sah | 2 Apr 05:52 2004
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Subject: IPP> Hi! :-)

I don't bite, weah!

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Scott Hollenbeck | 7 Apr 13:09 2004
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IPP> draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

The subject document has been sitting in the "IESG Evaluation :: Revised ID
Needed" state for 18 months.  What do you all wish to do with this document?
Here's the IESG comment that needs to be addressed:

"The Security Considerations section should be more explicit 
about the security required for administrative operations. The fact 
that these operations may need to be protected, even in an 
environment where printing related operations may not be."

There are also some minor changes that will need to be made due to changes
in the way the IETF does Internet-Drafts, such as splitting the references
into normative and informative subsections.

I want to help move this document along, but I need one of the authors or
someone else in the WG to stop up to the final editing task.  Who is willing
to do that?

-Scott-
Apps AD

Harry Lewis | 7 Apr 19:50 2004
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PWG-ANNOUNCE> Tentative Vancouver agenda


Following discussion with the steering committee, here is the tentative agenda for Vancouver (May 24-27)

Monday - WBMM
Tuesday - Plenary (morning - with time for PSI Last Call review); PWG process last call review including Semantic Model process and aux documents such as file naming (afternoon)
Wednesday - Semantic Model Extensions (morning); Standard Imaging Systems Events (afternoon)
Thursday - Consumer (8:30-11:30); Transform Services Interface Introduction (12:30 - 3pm)
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Harry Lewis
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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Harry Lewis | 8 Apr 02:57 2004
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IPP> Re: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03


Hi Scott. Thanks for your note and interest in progressing the IPP-OPs draft. Our main problem is fairly evident. Economics being what they are, we have run aground in terms of finding editor cycles. I'm beating the bushes and evaluating my own bandwidth.  

I agree that it is essential to discuss security requirements for admin ops. There must be other projects, drafts etc who have encountered similar requirements. It might help (speed things up) if you could point me to a reference which you feel would align with our admin security requirements in terms of scope and approach.
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Harry Lewis
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Scott Hollenbeck" <sah <at> 428cobrajet.net>

04/07/2004 05:09 AM

To
<carl <at> manros.com>
cc
Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <hastings <at> cp10.es.xerox.com>, Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <ipp <at> pwg.org>
Subject
draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03





The subject document has been sitting in the "IESG Evaluation :: Revised ID
Needed" state for 18 months.  What do you all wish to do with this document?
Here's the IESG comment that needs to be addressed:

"The Security Considerations section should be more explicit
about the security required for administrative operations. The fact
that these operations may need to be protected, even in an
environment where printing related operations may not be."

There are also some minor changes that will need to be made due to changes
in the way the IETF does Internet-Drafts, such as splitting the references
into normative and informative subsections.

I want to help move this document along, but I need one of the authors or
someone else in the WG to stop up to the final editing task.  Who is willing
to do that?

-Scott-
Apps AD


Scott Hollenbeck | 8 Apr 03:20 2004
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IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

Harry,

> I agree that it is essential to discuss security requirements 
> for admin ops. There must be other projects, drafts etc who 
> have encountered similar requirements. It might help (speed 
> things up) if you could point me to a reference which you 
> feel would align with our admin security requirements in 
> terms of scope and approach.

I'll try.  I'll see if I can find something by searching the RFC editor's
archives and maybe get some help from a security guy who knows something
about applications.

-Scott-


Harry Lewis | 8 Apr 06:11 2004
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IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03


Appreciate it. Don't mean to trigger an avalanche. I figure your eyes are exposed to more drafts addressing like requirements than mine. If my assumption is incorrect, disregard my request.
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Harry Lewis
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Scott Hollenbeck" <sah <at> 428cobrajet.net>

04/07/2004 07:20 PM

To
Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS
cc
<carl <at> manros.com>, Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <hastings <at> cp10.es.xerox.com>, <ipp <at> pwg.org>
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RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03





Harry,

> I agree that it is essential to discuss security requirements
> for admin ops. There must be other projects, drafts etc who
> have encountered similar requirements. It might help (speed
> things up) if you could point me to a reference which you
> feel would align with our admin security requirements in
> terms of scope and approach.

I'll try.  I'll see if I can find something by searching the RFC editor's
archives and maybe get some help from a security guy who knows something
about applications.

-Scott-


Scott Hollenbeck | 9 Apr 16:35 2004
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IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

All:

I've been in touch with the Security Area Directors, Russ Housley and Steve
Bellovin.  Russ has identified and asked someone to help craft an
appropriate Security Considerations section.  I just need to know who his
point of contact should be.

Bob Herriot has volunteered to finish the writing in a private reply to me.
Harry Lewis has also replied to the WG mailing list.  Which of you would be
the appropriate editor at this point?

-Scott-


Harry Lewis | 9 Apr 17:11 2004
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IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03


I've been in touch with Bob and, actually, he has volunteered to edit the notifications spec. I will be editor for the admin operations spec. We are hoping the security considerations will be similar.
----------------------------------------------
Harry Lewis
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Scott Hollenbeck" <sah <at> 428cobrajet.net>

04/09/2004 08:35 AM

To
Harry Lewis/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <mike <at> easysw.com>, <bob <at> herriot.com>
cc
<carl <at> manros.com>, Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <hastings <at> cp10.es.xerox.com>, <ipp <at> pwg.org>
Subject
RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03





All:

I've been in touch with the Security Area Directors, Russ Housley and Steve
Bellovin.  Russ has identified and asked someone to help craft an
appropriate Security Considerations section.  I just need to know who his
point of contact should be.

Bob Herriot has volunteered to finish the writing in a private reply to me.
Harry Lewis has also replied to the WG mailing list.  Which of you would be
the appropriate editor at this point?

-Scott-


McDonald, Ira | 10 Apr 21:59 2004

RE: IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

Hi folks,

Note that Tom Hastings did a first cut at fixing the IPP Admin
security considerations back in October 2003 (not posted as an I-D).
Available in the IPP archive on the PWG FTP server at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/ipp-ops-set2-04-031001-rev.pdf

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_OPS/ipp-ops-set2-04-031001-rev.doc

I had minor review comments at the time (I'll dig them up).

Cheers,
- Ira (contributing editor to IPP Admin operations)

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI  49839
phone: +1-906-494-2434
email: imcdonald <at> sharplabs.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl <at> us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 11:11 AM
To: Scott Hollenbeck
Cc: bob <at> herriot.com; carl <at> manros.com; 'Carl Kugler';
hastings <at> cp10.es.xerox.com; ipp <at> pwg.org; mike <at> easysw.com
Subject: IPP> RE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

I've been in touch with Bob and, actually, he has volunteered to edit the
notifications spec. I will be editor for the admin operations spec. We are
hoping the security considerations will be similar. 
---------------------------------------------- 
Harry Lewis 
Chairman - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
http://www.pwg.org
IBM Printing Systems 
http://www.ibm.com/printers
303-924-5337
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"Scott Hollenbeck" <sah <at> 428cobrajet.net> 
04/09/2004 08:35 AM ToHarry Lewis/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS, <mike <at> easysw.com>,
<bob <at> herriot.com> 
cc<carl <at> manros.com>, Carl Kugler/Boulder/IBM <at> IBMUS,
<hastings <at> cp10.es.xerox.com>, <ipp <at> pwg.org> 
SubjectRE: draft-ietf-ipp-ops-set2-03

All:

I've been in touch with the Security Area Directors, Russ Housley and Steve
Bellovin.  Russ has identified and asked someone to help craft an
appropriate Security Considerations section.  I just need to know who his
point of contact should be.

Bob Herriot has volunteered to finish the writing in a private reply to me.
Harry Lewis has also replied to the WG mailing list.  Which of you would be
the appropriate editor at this point?

-Scott-

Nagasaka Fumio | 16 Apr 02:50 2004
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PWG-ANNOUNCE> Consumer Print BOF on 23rd.


This mail shall be the first announce for "Consumer Printing BOF" at the PWG meeting in Washington D.C.
Please find an attached PDF file. The file is a draft charter proposal which will be discussed
at the meeting on Friday 23rd. I am assuming the first face to face meeting is a place
to have a brain storming including whether or not the Consumer BOF would be worth while to start.

Fumio Nagasaka IJP Design Dept.
Imaging & Information Products Operations Div.
SEIKO EPSON CorporationEPSON
tel 81-263-5603 / Fax 81-263-5613

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