Farrell, Lee | 2 Dec 2002 19:06
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RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July conflict with IETF

Given the two choices, I would strongly prefer the week of June 16.  [However, I'm not sure I understand why June 23 wasn't offered as well.  That would be my personal preference.]  Otherwise, I would opt for July 21.
 
Historically, the PWG has avoided conflict with both the W3C Advisory Council and the IETF Plenary meetings -- even though only a few PWG individuals attend both.  I see no reason why we should change that policy now.  Because these events only happen 2 and 3 times per year, respectively, it is especially onerous to have to miss one because of a conflict.
 
Further, although it is not yet clear what role the IETF will take in the area of XML Configuration, the possible PWG activity of Device Management might need to pay close attention to the progress of this effort.  Scheduling the PWG meetings on the same week would not help.
 
Cheers,
 
lee

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Lee Farrell
Canon Development Americas
110 Innovation Drive
Irvine, CA  92612
(949) 856-7163 - voice
(949) 856-7510 - fax
lee.farrell <at> cda.canon.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Lewis [mailto:harryl <at> us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:14 PM
To: pwg-announce <at> pwg.org
Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July conflict with IETF


It has been pointed out that our July 2003 meeting date (14-18) is the same week as the IETF meeting in Vienna.

I would like to gauge the severity of this conflict to PWG members and preferences should a our schedule need to be modified. If you have an opinion please indicate

1. Prefer to keep current PWG July 14 -18 meeting date
2. Prefer to move PWG meeting to week of June 16
3. Prefer to move PWG meeting to week of July 21

I do not feel any other dates are viable due to the proximity of USA Independence Day and the common practice of extending this holiday with vacation.

No response will be considered a "don't care" NOT a "leave as is".

Please respond by Thursday Dec 12.

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Harry Lewis
IBM Printing Systems
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RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July conflict with IETF

I'll go along with Don's choices.
Alan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: don <at> lexmark.com [mailto:don <at> lexmark.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 5:54 AM
> To: Harry Lewis
> Cc: pwg-announce <at> pwg.org
> Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> July conflict with IETF
> 
> 
> 
> My choices, in order of preference:
> 
> July 21
> Leave as is (July 14)
> June 16
> 
> **********************************************
>  Don Wright                 don <at> lexmark.com
> 
>  Member, IEEE SA Standards Board
>          PatCom Chair, SCC Liaison
>  Member, IEEE-ISTO Board of Directors
>  f.wright <at> ieee.org / f.wright <at> computer.org
> 
>  Director, Alliances & Standards
>  Lexmark International
>  740 New Circle Rd
>  Lexington, Ky 40550
>  859-825-4808 (phone) 603-963-8352 (fax)
> **********************************************
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Harry Lewis" <harryl <at> us.ibm.com> <at> pwg.org on 11/25/2002 11:14:01 PM
> 
> Sent by:    owner-pwg-announce <at> pwg.org
> 
> 
> To:    pwg-announce <at> pwg.org
> cc:
> Subject:    PWG-ANNOUNCE> July conflict with IETF
> 
> 
> It has been pointed out that our July 2003 meeting date (14-18) is the
> same week as the IETF meeting in Vienna.
> 
> I would like to gauge the severity of this conflict to PWG members and
> preferences should a our schedule need to be modified. If you have an
> opinion please indicate
> 
> 1. Prefer to keep current PWG July 14 -18 meeting date
> 2. Prefer to move PWG meeting to week of June 16
> 3. Prefer to move PWG meeting to week of July 21
> 
> I do not feel any other dates are viable due to the proximity of USA
> Independence Day and the common practice of extending this 
> holiday with
> vacation.
> 
> No response will be considered a "don't care" NOT a "leave as is".
> 
> Please respond by Thursday Dec 12.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> Harry Lewis
> IBM Printing Systems
> ----------------------------------------------
> (See attached file: C.htm)
> 
> 
> 

Zehler, Peter | 2 Dec 2002 20:47
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IPP> Color and Imaging attributes discussion

All,

Anyone interested in the color and imaging attributes extension to IPP
should join the PWG Semantic Model workgroup. (See "http://www.pwg.org/sm/")
The discussion on this subject will be held on the Semantic Model mailing
list.  The color and imaging attributes extension to IPP will be discussed
in this week's teleconference.  Please join us if you have an interest in
this area.

This Thursday at 1pm EDT is the Semantic Model teleconference. The
teleconference is one hour long.  It will be run using both phone and Webex.
Anyone that does not yet have Webex installed should do that before
Thursday.  Information for the phone and Webex are included below.

The agenda for the Semantic Model teleconference is

1) Status on Semantic Model and associated schema
2) Discuss 4 outstanding issues in the Document Object Specification
    (The document has not been updated since our last conversation.  The 6
included issues have been resolved.)
   Note that this conversation is IPP specific.

"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_DOC/pwg-ipp-document-object-latest.pdf"
3) Discuss "The Printer Working Group Standard for the Internet Printing
Protocol (IPP):
    Color and Imaging Attributes" document
   Note that this conversation is IPP specific. 
   "ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_COLOR/pwg5100.8-D01-021018.pdf"

4) Next steps

Pete
				Peter Zehler
				XEROX
				Xerox Architecture Center
				Email: PZehler <at> crt.xerox.com
				Voice:    (585) 265-8755
				FAX:      (585) 265-8871 
				US Mail: Peter Zehler
				        Xerox Corp.
				        800 Phillips Rd.
				        M/S 128-30E
				        Webster NY, 14580-9701
________________________________________________________

Dial in Info:
Phone Number: (877) 776-6306
(Phone Number for Xerox Employees: 8*594-0576)
 PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 437874#
________________________________________________
webex info:
We will also use an on line tool called webex,
if you have not used this before, setup up by
following the First Time Users instructions.
Do this in advance of the meeting.

-------------------------
FIRST TIME USERS
-------------------------
For fully interactive meetings, including the ability
to present your documents and applications, a one-time
setup takes less than 10 minutes. Click this URL to set up now:

http://hp.webex.com

Then click New User.
-------------------------

On Thursday use:
https://hp.webex.com/join/

Then click join unlisted meeting.
Use the info below:
-------------------------
Webex MEETING SUMMARY
-------------------------
Name: PWG Semantic Model 
Date: 12/5/2002
Time: 1:00PM, (GMT -04:00) Eastern Time, USA & Canada (Daylight Time)
         10:00AM, (GMT -07:00) Pacific Time, USA & Canada (Daylight Time)
Meeting Number: 21366675
Meeting Password: pwg_sm
Host: 
Bob Taylor (HP)
___________________________________________________

Wagner,William | 2 Dec 2002 21:35

PWG-ANNOUNCE> Web Based Monitoring and Management


Greetings:

I am submitting the following as a Charter draft for a Web Base Monitoring and Management Working group, in
line with the scheduled BOF at the January PWG Plenary. I invite comments. I have also established a
directory for materials related to this subject at ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wsm  (Web Services Management).

Harry, can we set up a mailing list so that we don't overload  "announce" with project specific comments? Thanks.

Best regards, 

Bill Wagner, NetSilicon

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Charter Proposal for
PWG WEB-Based Device Monitoring and Management 

Abstract
There exists a need for remote monitoring and maintenance of office imaging devices for several purposes, including:
1.	Enterprise management and configuration of equipment in remote offices
2.	Service Company monitoring of leased equipment or services for charging and maintenance
3.	Equipment Supplier access of sold or leased equipment to maintain and update equipment

This need is has been intensified by the increased complexity of equipment in scattered locations and the
need to reduce costs of maintenance and support.

Various mechanisms have been used to provide remote maintenance, including 
·	telephone hookups, where the equipment calls out on a modem, 
·	built in radio paging transmitters, 
·	various network connections, often using a proprietary protocol

Telephone and pager solutions are costly both for the equipment and in recurring charges. Custom network
approaches typically require special MIS actions to communicate through the ever-necessary firewall.
There is no standardization among the various approaches, so that different implementations are not compatible.

The prevalence of the "Web" and the consistent support of Web Browsers across enterprise, soho and home
environments suggest an effective and inexpensive method of addressing this need. Indeed, there are
some implementations in place using this mechanism. Using the WEB to allow devices to contact an
internet-accessible management server parallels and may indeed compliment the structure resulting
from the PSI initiative. 

As has been observed in the PSI charter, "When a new problem presents itself ... there will be some initial,
proprietary, solutions and some early adopters. Experience shows that standardizing certain critical
components of the solution and making the standard freely available assures interoperability among
implementations. This ultimately results in the broadest, most competitive market for the new
solution. Customer sentiment generally supports and reinforces this experience as long as the
standardization effort is concluded in a timely manner and the standardization process yields
widespread adoption and demonstrable interoperability."

In keeping with this, it is desirable to formalize the transport use in Web Based Device Monitoring and
Management and to standardize the method of communication in an extensible way to allow
interoperability between different manufacturers' imaging products and the various data base and
management programs involved in the remote monitoring and management.

In accord with this general objective, the working group should address:
Monitoring (both on an alert and a periodic basis)
Monitoring Configuration (identifying attributes to be monitored, frequency of monitoring,
conditions for reporting)
Management (configuring and/or controlling operation of the device)
Transfer of files to the Device (communicating executable updates, fonts, options, address lists etc,
along with the instructions of what to do with these files)

The implementation of these functions must address:
1.	Costs
2.	Security 
3.	Operability within typical enterprise network constraints 
4.	Compatibility with existing data base and management capabilities
5.	Compatibility with existing and anticipated infrastructure, including MIBs, the Semantic Model and PSI.
6.	Support of the installed equipment base as well as providing for inclusion in future equipment

To the extent possible, the working group should utilize protocols, techniques and procedures already in
place, both to leverage extant technology and to avoid conflict with or infringement upon proprietary
solutions. To this end, it should be aware of the work of the following organizations, as well as any
publicly documented proprietary solutions.
·	IETF xmlconf activity (http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/02jul/index.html)
·	IETF webdav (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/webdav-charter.html)
·	IETF BEEP (The Blocks Extensible Exchange Protocol Core {RFC 3080})(Mapping the BEEP Core onto TCP
{RFC 3081})
·	OASIS (https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/mgmtprotocol/)

Milestones 
Because of increased activity in this area and the increasing deployment of proprietary approaches, it is
important that the standardization activity proceed forthwith. On the other hand, the various aspects
must be given adequate consideration. The following schedule should be achievable, but may be to long. It
is suggested that the working group consider developing and disseminating a Monitoring Specification
first, and then proceeding to a full specification of the standard including more general Management capabilities.

Charter Stage 
BOF and Charter Discussion 	January 2003
Requirements Statement 	February 2003
Charter Formal Approval 	March 2003
Requirements Formal Approval 	March 2003

Analysis Stage
Consideration of Similar Initiatives	May 2003
Selection of Component Protocols 
 and Techniques	June 2002

Specification Stage 
Presentation of Initial Draft	July 2003
Proposed Draft Standard Last Call 	October 2003
Draft Standard Formal Approval 	December 2002
Interoperability Event 	Q1 2004
Proposed Standard Last Call 	Q2 2004
Published Standard 	Q2 2004

Gail Songer | 3 Dec 2002 18:22

PWG-ANNOUNCE> IPPFax Working Group Last Call for "PDF Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is" and "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol" to move to Draft


Do NOT send comments by a Reply-All to this email.  Instead, send comments
to the ifx <at> pwg.org DL (to which you must be subscribed).

All,

This is a working group Last Call to move the specifications "PDF
Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is" and "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol" to Draft.

PDF and Word versions of the drafts are posted at the pwg web site as:

      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.doc
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.pdf
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.doc
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.pdf

The Last Call notice follows:

This is a formal request for final within the IPPFax Working Group in order
to move two documents to Draft Standard. These documents are "PDF
Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is"  and the "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol". These are
IPP Working Group products, which have been discussed since early 2001. It
is the intent, once all comments have been address, to progress these
documents to Draft Standard.

Last Calls are for a minimum of 2 weeks. The period for the Working Group
comments will close on Dec 20, 2002(US Pacific time reference).

The relevant documents are:

             Title             : IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol
             Author(s)         : Thomas N. Hastings, Ira McDonald, Paul
Moore, Gail Songer, John Pulera, Rick Seeler
             Filename          :
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.pdf
             Pages             : 69
             Date              : 22 Nov 2002

IPPFAX is used to provide a synchronous, reliable exchange of image
Documents between clients and servers.  The primary use envisaged of this
protocol is to provide a synchronous image transmission service for the
Internet.  Contrast this with the Internet FAX protocol specified in
[RFC2305] and [RFC2532] that uses the SMTP mail protocol as a transport.

The IPPFAX/1.0 protocol is a specialization of the IPP/1.1 [RFC2911],
[RFC2910] protocol supporting a subset of the IPP operations with increased
conformance requirements in some cases, some restrictions in other cases,
and some additional REQUIRED attributes.  The IPPFAX Protocol uses the
'ippfax' URL scheme (instead of the 'ipp' URL scheme) in all its
operations.  Most of the new attributes defined in this document MAY be
supported by IPP Printers as OPTIONAL extensions to IPP as well.  In
addition, IPPFAX/1.0 REQUIRES the support of the IPP Event Notification
mechanism [ipp-ntfy] using the 'ippget' Pull Delivery Method
[ipp-get-method].

An IPPFAX Printer object is called a Receiver.  A Receiver MUST support at
least the PDF/is S Profile as specified in [ifx-pdfis] which is defined for
the 'application/pdf' document format MIME type .  A Print System MAY be
configured to support both the IPPFAX and IPP protocols concurrently, but
each protocol requires separate Printer objects with distinct URLs.

             Title             : PDF Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is
             Author(s)         : Rick Seeler
             Filename          :
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.pdf
             Pages             : 33
             Date              : 22 Nov 2002

PDF/is is an image document format intended for use by, but not limited to,
the IPPFAX protocol, which is used to provide a synchronous, reliable
exchange of image Documents between Senders and Receivers. PDF/is makes
reference to the PDF 1.4 Reference [pdf], which describes the PDF
representation of image data specified by the ITU-T Recommendations for
black-and-white facsimile (see [T.4], [T.6]), the ISO/IEC Specifications
for Digital Compression and Coding of Continuous-Tone Still Images (see
[jpeg]), and Lossy/Lossless Coding of Bi-Level Images (see [jbig2]), and
the general purpose Flate compression methods (see [RFC1950] and
[RFC1951]).

PDF/is is an image-only, streamable, subset specification of PDF 1.4 [pdf]
and, as such, follows all of the specification requirements of PDF.

Gail Songer
Peerless Systems Corp
650.358.8875

Dennis Carney | 6 Dec 2002 01:30
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IPP> ACT - IPP "-actual" attributes latest spec, version 0.2

I have copied version 0.2 of the IPP "-actual" attributes spec to the PWG
ftp site:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205.pdf
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205.doc
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205-rev.pdf
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205-rev.doc

This version includes the decisions made on the telecon and at the New
Orleans meeting.

The spec is 16 pages long, of which 6 1/2 pages contain the "meat" of the
proposal.

This version will be used as the basis for the discussion that is planned
to occur at next week's Semantic Model teleconference (December 12, 2002).

It was agreed that all discussion of this spec will occur on the Semantic
Model mailing list.  However, I copied this announcement to the IPP mailing
list so the existence of the spec was known.

The abstract:
This document defines an extension to the Internet Printing Protocol/1.0
(IPP/1.0) [RFC2566, RFC2565] & IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910] for the OPTIONAL
"-actual" set of Job Description attributes that correspond to Job Template
attributes defined in IPP.  These "-actual" attributes allow the client to
determine the true results of a print job regardless of what was specified
in the Create-Job or Print-Job operation.

Dennis Carney
IBM Printing Systems

Gail Songer | 9 Dec 2002 22:42

PWG-ANNOUNCE> IPPFax Working Group Last Call for "PDF Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is" and "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol" to move to Proposed

The last "Last Call" incorrectly requested that the two documents in
question be moved to DRAFT.  They instead should be moved to PROPOSED.

The modified "Last Call" is attached.

__________________

Do NOT send comments by a Reply-All to this email.  Instead, send comments
to the ifx <at> pwg.org DL (to which you must be subscribed).

All,

This is a working group Last Call to move the specifications "PDF
Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is" and "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol" to Proposed.

PDF and Word versions of the drafts are posted at the pwg web site as:

      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.doc
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.pdf
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.doc
      ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.pdf

The Last Call notice follows:

This is a formal request for final within the IPPFax Working Group in order
to move two documents to Proposed Standard. These documents are "PDF
Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is"  and the "IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol". These are
IPP Working Group products, which have been discussed since early 2001. It
is the intent, once all comments have been address, to progress these
documents to Proposed Standard.

Last Calls are for a minimum of 2 weeks. The period for the Working Group
comments will close on Dec 20, 2002(US Pacific time reference).

The relevant documents are:

             Title             : IPPFAX/1.0 Protocol
             Author(s)         : Thomas N. Hastings, Ira McDonald, Paul
Moore, Gail Songer, John Pulera, Rick Seeler
             Filename          :
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-ippfax-P13-021122.pdf
             Pages             : 69
             Date              : 22 Nov 2002

IPPFAX is used to provide a synchronous, reliable exchange of image
Documents between clients and servers.  The primary use envisaged of this
protocol is to provide a synchronous image transmission service for the
Internet.  Contrast this with the Internet FAX protocol specified in
[RFC2305] and [RFC2532] that uses the SMTP mail protocol as a transport.

The IPPFAX/1.0 protocol is a specialization of the IPP/1.1 [RFC2911],
[RFC2910] protocol supporting a subset of the IPP operations with increased
conformance requirements in some cases, some restrictions in other cases,
and some additional REQUIRED attributes.  The IPPFAX Protocol uses the
'ippfax' URL scheme (instead of the 'ipp' URL scheme) in all its
operations.  Most of the new attributes defined in this document MAY be
supported by IPP Printers as OPTIONAL extensions to IPP as well.  In
addition, IPPFAX/1.0 REQUIRES the support of the IPP Event Notification
mechanism [ipp-ntfy] using the 'ippget' Pull Delivery Method
[ipp-get-method].

An IPPFAX Printer object is called a Receiver.  A Receiver MUST support at
least the PDF/is S Profile as specified in [ifx-pdfis] which is defined for
the 'application/pdf' document format MIME type .  A Print System MAY be
configured to support both the IPPFAX and IPP protocols concurrently, but
each protocol requires separate Printer objects with distinct URLs.

             Title             : PDF Image-Streamable Format - PDF/is
             Author(s)         : Rick Seeler
             Filename          :
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/QUALDOCS/pwg-ifx-pdfis-P04-021122.pdf
             Pages             : 33
             Date              : 22 Nov 2002

PDF/is is an image document format intended for use by, but not limited to,
the IPPFAX protocol, which is used to provide a synchronous, reliable
exchange of image Documents between Senders and Receivers. PDF/is makes
reference to the PDF 1.4 Reference [pdf], which describes the PDF
representation of image data specified by the ITU-T Recommendations for
black-and-white facsimile (see [T.4], [T.6]), the ISO/IEC Specifications
for Digital Compression and Coding of Continuous-Tone Still Images (see
[jpeg]), and Lossy/Lossless Coding of Bi-Level Images (see [jbig2]), and
the general purpose Flate compression methods (see [RFC1950] and
[RFC1951]).

PDF/is is an image-only, streamable, subset specification of PDF 1.4 [pdf]
and, as such, follows all of the specification requirements of PDF.

Gail Songer
Peerless Systems Corp
650.358.8875

Zehler, Peter | 10 Dec 2002 17:03
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PWG-ANNOUNCE> RE: SM> This week's SM teleconference agenda and information

Gail,

Yes, it is a cut and paste error.  The date for the teleconference is
12/12/02.

Sorry about that,
Pete

				Peter Zehler
				XEROX
				Xerox Architecture Center
				Email: PZehler <at> crt.xerox.com
				Voice:    (585) 265-8755
				FAX:      (585) 265-8871 
				US Mail: Peter Zehler
					        Xerox Corp.
					        800 Phillips Rd.
					        M/S 128-30E
					        Webster NY, 14580-9701

-----Original Message-----
From: Gail Songer [mailto:gsonger <at> peerless.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Zehler, Peter
Subject: Re: SM> This week's SM teleconference agenda and information

Hi Pete,

The date says 12/5/02.  Is that just a typo?

Gail

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All,

This Thursday at 1pm EDT is the Semantic Model teleconference. The
teleconference is one hour long.  It will be run using both phone and
Webex.
Anyone that does not yet have Webex installed should do that before
Thursday.  Information for the phone and Webex are included below.

The agenda for the Semantic Model teleconference is

1) Adjust agenda
2) Review "-actual" specification
    (See below for more information from Dennis Carney.)
   Note that this conversation is IPP specific.  Specification is located
at:

"ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205.pdf"
3) Discuss Bob Taylor's Media schema issue (See below)
3) Status on Semantic Model and associated schema
4) Next steps

Pete
                                                 Peter Zehler
                                                 XEROX
                                                 Xerox Architecture Center
                                                 Email:
PZehler <at> crt.xerox.com
                                                 Voice:    (585) 265-8755
                                                 FAX:      (585) 265-8871
                                                 US Mail: Peter Zehler
                                                         Xerox Corp.
                                                         800 Phillips Rd.
                                                         M/S 128-30E
                                                         Webster NY,
14580-9701

PS to Bob Taylor:  Let me know if there is any problem with Webex for this
week.
________________________________________________________

Dial in Info:
Phone Number: (877) 776-6306
(Phone Number for Xerox Employees: 8*594-0576)
 PARTICIPANT PASSCODE: 437874#
________________________________________________
webex info:
We will also use an on line tool called webex,
if you have not used this before, setup up by
following the First Time Users instructions.
Do this in advance of the meeting.

-------------------------
FIRST TIME USERS:
-------------------------
For fully interactive meetings, including the ability
to present your documents and applications, a one-time
setup takes less than 10 minutes. Click this URL to set up now:

http://hp.webex.com

Then click New User.
-------------------------

On Thursday use:
https://hp.webex.com/join/

Then click join unlisted meeting.
Use the info below:
-------------------------
Webex MEETING SUMMARY
-------------------------
Name: PWG Semantic Model
Date: 12/5/2002
Time: 1:00PM, (GMT -04:00) Eastern Time, USA & Canada (Daylight Time)
         10:00AM, (GMT -07:00) Pacific Time, USA & Canada (Daylight Time)
Meeting Number: 21366675
Meeting Password: pwg_sm
Host:
Bob Taylor (HP)
___________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________________

_________
"-actual" information from Dennis Carney:
I have copied version 0.2 of the IPP "-actual" attributes spec to the PWG
ftp site:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205.pdf
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205.doc
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205-rev.pd

f
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/new_ACT/pwg-ipp-actual-attrs-v02-021205-rev.do

c

This version includes the decisions made on the telecon and at the New
Orleans meeting.

The spec is 16 pages long, of which 6 1/2 pages contain the "meat" of the
proposal.

This version will be used as the basis for the discussion that is planned
to occur at next week's Semantic Model teleconference (December 12, 2002).

It was agreed that all discussion of this spec will occur on the Semantic
Model mailing list.  However, I copied this announcement to the IPP mailing
list so the existence of the spec was known.

The abstract:
This document defines an extension to the Internet Printing Protocol/1.0
(IPP/1.0) [RFC2566, RFC2565] & IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910] for the OPTIONAL
"-actual" set of Job Description attributes that correspond to Job Template
attributes defined in IPP.  These "-actual" attributes allow the client to
determine the true results of a print job regardless of what was specified
in the Create-Job or Print-Job operation.

____________________________________________________________________________

_________
Media Schema issue from Bob Taylor:
One schema structure issue we're running into: the current handling
of MediaElements is a little confusing.  The intent is that you just
import PWGSemanticElements.xsd into other schemas, but if you also import
MediaElements.xsd, you get redefinition validation errors.  The answer
might just be "don't do that", but I'd like to talk about it briefly
on Thursday - i.e., should we change the way MediaElements relates to
PWGSemanticElements to make it a little less error prone, or do we
just document the problem away?
____________________________________________________________________________

___________

Carl | 14 Dec 2002 09:08

IPP> Submission from [Ron.Bergman <at> hitachi-ps.us]

Forwarded. 

Ron please reregister your latest email address.

Carl-Uno

Carl-Uno Manros
10701 S Eastern Ave #1117
Henderson, NV 89052, USA
Tel +1-702-617-9414
Fax +1-702-617-9417
Mob +1-702-525-0727
Email carl <at> manros.com
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Tom,

Looks like a good start for color support!

I have two minor comments:

  1. The "resource-cleanup" attribute should be split to separate the
function and the applicable files.
      example:
	resource-cleanup (type 3 keyword) 
	resource-files (1setOf name(MAX))

  2. I suggest "colorants-supported" be renamed to "colorants-ready" to be
more consistent with the
     usage of "supported" and "ready" in other attribute names.

	Ron

a.s.patel | 16 Dec 2002 17:26
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PWG-ANNOUNCE> REMINDER:Re: January 20-24, 2003, Maui Hawaii Registration Update


Hello All,

This is a reminder to please register (
https://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html) to attend the upcoming
January 20-24, 2003 meeting in Maui, Hawaii.

The deadline for reserving sleeping accomodations at the Sheraton Kaanapali
Beach Resort is Friday, December 27, 2002.  Please make your reservations
by completing the reservation form on the registration site and faxing it
to +1-808-661-0458 to make your reservations.

Additional information regarding the specific meeting room location and
details about the local area will be provided to you in a future update.

If you have any questions or concerns regarding your reservations or
anything else, please do not hesitate to contact me.

With Kindest Regards,
****************************************************************
Ami Patel
IEEE-ISTO
c/o The Printer Working Group
Administrative Assistant
Phone: 732 465 6477
Fax: +1 651 318 7292
AIM: Shortjunior
email:  a.s.patel <at> ieee.org
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                    Ami Patel                                                                                      
                                         To:     pwg-announce <at> pwg.org                                              
                    11/22/2002           cc:                                                                       
                    04:19 PM             Subject:     January 20-24, 2003, Maui Hawaii Registration Update         

Greetings All,

The PWG Registration page is now available at
http://www.ieee-isto.org/pwg/registration.html.  Please register to attend
the upcoming January 20-24, 2003 PWG Meeting in Maui, Hawaii.

There is a daily attendance fee of US$45.00. (Payments are processed on the
first day of the meeting series.)  This fee is to cover food/beverage and
meeting accomodations at the Bouboun Orleans.

The deadline for reserving sleeping accommodations at the Sheraton Maui
Resort is December 27, 2002.  Please use the reservation form on the
registration page to make your reservations.    If you have any problems
with making your sleeping room reservations, please contact me directly so
that I may notify the hotel.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to
contact me at any time.

With Kind Regards,

~Ami

Adminstrative Assistant
IEEE-ISTO
c/o The Printer Working Group
Phone: 732-465-6477


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