IPP> Teleconference call minutes

All:

The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at:
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200805
01.pdf 

The next teleconference is scheduled two weeks from today (same time).

Best regards,

**CW

Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes

Whittle, Craig wrote:
> All:
> 
> The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at:
> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200805
> 01.pdf 
> 
> The next teleconference is scheduled two weeks from today (same time).

My apologies for not calling in - I had a minor emergency at home and
had to babysit the repairman...

In response to the meeting minutes:

* Why would CUPS make all IPP optional operations in v2.0 “C or ‘not
   necessary’”? Could this be because they are “not necessary” for an
   IPPv1.1 compliant implementation.

If we go with my proposal of the v2.0 being a simple workgroup
printer, the optional operations are not necessary, and if you look
at the mailing list archive much of the feedback from the participants
at that time was to make these operations optional *because* they
were not feasible to implement in a workgroup printer with limited
memory and CPU, and generally no disk space.

My proposal from Februrary has v2.0 including/supporting RFC 2910 and
2911 and PWG 5100.1, 5100.2, and 5101.1.  The only addition I might
make to that list would be RFC 3382 (collection attributes) so that
printers accept/understand collection attributes, even if they are
ignored - right now many IPP/1.0 and IPP/1.1 printers will reject

IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Hi,

Ted Tronson (Novell) has just asked if we could change the
time and/or date of the IPP WG meetings, so that he can
attend.

It's particularly important that we pick a time that works well
both for Ted Tronson (Novell iPrint) and Mike Sweet (Apple
CUPS).

All - Please send your thoughts to this mailing list.

Ted and Mike - could you suggest any alternative times/days?

Cheers,
- Ira (co-editor IPPv2)

--

-- 
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
winter:
 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
 734-944-0094
summer:
 PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
 906-494-2434

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Ira McDonald wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ted Tronson (Novell) has just asked if we could change the
> time and/or date of the IPP WG meetings, so that he can
> attend.
> 
> It's particularly important that we pick a time that works well
> both for Ted Tronson (Novell iPrint) and Mike Sweet (Apple
> CUPS).
> 
> All - Please send your thoughts to this mailing list.
> 
> Ted and Mike - could you suggest any alternative times/days?

The best times for me are between 10am and 2pm PST (1-5pm EST) on
Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, and 10:30am to noon on
Wednesdays...

--

-- 
______________________________________________________________________
Michael R Sweet                        Senior Printing System Engineer

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Hi,

WIMS has moved semi-permanently off the crowded PWG Thursday
schedule, but that time (Noon Eastern Thursday) doesn't work for
Mike Sweet anyway.

I suggest we move IPP WG to a different DAY (e.g., Monday or Tuesday)
and a time that works for both Mike and Ted.

Cheers,
- Ira

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl <at> us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> 2 or 3PM Eastern works better for me than 11AM. Thursday works best.
> Noon Eastern works for me but I think that is still the WIMS slot, right?
>
> Regards,
> Harry
>
>  Harry Lewis
>  Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
>  Phone: 303-924-5337
>  e-mail: harryl <at> us.ibm.com
>  infoprint.com
>
>
>  P Think before you print
>
>
>
>  "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
> Sent by: owner-ipp <at> pwg.org
>
> 05/02/2008 10:59 AM
>
> To ipp <at> pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
>
> cc
>
> Subject IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  Ted Tronson (Novell) has just asked if we could change the
>  time and/or date of the IPP WG meetings, so that he can
>  attend.
>
>  It's particularly important that we pick a time that works well
>  both for Ted Tronson (Novell iPrint) and Mike Sweet (Apple
>  CUPS).
>
>  All - Please send your thoughts to this mailing list.
>
>  Ted and Mike - could you suggest any alternative times/days?
>
>  Cheers,
>  - Ira (co-editor IPPv2)
>
>  --
>  Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>  Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>  Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>  email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
>  winter:
>  579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>  734-944-0094
>  summer:
>  PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>  906-494-2434
>
>

--

-- 
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
winter:
 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
 734-944-0094
summer:
 PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
 906-494-2434

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

To All IPPv2 participants,

I suggest we change to 1:00 or 2:00 PM EDT (10:00 or 11:00AM PDT) on
Mondays or Tuesdays.
Please reply as to which will and which will not work for you.

Thanks,
Ron

                                                                           
             "Ira McDonald"                                                
             <blueroofmusic <at> gm                                             
             ail.com>                                                   To 
             Sent by:                  "Harry Lewis" <harryl <at> us.ibm.com>,  
             owner-ipp <at> pwg.org         "Ira McDonald"                      
                                       <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>           
                                                                        cc 
             05/02/2008 10:53          ipp <at> pwg.org                         
             AM                                                    Subject 
                                       Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG  
                                       meetings                            

Hi,

WIMS has moved semi-permanently off the crowded PWG Thursday
schedule, but that time (Noon Eastern Thursday) doesn't work for
Mike Sweet anyway.

I suggest we move IPP WG to a different DAY (e.g., Monday or Tuesday)
and a time that works for both Mike and Ted.

Cheers,
- Ira

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl <at> us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> 2 or 3PM Eastern works better for me than 11AM. Thursday works best.
> Noon Eastern works for me but I think that is still the WIMS slot, right?
>
> Regards,
> Harry
>
>  Harry Lewis
>  Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
>  Phone: 303-924-5337
>  e-mail: harryl <at> us.ibm.com
>  infoprint.com
>
>
>  P Think before you print
>
>
>
>  "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
> Sent by: owner-ipp <at> pwg.org
>
> 05/02/2008 10:59 AM
>
> To ipp <at> pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
>
> cc
>
> Subject IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  Ted Tronson (Novell) has just asked if we could change the
>  time and/or date of the IPP WG meetings, so that he can
>  attend.
>
>  It's particularly important that we pick a time that works well
>  both for Ted Tronson (Novell iPrint) and Mike Sweet (Apple
>  CUPS).
>
>  All - Please send your thoughts to this mailing list.
>
>  Ted and Mike - could you suggest any alternative times/days?
>
>  Cheers,
>  - Ira (co-editor IPPv2)
>
>  --
>  Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>  Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>  Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>  email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
>  winter:
>  579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>  734-944-0094
>  summer:
>  PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>  906-494-2434
>
>

--
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
winter:
 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
 734-944-0094
summer:
 PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
 906-494-2434

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Hi,

Mondays are better for me, but Tuesday would be OK.

Either 1pm EDT (10am PDT) or 2pm EDT (11am PDT) are fine.

WIMS-CIM has been meeting at 11am EDT (8am PDT) on Monday
for several months - even if we run over, that still works with the
proposed new IPP WG times.

Cheers,
- Ira

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:10 PM,  <Ron.Bergman <at> ricoh-usa.com> wrote:
> To All IPPv2 participants,
>
>  I suggest we change to 1:00 or 2:00 PM EDT (10:00 or 11:00AM PDT) on
>  Mondays or Tuesdays.
>  Please reply as to which will and which will not work for you.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Ron
>
>
>
>
>              "Ira McDonald"
>              <blueroofmusic <at> gm
>              ail.com>                                                   To
>              Sent by:                  "Harry Lewis" <harryl <at> us.ibm.com>,
>              owner-ipp <at> pwg.org         "Ira McDonald"
>                                        <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
>                                                                         cc
>              05/02/2008 10:53          ipp <at> pwg.org
>              AM                                                    Subject
>                                        Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG
>
>
>                                        meetings
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Hi,
>
>  WIMS has moved semi-permanently off the crowded PWG Thursday
>  schedule, but that time (Noon Eastern Thursday) doesn't work for
>  Mike Sweet anyway.
>
>  I suggest we move IPP WG to a different DAY (e.g., Monday or Tuesday)
>  and a time that works for both Mike and Ted.
>
>  Cheers,
>  - Ira
>
>  On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Harry Lewis <harryl <at> us.ibm.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > 2 or 3PM Eastern works better for me than 11AM. Thursday works best.
>  > Noon Eastern works for me but I think that is still the WIMS slot, right?
>  >
>  > Regards,
>  > Harry
>  >
>  >  Harry Lewis
>  >  Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
>  >  Phone: 303-924-5337
>  >  e-mail: harryl <at> us.ibm.com
>  >  infoprint.com
>  >
>  >
>  >  P Think before you print
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
>  > Sent by: owner-ipp <at> pwg.org
>  >
>  > 05/02/2008 10:59 AM
>  >
>  > To ipp <at> pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com>
>  >
>  > cc
>  >
>  > Subject IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  >  Ted Tronson (Novell) has just asked if we could change the
>  >  time and/or date of the IPP WG meetings, so that he can
>  >  attend.
>  >
>  >  It's particularly important that we pick a time that works well
>  >  both for Ted Tronson (Novell iPrint) and Mike Sweet (Apple
>  >  CUPS).
>  >
>  >  All - Please send your thoughts to this mailing list.
>  >
>  >  Ted and Mike - could you suggest any alternative times/days?
>  >
>  >  Cheers,
>  >  - Ira (co-editor IPPv2)
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>  >  Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>  >  Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>  >  email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
>  >  winter:
>  >  579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>  >  734-944-0094
>  >  summer:
>  >  PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>  >  906-494-2434
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>  --
>  Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
>  Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
>  Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
>  email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
>  winter:
>   579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
>   734-944-0094
>  summer:
>   PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
>   906-494-2434
>
>
>
>
>

--

-- 
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
email: blueroofmusic <at> gmail.com
winter:
 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
 734-944-0094
summer:
 PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
 906-494-2434

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings

Re: IPP> Change time/day of IPP WG meetings