I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-07.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : POP3 Support for UTF-8
	Author(s)       : Randall Gellens
                          Chris Newman
                          Jiankang Yao
                          Kazunori Fujiwara
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-07.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2012-07-31

Abstract:
   This specification extends the Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3)
   to support UTF-8 encoded international string in user names,
   passwords, mail addresses, message headers, and protocol-level
   textual strings.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-07

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-07

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages
	Author(s)       : Kazunori Fujiwara
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2012-08-01

Abstract:
   The Email Address Internationalization (SMTPUTF8) extension to SMTP
   allows UTF-8 characters in mail header fields.  Upgraded POP and IMAP
   servers support internationalized Email messages.  If a POP/IMAP
   client does not support Email Address Internationalization, POP/IMAP
   servers cannot deliver Internationalized Email Headers to the client
   and cannot remove the message.  To avoid the situation, this document
   describes a conversion mechanism for internationalized Email messages
   to be in traditional message format.  In the process, message
   elements requiring internationalized treatment are recoded or removed
   and receivers are able to know that they received messages containing
   such elements even if they cannot process the internationalized
   elements.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07

I-D Action: draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-07.txt

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : IMAP Support for UTF-8
	Author(s)       : Pete Resnick
                          Chris Newman
                          Sean Shen
	Filename        : draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-07.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2012-08-01

Abstract:
   This specification extends the Internet Message Access Protocol
   version 4rev1 (IMAP4rev1) to support UTF-8 encoded international
   characters in user names, mail addresses and message headers.  This
   specification replaces RFC 5738.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-5738bis

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-07

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-07

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

Re: New documents coming?

On 07/30/2012 08:32 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
> Assuming the WG agrees with you that we don't  need a new draft
> before discussion on Thursday, it would be reasonable for you to
> wait until the end of this week or beginning of next to generate
> a new draft.   If you had the energy to prepare a short note
> listing those changes that you consider substantive but
> uncontroversial, that would be helpful.
>
> good luck with the catchup process -- hope you are fully
> recovered at least.

All well, just struggling with the backlog.

The substantive issue was in fact not be from your review, it was the 
older open issue. Since noone has said a word about it I assume people 
don't think it's worth the bother, so I just deleted the issue and will 
keep the response code name and semantics as in the present draft.

I don't think I can manage the wordsmithing necessary for your textual 
issues today. Sorry.

Arnt

Re: New documents coming?

--On Wednesday, 01 August, 2012 15:24 +0200 Arnt Gulbrandsen
<arnt <at> gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote:

> The substantive issue was in fact not be from your review, it
> was the older open issue. Since noone has said a word about it
> I assume people don't think it's worth the bother, so I just
> deleted the issue and will keep the response code name and
> semantics as in the present draft.

It might be helpful to mention it to the list, just as a last
check.  But I'll leave that to your discretion unless someone
else feels strongly about it.

> I don't think I can manage the wordsmithing necessary for your
> textual issues today. Sorry.

No problem.  I'd like those changes made before we actually hand
of for IETF Last Call, but I don't expect/intend the WG to spend
f2f time debating editorial trivia or other textual changes.  

Good luck with your backlog.
   john

slides and agenda link

All,

Just to inform everyone again where the agenda and slides are for
tomorrow's meeting.

http://tools.ietf.org/wg/eai/agenda

Regards,
Joseph

draft-ietf-eai-email-clients-01pre

Ernie and I tried to update draft-ietf-eai-email-clients-00 last year.

I attached new version which exist in my machine for 1.5 years.

It tried to describe "Error and re-send model".

Does anyone have an interest for the document ?

If so, I will update it.

Regards,

--
Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS <fujiwara <at> jprs.co.jp>

Email Address Internationalization                             E. Dainow
(EAI)                                                            Afilias
Internet-Draft                                               K. Fujiwara
Intended status: Informational                                      JPRS
Expires: June 20, 2010                                 December 17, 2009

             Guidelines for Internationalized Email Clients
                    draft-ietf-eai-email-clients-01

Abstract

   This document provides some guidelines for email clients that support
   Email Address Internationalization (EAI) as outlined in

What some MUAs did with a message with an empty From group

Executive summary: nothing broke.

* Alpine (my normal client)

Displayed OK.  Invented a matching Reply-To: line.  If I reply, the To: line is empty.

* Thunderbird

Displayed OK. Reply put the same empty From: group on the To: line, rejects attempts to
send it with a message saying to fix the To: line.

* Evolution

Displayed OK. Reply has a blank To: line.

* Android mail

Displayed OK. Reply has a blank To: line.

* Squirrelmail (popular webmail IMAP client)

Displayed OK, reply put the null group on the To: line and let you try
to send mail to it.

* Yahoo Mail

Filed as spam but displayed reasonably.  Reply had an empty To: line.

* Gmail

Re: What some MUAs did with a message with an empty From group

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Re: New documents coming?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arnt Gulbrandsen" <arnt <at> gulbrandsen.priv.no>
To: "John C Klensin" <klensin <at> jck.com>
Cc: <ima <at> ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [EAI] New documents coming?

> On 07/30/2012 08:32 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> Assuming the WG agrees with you that we don't  need a new draft
>> before discussion on Thursday, it would be reasonable for you to
>> wait until the end of this week or beginning of next to generate
>> a new draft.   If you had the energy to prepare a short note
>> listing those changes that you consider substantive but
>> uncontroversial, that would be helpful.
>>
>> good luck with the catchup process -- hope you are fully
>> recovered at least.
> 
> All well, just struggling with the backlog.
> 

how about your backlog?

I think that chairs are waiting for your new version draft before sending 4 drafts to AD.

If everything is ok, could you kindly update the draft ASAP?

Jiankang Yao

> The substantive issue was in fact not be from your review, it was the 
> older open issue. Since noone has said a word about it I assume people 
> don't think it's worth the bother, so I just deleted the issue and will 
> keep the response code name and semantics as in the present draft.
> 
> I don't think I can manage the wordsmithing necessary for your textual 
> issues today. Sorry.
> 
> Arnt
> 
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