George Michaelson | 6 Apr 14:58 2016
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Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]

Since I stopped ranting at Warren things have been very quiet, but I can rant more about over-egging the omlette if you like..

There is nothing wrong with iepg being off-system, and it doesn't need improving or changing. 

Please, don't break it trying to improve it.  Its working fine. It just needs an oil change and brake shoes replacing from time to time, there is nothing wrong with the motor under the hood and we don't need new seats or a sun roof.

-G

On 6 April 2016 at 09:55, Geoff Huston <gih <at> apnic.net> wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2016, at 12:28 PM, Chris Morrow <morrowc-mpT63UlkluUi5wvc6DhUiQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> At Wed, 6 Apr 2016 08:27:17 +1200,
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>
>> On 06/04/2016 08:12, Chris Morrow wrote:
>>> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
>>> Fernando Gont wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>>>>>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this.    if its posted via IETF, meets during IETF,  why is it NOT ietf?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by RFC 4879)?
>>>>> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
>>>>> a separate issue.)
>>>
>>> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
>>> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
>>
>> After the event, yes. In real time, it would be handy to have them
>> on the meeting materials page. But it's not a big deal. I value the
>> informality more, even if it isn't helpful when you're a few 1000km
>> away, as I am this week.
>
> ah, so we've been trying to get the slides up to geoff/iepg-site prior
> to the meeting. This was one of the reasons I asked for the slides to
> be sent before 11pm the night before the meeting :)
>
> I'm aiming to get the slides to geoff/site the evening before the meeting.

And I try to put the slides up when I get them from Chris.


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Tim Chown | 5 Apr 22:56 2016
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Re: IEPG outreach [was Re: Slides, agenda.]

> On 5 Apr 2016, at 21:27, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 06/04/2016 08:12, Chris Morrow wrote:
>> At Tue, 5 Apr 2016 16:58:45 -0300,
>> Fernando Gont wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 11/09/2014 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2014 13:54, manning bill wrote:
>>>>> sorry - I guess I was reading a bit more into this.    if its posted via IETF, meets during IETF,  why is it NOT ietf?
>>>> 
>>>> Because it works better as an informal rule-free meeting?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you really want it to be subject to RFC 5378 and RFC 3979 (updated by RFC 4879)?
>>>> I think it works better with the only relevant BCP being #38 ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> (I'm all for making the agenda and slides easy to find, but that's
>>>> a separate issue.)
>> 
>> is it really THAT hard to: "iepg slides" into your favorite
>> webcrawler... or iepg.org/ and get the slides from there?
> 
> After the event, yes. In real time, it would be handy to have them
> on the meeting materials page. But it's not a big deal. I value the
> informality more, even if it isn't helpful when you're a few 1000km
> away, as I am this week.

I’m pretty sure I found the slides were up on the iepg site before the meeting started. 

I agree on keeping it clearly separate and not subject to note well.

tim
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Chris Morrow | 2 Apr 18:01 2016
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Slides for Buenos Aires Meeting


For those folk presenting, please send slides to:
  warren@...
  morrowc@...

(or the list here, if you want, though that may get ugly in the archives)

Send before 11pm local BA time tonight please...

Thanks!
-chris
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Warren Kumari | 11 Feb 19:02 2016
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IEPG call for agenda / presentations.

Hi there all,

We are starting to organize the IEPG meeting in Buenos Aires.
As always, the IEPG will be meeting on the Sunday before the IETF, from 10:00-noon.

If you'd like to request agenda time, please let us know...

The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to
IETF meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially one
of operational relevance in some form or fashion.
Here are some of the previous presentations so that you can get a feel
for the sorts of things that we discuss: http://www.iepg.org/

Obviously we'd like to get a wider / different set of topics, but at
least this way you have a general idea...

IEPG participants are generally friendly (and you probably know most of
them already) so if you are someone who is nervous about presenting,
this is a safe place to get some experience....



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Geoff Huston | 1 Nov 03:33 2015
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slides from today's IEPG meeting

are in the usual place online: http://www.iepg.org/2015-11-01-ietf94/index.html

Geoff

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Warren Kumari | 1 Oct 19:34 2015
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Call for agenda items for IEPG meeting in Yokohama - (IETF94)

Hi there all,

The IEPG will be meeting on the Sunday before the IETF, from 10:00-noon.

If you'd like to request agenda time, please let us know...

The IEPG is an informal gathering that meets on the Sunday prior to
IETF meetings. The intended theme of these meetings is essentially one
of operational relevance in some form or fashion.
Here are some of the previous presentations so that you can get a feel
for the sorts of things that we discuss: http://www.iepg.org/
Obviously we'd like to get a wider / different set of topics, but at
least this way you have a general idea...

IEPG participants are generally friendly, and you probably know most of
them already, so if you are someone who is nervous about presenting,
this is a safe place to get some experience....

W
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
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Chris Morrow | 18 Jul 22:25 2015
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Slides request

howdy sliders/presenters/etc,
Could you please take a few minutes this evening and email the slides
you plan to present to myself (morrowc@...) and warren
(warren@...) OR ... send them to the list so we can all have them
before the event tomorrow?

I hope to see lots of smiling faces in the room (Congress Hall I)
tomorrow at 10am! The agenda so far is:

o Deploying New DNSSEC Algorithms - Dan York

o Infrastructure GeoLoc - Robert Kisteleki

o Visualisation of RIPE Atlas Probes for root dns deployment and routing
policies - Ray Bellis

o Data Driven Evaluation of root/TLD node plavement - Frank Scalzo

o The Yeti DNS project, and where we are with it - Shane Kerr/Davey Song

(I only have slides for Mr Bellis's presentation so far...)

-chris
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Shane Kerr | 2 Jul 15:30 2015
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Yeti DNS talk for IEPG at IETF 93 in Prague

Dear IEPG,

If there's still room on the agenda, Davey and I would like 15 or 20
minutes to go over the Yeti DNS project and where we're at with it.

Cheers,

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Ray Bellis | 30 Jun 11:24 2015
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Proposed talk at IEPG in Prague

I'd like to offer a short (15 min?) talk on the research I've been doing
using visualisation of RIPE Atlas probes to look at existing and future
F-root placement and routing policies.

Ray
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Warren Kumari | 27 May 20:46 2015
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Call for agenda items for IETF93 (Prague)

Hi there all,

IEPG will be meeting on the Sunday before IETF, 10:00-noon.

If you'd like to request agenda time, please let us know...

We'd like to get a different set of presentations this time, so if
you've been thinking of presenting but haven't, now is your chance.

IEPG participants are generally friendly, and you probably know most of
them already, so if you are someone who is nervous about presenting,
this is a safe place to get some experience....

--

-- 
I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
idea in the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
of pants.
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Yasuhiro Ohara | 5 Mar 02:20 2015
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A new bgpdump tool


Hi,

I'm developing a new tool that can read routeviews
RIB files (MRT v2 RIB format). I call it "bgpdump2". It is similar, but
with a few additional features, to the libbgpdump.
It is going to be open source (the process is on-going).

This e-mail is to consult if there is some interest in such a tool.
I'm considering to provide a presentation in Dallas.

The motivations of creating a brand new tool are below.
1. libbgpdump seemed to have some rooms to speed up, since
   it seems to issue many small-sized read operations, rather than
   making a small number of large-sized read operations.
2. I wanted to add a few additional features (explained below)
   to such tools.
3. it didn't seem easy to modify the libbgpdump for me.

The additional features include longest prefix matching using a
PATRICIA table inside the command, diff'ing the prefixes
between peers (Note, the BGP prefixes are stored per peer
in the RIB file), and to display of some statistics of RIBs per peer.

I am from a R&D division of a tier-1 ISP (i.e., NTT Communications),
and was trying to compare BGP full route routing table instances,
possibly between ISPs.  I expect that such a tool can contribute to
get a detailed view on how/why BGP full route routing tables are
different.  For example, we're going to need the longest matching
lookup function to see if the differentiating prefix is covered by a
shorter prefix.

However I'm not greatly succeeding so far, since the reason for
a prefix that is differentiating depends on case by case
(and there are various reasons including "the business relationship"),
and I could not get a summarized view after the comparison of
(say) two BGP full route routing tables.

I would like to get some feedback from the community on these things.
I can provide in Dallas some more details of my tool,
some performance benchmark of it,
and some statistics of RouteView's RIB files.

Would you kindly share your opinions on this ?

Thanks.

Best regards,
Yasu

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