PWG Print Job Ticket and Associated Capabilities specification is available at

<ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/wd-sm20-printjobticket10-20111220.pdf>.

The Working Group Last call will complete the second week of January.  The PWG wide Last Call will begin shortly after any Working Group comments are integrated.

 

Please send any comments you have to mailto:mfd <at> pwg.com

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler <at> Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
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Zehler, Peter | 8 Jan 13:18 2012
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RE: [MFD] A couple of question on Job Ticket 2.0 (+ Issue for JPS3)

Media is defined in RFC2911 §4.2.11 and MediaSizeName is defined in PWG5108.02 §8.1.3.1.15.3.  The semantic difference is that Media is a named medium upon which the impressions will be printed and MediaSizeName is a named size of the canvas for an image.  For both elements PWG5101.1 §5 is the reference for the standard values.

 

The issue for JPS3, and PJT, is associated with the MediaCol.  The MediaCol has an explicit size for the media (i.e., MediaSize) and a named location to obtain the media (i.e., MediaSource).  Is there a named media size in MediaCol?  If there is, will it be Media or MediaSizeName? 

 

I have removed MediaSizeName from MediaCol and the PJT specification for now.

 

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research Center Webster
Email: Peter.Zehler <at> Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

From: Petrie, Glen [mailto:glen.petrie <at> eitc.epson.com]
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:48 PM
To: Zehler, Peter; mfd <at> pwg.org
Subject: RE: [MFD] A couple of question on Job Ticket 2.0

 

So is “Media” (from page 50 of pwg:pjt) the same as “MediaSizeName” (from page 51 of pwg:pjt)?

 

Actually, the reference for MediaSizeName (pwg 5100.5 $8.1) appears to be wrong.  MediaSizeName is also defined in the 5105.1 /pg 35 and has the same references pwg 5100.5 $8.1.   Maybe MediaSizeName is defined somewhere else.

 

Glen

 

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Ira McDonald | 9 Jan 18:13 2012
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REVISED - IPP Agenda - 1-3pm EST Monday 9 January 2012

Hi,

[New topic from Pete Zehler for PWG Print Job Ticket]


Our next IPP WG call will be next Monday for TWO HOURS!

  Monday 9 January 10am-12pm US PST / 1-3pm US EST

  Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-469-3239
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 (Primary)
  Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-856-9570 (Backup)

  Attendee Access Code: *******#
  Attendee ID Code: # (empty)

If you need the Attendee Access code, please email me a request.

Live Meeting Info (courtesy of Pete Zehler):

  Link: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join?id=PwgSemanticModel&role=attend&pw=LetMeIn
  URL: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/xerox/join
  Meeting ID: PwgSemanticModel
  Entry Code: LetMeIn


*** Main Objective - Review PWG Raster & IPPS URI ***

Agenda:

(1) PWG IP Policy and Minute Taker
     - Mike?

(2) Approve IPP minutes from previous meeting
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20111206.pdf

(3) Status of IANA IPP Registry corrections
     - http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipp-registrations
     - Amanda Baber (IANA) completed these on 20 December 2011

(4) Status of other IPP Everywhere specs
     - if available

(5a) PWG Print Job Ticket - conditional PWG Raster requirements
     - should these be in PJT at all?  or just in PWG Raster?
     - Pete Zehler needs closure to move PJT into PWG Last Call

(5b) Review of PWG Raster
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippraster10-20111202-rev.pdf
  
(6) Review of IPP over HTTPS Transport Binding and 'ipps' URI Scheme
     - ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/draft-mcdonald-ipps-uri-scheme-04-20111122.pdf     

(7) Next Steps
     - IPP WG on Monday 23 January - prepare for February PWG F2F at Canon
     - IPP WG on Tuesday 7 February 1-5pm US PST - at Canon in Irvine, CA
     - IPP WG on Wednesday 8 February 1-5pm US PST - at Canon in Irvine, CA

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
mailto:blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
Winter  579 Park Place  Saline, MI  48176  734-944-0094
Summer  PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434




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Michael Sweet | 10 Jan 01:32 2012
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Minutes posted from today's conference call

All,

I have posted the minutes from today's conference call to:

	ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-concall-minutes-20120109.pdf

We plan to continue reviewing the current PWG Raster draft during the second hour of next week's Cloud
Imaging conference call, approximately 2pm Eastern Time.

New action items:

	- Mike to add "media-size-name" member attribute to "media-col" in JPS3
	- Pete to add "MediaSizeName" to MediaCol in PJT, move MediaSource out of the MediaSize/SizeName/Source
choice since source is often used in conjunction with size on non-production printers (i.e. print
envelopes from bypass tray)
	- Pete to generate XML spy picture for Figure 4 PwgRasterDocument elements

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer, PWG Chair

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Zehler, Peter | 11 Jan 13:37 2012
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JPS3 comment on job-uuid

For section 5.3.1

Can you add the clarification  “The Printer, on receipt of a new job, generates the globally-unique identifier”?

 

 

Peter Zehler

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