Cullen Jennings | 17 Mar 16:58 2007
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ieprep test


Just testing if this is all working - sorry, Cullen
James M. Polk | 18 Mar 02:18 2007
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Re: ieprep test

At 10:58 AM 3/17/2007, Cullen Jennings wrote:

>Just testing if this is all working - sorry, Cullen

yep - it's working

but it is a silent list lately... ;-)

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Fred Baker | 20 Mar 03:29 2007
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Hiccup Bar BOF


Ad-HOC meeting "Harnessing IP for Critical Communications Using  
Precedence (HICCUP)"
Tuesday 11:50-12:50, Congress I
Mailing List: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup

The meeting purpose is to bring together people interested in  
critical communications to describe the problem space, give some  
examples where critical communications are needed, and provide a  
venue to exchange ideas on how to move forward.

Agenda

Agenda bashing (5 minutes)
Proposed Charter Overview - (5 minutes) chair
US DHS/NCS (10 minutes)
NATO (10 minutes)
US DoD GIG (10 minutes)
General Discussion (20 minutes)
Fred Baker | 20 Mar 06:19 2007
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Re: Hiccup Bar BOF

There were a lot of things that didn't work in Katrina. Fuel trucks  
that would have run communications diverted to fuel hospitals, for  
example. The delayed recognition at the state level of the emergency  
that legally prevented the deployment of federal resources, later  
reported as a delay on the part of FEMA. The fact that wireless  
networks deployed for use by first responders were swamped by well- 
meaning volunteers who set up their web sites over those same  
networks. ...

The fact that COs were ripped out of the ground bodily, or being 25'  
below sea level had their generators flooded, really didn't help.

There are a lot of issues above the application layer.

Note that this refers to "times of crisis". I don't think it has in  
view times when one has to parachute in a new network because the old  
one has been swept away bodily. It has to do with the one we've got.

On Mar 20, 2007, at 5:32 AM, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine  
wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I'm out in the middle of Joshua Tree, so I won't be at the bar.
>
> After the Katerina landfall the wireless volunteer efforts, plus  
> the Naval Post-Graduate School group that had prior exercise in the  
> Boxing Day Tsunami aid effort found some pretty banal problems.
>
> Nothing sexy like QoS, but lack of "I am alive (or not)" db app and  
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King, Kimberly S. | 20 Mar 13:01 2007
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Of interest to IEPREP

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Harnessing IP for Critical Communications Using Precedence 
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Mailing List: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup
<https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup>  has additional
information.

 

King, Kimberly S. | 20 Mar 15:59 2007
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RE: [HICCUP] IEPREP Relationship

Hannes,

IEPREP did useful work in this area but did not achieve the re-charter
process.  
The IESG had some concerns. See 
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ieprep/current/msg02572.html and
hence
a BOF is needed in order to further the work incorporating the IESG
feedback.   

My understanding is that ieprep will officially be shut-down. We are
discussing holding a HICCUP BOF in Chicago will provide the starting
point.

Kimberly

-----Original Message-----
From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig <at> gmx.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:40 PM
To: hiccup <at> ietf.org
Subject: [HICCUP] IEPREP Relationship

Hi all,

I would like to understand what the relationship to IEPREP is.
Is there more information available regarding the scope and purpose of 
the work (other than what's written at 
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup)

Ciao
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Hannes Tschofenig | 28 Mar 21:59 2007
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Re: Hiccup Bar BOF

Hi Fred,

I wasn't able to attend the Bar BOF. Are meeting minutes, slides, 
Podcasts, etc. available?

Ciao
Hannes

Fred Baker wrote:
>
>
> Ad-HOC meeting "Harnessing IP for Critical Communications Using 
> Precedence (HICCUP)"
> Tuesday 11:50-12:50, Congress I
> Mailing List: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup
>
> The meeting purpose is to bring together people interested in critical 
> communications to describe the problem space, give some examples where 
> critical communications are needed, and provide a venue to exchange 
> ideas on how to move forward.
>
> Agenda
>
> Agenda bashing (5 minutes)
> Proposed Charter Overview - (5 minutes) chair
> US DHS/NCS (10 minutes)
> NATO (10 minutes)
> US DoD GIG (10 minutes)
> General Discussion (20 minutes)
>
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Fred Baker | 28 Mar 22:17 2007
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Re: Hiccup Bar BOF

I haven't seen the minutes yet. Presentations were pretty thin.

I have been told that it will all be in the proceedings, though.

On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> I wasn't able to attend the Bar BOF. Are meeting minutes, slides,  
> Podcasts, etc. available?
>
> Ciao
> Hannes
>
> Fred Baker wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ad-HOC meeting "Harnessing IP for Critical Communications Using  
>> Precedence (HICCUP)"
>> Tuesday 11:50-12:50, Congress I
>> Mailing List: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiccup
>>
>> The meeting purpose is to bring together people interested in  
>> critical communications to describe the problem space, give some  
>> examples where critical communications are needed, and provide a  
>> venue to exchange ideas on how to move forward.
>>
>> Agenda
>>
>> Agenda bashing (5 minutes)
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Hannes Tschofenig | 28 Mar 21:57 2007
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SDO Emergency Service Workshop 2007

Hi all,

some of you might be interested in this workshop about 
citizen-to-authority emergency services:
http://www.emergency-services-coordination.info/2007/

Ciao
Hannes
James M. Polk | 28 Mar 22:34 2007
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Re: Hiccup Bar BOF

Hannes

There was only one presentation, 2 slides from US DHS/NCS.  US DOD 
did not present with slides, and NATO did not present at all.

I think Kimberly King was talking minutes.

Any minutes generated will show that nothing positive was gained from 
this meeting.

James

At 03:17 PM 3/28/2007, Fred Baker wrote:
>I haven't seen the minutes yet. Presentations were pretty thin.
>
>I have been told that it will all be in the proceedings, though.
>
>On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>
>>Hi Fred,
>>
>>I wasn't able to attend the Bar BOF. Are meeting minutes, slides,
>>Podcasts, etc. available?
>>
>>Ciao
>>Hannes
>>
>>Fred Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>
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