johnsonhammond2 | 27 Apr 2013 18:51
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Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science

We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on  
the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP 
( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia 
from University of Georgia, USA.

We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper 
with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous 
fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: 

(1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa
(2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic
(3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance
(4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model 
(5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer
(6). Laptop is an example for a super computer
(7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware

Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning.  However, it 
was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without 
any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a 
payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the 
fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman 
of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from 
WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. 

We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts 
to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP.  DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped 
indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See 
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John C Klensin | 11 Mar 2013 23:26

Finished! Future of the WG

Hi.

Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt
action in sign off.  All documents should be moving into the RFC
Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume,
announced and published in the next several days.

So...

Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience.  

Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the
working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives.

The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of
implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for
further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take
out of the WG's work commitments until there is more
implementation experience.

Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do
so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the
design team/ authors mailing list.

Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors,
for sticking with it.  I think the WG can be proud of its work
and the quality of the specs.  Now I anxiously await
implementations and deployment.

     john
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John C Klensin | 11 Mar 2013 23:28

Finished! Future of the WG

Hi.

Thanks to Chris Newman and Kazunori Fujawara for their prompt
action in sign off.  All documents should be moving into the RFC
Editor's final publication process now and, I would assume,
announced and published in the next several days.

So...

Thanks to everyone for hard work and patience.  

Pete, please consider this a formal request to shut down the
working group and let Joseph and me get on with out lives.

The mailing list will remain open for general discussions of
implementation issues and experiences and, in particular, for
further work on the various "advice" documents we agreed to take
out of the WG's work commitments until there is more
implementation experience.

Unless someone can come up with a good reason to keep it and do
so within the next few days, I will ask Harald to shut down the
design team/ authors mailing list.

Again, thanks to everyone, especially the authors and editors,
for sticking with it.  I think the WG can be proud of its work
and the quality of the specs.  Now I anxiously await
implementations and deployment.

     john
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John C Klensin | 10 Mar 2013 00:24

Status of the four (or five) documents

Hi.

I'm copying the full EAI list on this because I'm sure people
are wondering what black hole the documents dropped into.  The
very high-level summary is that the RFC Editor had serious
problems getting several of them into shape that would be
appropriate for publication.  That led to some intense reviews,
which turned up problems with terminology and related issues.
Some of those had to be resolved because they created
ambiguities or confusion, others just were worth cleaning up as
we were doing other work.

I want to stress that the RFC Editor has been very helpful about
all of this and has put in a lot of extra effort, both of which
I appreciate and believe the rest of the WG should too.  Insofar
as there is a problem, it is our fault for being too optimistic
about what they could and would fix without a lot of input from
us.  I think we are all learning for the future.

A note from the outgoing IETF Chair that essentially suggested
that documents that had taken this long and been this much work
(especially for the RFC Editor) should be returned to the WG so
that they could be revised, reviewed by the WG and put through
Last Call again further complicated matters and led to some
additional delays.  We assumed the WG wouldn't be happy with the
several more months of delay that would imply, but see below.

At this stage, I think the current status is as follows (if I
have any of this wrong, please someone correct me).  Because of
crosswise normative references and the like, these documents are
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srilatha yenigalla | 28 Jan 2013 19:35
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John C Klensin | 21 Nov 2012 21:56

Re: RFC Editor Notes for documents


--On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 13:38 -0600 Pete Resnick
<presnick <at> qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:

> On 11/20/12 7:11 PM, Jiankang YAO wrote:
> 
>> so, does it mean that we can see the approved message sent
>> from IESG secretary within this week?
>>    
> They have been sent.

On behalf of the WG, many thanks to you and Barry.

Best Thanksgiving wishes to those who celebrate that holiday
tomorrow.  

   john
The IESG | 21 Nov 2012 20:33
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Protocol Action: 'Simplified POP/IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt)

The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Simplified POP/IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email'
  (draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade/

[Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent
documents:

draft-ietf-eai-5738bis
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade
draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade

These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood
together.]

   Technical Summary

      This document specifies a method for IMAP and POP servers to
      serve internationalized messages to conventional clients.  The
      specification is simple, easy to implement and provides only
      rudimentary results.

   Working Group Summary

      No particular process issues of note. The WG had extensive and
      constructive discussions about the role of "downgrading" (e.g.,
      converting a message stored on the server that contains non-ASCII
      header or envelope information) in the transition to an all-i18n
      environment.  Some of those issues and tradeoffs are discussed in
      draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade and
      draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade.  In some cases, the best strategy
      may be to "hide" those messages that cannot be delivered without
      change to legacy clients either with or without some attempt at an
      error message.  A complete treatment of those options is
      impossible because the optimal strategies will depend considerably
      on local circumstances.  Consequently the base IMAP and POP3
      documents are no longer dependent on particular downgrading
      choices and that two methods presented are, to a considerable
      extent, just examples.  They are recommended as alternative
      Standards Track documents because they are protocol specifications
      and their sometimes-subtle details have have been carefully worked
      out, even though the WG has no general recommendation to make
      between them (or other strategies).

      While opinions differ in the WG about which downgrading mechanisms
      are likely to see the most use, if any, consensus is strong that
      these four documents represent the correct output.

   Document Quality

      Some development and interoperability testing has occurred and is
      progressing.  There are strong commitments in various countries to
      implement and deploy the EAI (more properly, SMTPUTF8) messages
      and functions specified in RFCs 6530 through 6533.  Those messages
      will be inaccessible to many users without POP3 and IMAP support,
      so these specifications are quite likely to be implemented and
      deployed in a timely fashion.

      Reviewers who made particular contributions prior to IETF Last
      Call are acknowledged in the documents.  See Section 3 for
      additional information.

   Personnel

      Document Shepherd:   John C Klensin
      Responsible Area Director:   Pete Resnick

   RFC Editor Notes:

OLD (Section 1)
   containing internationalized messages, or even attempt to read

NEW
   containing internationalized messages, or even attempts to read

---

OLD (Section 1)
	proper support for [RFC5721] and/or [RFC5738].

NEW: 
	proper support for [I-D.ietf-eai-rfc5721bis] and/or
[I-D.ietf-eai-5738bis].

---

OLD (Section 2)
	encouraged to implement [RFC5738].
NEW
	encouraged to implement [I-D.ietf-eai-rfc5721bis] and/or
	[I-D.ietf-eai-5738bis].

---

OLD (Section 7)

   If the internationalized message uses any sort of signature, the
   synthetic message's signature almost certainly is invalid.  This is a
   necessary limitation of displaying internationalized messages in
   conventional clients, since the client does not support
   internationalized addresses.

NEW

   If the internationalized message uses any sort of signature that
   covers header fields, the synthetic message's signature almost
   certainly is invalid and may be invalid in other cases.  This is a
   necessary limitation of displaying internationalized messages in
   legacy clients, since those clients do not support internationalized
   header fields.  These cases are discussed in somewhat more detail in
   [I-D.ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade].   Even though invalid, these
   signatures SHOULD NOT be removed from the synthetic message,
   preserving as much of the information as possible from the original
   message.

---

OLD (Section 9)

   [RFC5721]  Gellens, R., and C. Newman, "POP3 Support for UTF-8", RFC
              5721, February 2010.
   [RFC5738]  Resnick, P. and C. Newman, "IMAP Support for UTF-8", RFC
              5738, March 2010.

NEW

   [I-D.ietf-eai-rfc5721bis]       Gellens, R., Newman, C., Yao, J., and
                                   K. Fujiwara, "POP3 Support for
                                   UTF-8", draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-08
                                   (work in progress), October 2012.

   [I-D.ietf-eai-5738bis]          Resnick, P., Newman, C., and S. Shen,
                                   "IMAP Support for UTF-8",
                                   draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-09 (work in
                                   progress), August 2012.

   [I-D.ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade]  Fujiwara, K., "Post-delivery
                                     Message Downgrading for
                                     Internationalized Email Messages",
                                     draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-08
                                     (work in progress), October 2012.
The IESG | 21 Nov 2012 20:33
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Protocol Action: 'POP3 Support for UTF-8' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-08.txt)

The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'POP3 Support for UTF-8'
  (draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis-08.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis/

[Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent
documents:

draft-ietf-eai-5738bis
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade
draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade

These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood
together.]

   Technical Summary

      This specification extends the Post Office Protocol version 3
      (POP3) to support UTF-8 encoded international string in user
      names, passwords, mail addresses, message headers, and
      protocol-level textual strings.

   Working Group Summary

      No particular process issues of note. The WG had extensive and
      constructive discussions about the role of "downgrading" (e.g.,
      converting a message stored on the server that contains non-ASCII
      header or envelope information) in the transition to an all-i18n
      environment.  Some of those issues and tradeoffs are discussed in
      draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade and
      draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade.  In some cases, the best strategy
      may be to "hide" those messages that cannot be delivered without
      change to legacy clients either with or without some attempt at an
      error message.  A complete treatment of those options is
      impossible because the optimal strategies will depend considerably
      on local circumstances.  Consequently the base IMAP and POP3
      documents are no longer dependent on particular downgrading
      choices and that two methods presented are, to a considerable
      extent, just examples.  They are recommended as alternative
      Standards Track documents because they are protocol specifications
      and their sometimes-subtle details have have been carefully worked
      out, even though the WG has no general recommendation to make
      between them (or other strategies).

      While opinions differ in the WG about which downgrading mechanisms
      are likely to see the most use, if any, consensus is strong that
      these four documents represent the correct output.

   Document Quality

      Some development and interoperability testing has occurred and is
      progressing.  There are strong commitments in various countries to
      implement and deploy the EAI (more properly, SMTPUTF8) messages
      and functions specified in RFCs 6530 through 6533.  Those messages
      will be inaccessible to many users without POP3 and IMAP support,
      so these specifications are quite likely to be implemented and
      deployed in a timely fashion.

      Reviewers who made particular contributions prior to IETF Last
      Call are acknowledged in the documents.  See Section 3 for
      additional information.

   Personnel

      Document Shepherd:   John C Klensin
      Responsible Area Director:   Pete Resnick

RFC Editor Note:

Please remove section 8 before publication.
The IESG | 21 Nov 2012 20:32
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Protocol Action: 'Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-08.txt)

The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email
Messages'
  (draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-08.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Pete Resnick and Barry Leiba.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade/

[Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent
documents:

draft-ietf-eai-5738bis
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade
draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade

These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood
together.]

   Technical Summary

      The Email Address Internationalization (SMTPUTF8) extension to
      SMTP allows UTF-8 characters in mail header fields.  Upgraded POP
      and IMAP servers support internationalized Email messages. If a
      POP/IMAP client does not support Email Address
      Internationalization, POP/IMAP servers cannot deliver
      Internationalized Email Headers to the client and cannot remove
      the message.  To avoid the situation, this document describes a
      conversion mechanism for internationalized Email messages to be in
      traditional message format.  In the process, message elements
      requiring internationalized treatment are recoded or removed and
      receivers are able to know that they received messages containing
      such elements even if they cannot process the internationalized
      elements.

   Working Group Summary

      No particular process issues of note. The WG had extensive and
      constructive discussions about the role of "downgrading" (e.g.,
      converting a message stored on the server that contains non-ASCII
      header or envelope information) in the transition to an all-i18n
      environment.  Some of those issues and tradeoffs are discussed in
      draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade and
      draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade.  In some cases, the best strategy
      may be to "hide" those messages that cannot be delivered without
      change to legacy clients either with or without some attempt at an
      error message.  A complete treatment of those options is
      impossible because the optimal strategies will depend considerably
      on local circumstances.  Consequently the base IMAP and POP3
      documents are no longer dependent on particular downgrading
      choices and that two methods presented are, to a considerable
      extent, just examples.  They are recommended as alternative
      Standards Track documents because they are protocol specifications
      and their sometimes-subtle details have have been carefully worked
      out, even though the WG has no general recommendation to make
      between them (or other strategies).

      While opinions differ in the WG about which downgrading mechanisms
      are likely to see the most use, if any, consensus is strong that
      these four documents represent the correct output.

   Document Quality

      Some development and interoperability testing has occurred and is
      progressing.  There are strong commitments in various countries to
      implement and deploy the EAI (more properly, SMTPUTF8) messages
      and functions specified in RFCs 6530 through 6533.  Those messages
      will be inaccessible to many users without POP3 and IMAP support,
      so these specifications are quite likely to be implemented and
      deployed in a timely fashion.

      Reviewers who made particular contributions prior to IETF Last
      Call are acknowledged in the documents.  See Section 3 for
      additional information.

   Personnel

      Document Shepherd:   John C Klensin
      Responsible Area Director:   Pete Resnick

   RFC Editor Note

OLD
   This procedure may generate empty <group> elements in
   "From:", "Sender:" and "Reply-To:" header fields.
   [I-D.leiba-5322upd-from-group] updates [RFC5322] to allow
   (empty) <group> elements in "From:", "Sender:" and
   "Reply-To:" header fields.

NEW
   This procedure may generate empty <group> elements in
   "From:",    "Sender:" and "Reply-To:" header fields.
   [I-D.leiba-5322upd-from-group] updates [RFC5322] to allow
   (empty) <group> elements in "From:" and "Sender:".
The IESG | 21 Nov 2012 20:32
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Protocol Action: 'IMAP Support for UTF-8' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt)

The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'IMAP Support for UTF-8'
  (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization
Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-eai-5738bis/

[Please note: This document is one a set of four interdependent
documents:

draft-ietf-eai-5738bis
draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade
draft-ietf-eai-rfc5721bis
draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade

These documents should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood
together.]

Technical Summary

      These four EAI documents make up a set that are interdependent
      and should be reviewed, evaluated, and understood together.  Their
      abstracts have been examined and verified to sufficiency to
      describe the individual documents.

      The abstract for this particular document reads:

         This specification extends the Internet Message Access Protocol
         version 4rev1 (IMAP4rev1) to support UTF-8 encoded
         international characters in user names, mail addresses and
         message headers.  This specification replaces RFC 5738.

Working Group Summary

      No particular process issues of note. The WG had extensive and
      constructive discussions about the role of "downgrading" (e.g.,
      converting a message stored on the server that contains non-ASCII
      header or envelope information) in the transition to an all-i18n
      environment.  Some of those issues and tradeoffs are discussed in
      draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade and
      draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade.  In some cases, the best strategy
      may be to "hide" those messages that cannot be delivered without
      change to legacy clients either with or without some attempt at an
      error message.  A complete treatment of those options is
      impossible because the optimal strategies will depend considerably
      on local circumstances.  Consequently the base IMAP and POP3
      documents are no longer dependent on particular downgrading
      choices and that two methods presented are, to a considerable
      extent, just examples.  They are recommended as alternative
      Standards Track documents because they are protocol specifications
      and their sometimes-subtle details have have been carefully worked
      out, even though the WG has no general recommendation to make
      between them (or other strategies).

      While opinions differ in the WG about which downgrading mechanisms
      are likely to see the most use, if any, consensus is strong that
      these four documents represent the correct output.

Document Quality

      Some development and interoperability testing has occurred and is
      progressing.  There are strong commitments in various countries to
      implement and deploy the EAI (more properly, SMTPUTF8) messages
      and functions specified in RFCs 6530 through 6533.  Those messages
      will be inaccessible to many users without POP3 and IMAP support,
      so these specifications are quite likely to be implemented and
      deployed in a timely fashion.

      Reviewers who made particular contributions prior to IETF Last
      Call are acknowledged in the documents.  See Section 3 for
      additional information.

Personnel

      Document Shepherd:   John C Klensin
      Responsible Area Director:   Pete Resnick

         Note that Pete Resnick is listed as a co-author on this
         document as a result of contributions well before he became AD
         (and primarily to its the Experimental predecessor.  He has not
         been actively involved in an author or editor role since
         joining the IESG.

RFC Editor Notes (late addition; sorry, IESG Secretary)

The document contains the pre-5378 disclaimer, but that isn't necessary; please
remove it.

Also, please add an informative reference to RFC 5530, and add a citation to it in
Section 6:
OLD
   A server that
   advertises "UTF8=ONLY" will reject with a "NO [CANNOT]" response any
   command that might require UTF-8 support and is not preceded by an
   "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command.
NEW
   A server that
   advertises "UTF8=ONLY" will reject with a "NO [CANNOT]" response [RFC5530]
   any command that might require UTF-8 support and is not preceded by an
   "ENABLE UTF8=ACCEPT" command.
Joseph Yee | 16 Nov 2012 20:58

EAI Minutes - IETF 85

All,

The minutes of EAI at IETF85 are available at
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-eai

Regards,
Joseph

Gmane