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Pekka Savola | 1 Mar 2004 03:05
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bogus 6to4 router at IETF WLAN

Someone's Windows box with lladdr fe80::204:23ff:fe7a:fb3e
(2002:da25:e0b0::da25:e0b0) is advertising has gotten too smart, and
is advertising the default route on the IETF59 WLAN.

Stop immediately.

(Perhaps misbehaving hosts should get MAC address blacklisted for a 
while..?)
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Woohyong Choi | 1 Mar 2004 03:33

Re: bogus 6to4 router at IETF WLAN

The host has been jailed not to be able to associate with access points.

choi

On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 04:05:59AM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote:
> Someone's Windows box with lladdr fe80::204:23ff:fe7a:fb3e
> (2002:da25:e0b0::da25:e0b0) is advertising has gotten too smart, and
> is advertising the default route on the IETF59 WLAN.
> 
> Stop immediately.
> 
> (Perhaps misbehaving hosts should get MAC address blacklisted for a 
> while..?)
>
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Jeroen Massar | 1 Mar 2004 03:35
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RE: bogus 6to4 router at IETF WLAN


Pekka Savola wrote:

> Someone's Windows box with lladdr fe80::204:23ff:fe7a:fb3e
> (2002:da25:e0b0::da25:e0b0) is advertising has gotten too smart, and
> is advertising the default route on the IETF59 WLAN.
> 
> Stop immediately.
> 
> (Perhaps misbehaving hosts should get MAC address blacklisted for a 
> while..?)

jeroen <at> purgatory:~$ ipv6calc -i 2002:da25:e0b0::
No input type specified, try autodetection...found type: ipv6addr
No output type specified, try autodetection...found type: ipv6addr
Address type: unicast, 6to4, global-unicast
Address type is 6to4 and included IPv4 address is: 218.37.224.176
IPv4 registry for 6to4 address: APNIC
Address type has SLA: 0000
Interface identifier: 0000:0000:0000:0000
Interface identifier is probably manual set or based on a local EUI-64 identifier
jeroen <at> purgatory:~$ host 218.37.224.176
176.224.37.218.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer MIKE_NOTE.dhcp.ietf59.or.kr.

ping it and arp it ;)

Or run around screaming MIIIKEEEE and hope that there is no
kid suddenly popping screaming Wazowwwskkiii back at you ;)

Btw this is probably one of the subjects to attend to soon
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Woohyong Choi | 1 Mar 2004 03:53

IETF59 Wireless Issues

We have issues with wireless connectivity at the Crystall ball rooms.
59crew is working on the issue, and updates will be posted in reply
to this email.

Also, it appears that ad-hoc nodes are starting to appear. Please make
sure you DISABLE ad-hoc modes from your notebooks.

Please direct your mails to 59crew <at> noc.kr.apan.net for any network
related issues.

We apologize for your inconveniences.

Woohyong Choi, on behalf of IETF59 NOC team
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Paul Vixie | 1 Mar 2004 04:57

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> >> unfortunately, that act of communication _is_ the adverse side effect.
> >> it tells the spammer that yours is an active, responsive email account.

that's only true from the smtp perspective.  since smtp does not encode any
aspect of consent, existence implies reachability.  however, since smtp is
dead meat rotting in the sun waiting for us to figure out what to replace it
with, smtp is not relevant in a discussion of "principles" which this claims
to be.  (anyone who thinks that smtp can be upgraded to encode consent needs
to spend a few more years Just Hitting Delete before you can sit at the
grownups table.)
--

-- 
Paul Vixie
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Melinda Shore | 1 Mar 2004 06:01
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dris mailing list

I realize that the DRIS BOF was put together somewhat quickly, but
the mailing list situation is a little frustrating.

1) there's no mailing list archive at the URL given on the agenda
2) there are no subscription directions on the agenda
3) mail sent to dris-request <at> mail.hust.edu.cn bounces
4) mail sent to dris-owner <at> mail.hust.edu.cn bounces
5) mail sent to majordomo <at> mail.hust.edu.cn bounces

Because of the IETF's tradition of both working and making decisions
on mailing lists, it's really important that there be a functioning
mailing list for each of the various efforts.
It would be helpful in the future if stuff like this can be verified
before it's announced.

Thanks,

Melinda
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Brett Thorson | 1 Mar 2004 06:13

Money Exchange

I asked the Lotte hotel where I could use my US bank card to extract cash.  
They pointed me towards an ATM (Global Cash Service) in the underground 
nearby.  However, as myself and several others have found, this machine has 
been timing out since Friday Night.

I have since found a new Global Cash Service machine on the 11th floor of the 
Lotte Department Store (Food Court) to the right of the blue fountain.  It 
worked great.

Cheers!

--Brett
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Ole Jacobsen | 1 Mar 2004 07:37
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Re: Money Exchange


The B1 floor ("food hall") of the Lotte Department Store is worth a visit
for the huge variety of food from local specialties, live fish and Mrs.
Fields cookies.

Ole

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
Tel: +1 408-527-8972   GSM: +1 415-370-4628
E-mail: ole <at> cisco.com  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Brett Thorson wrote:

> I asked the Lotte hotel where I could use my US bank card to extract cash.
> They pointed me towards an ATM (Global Cash Service) in the underground
> nearby.  However, as myself and several others have found, this machine has
> been timing out since Friday Night.
>
> I have since found a new Global Cash Service machine on the 11th floor of the
> Lotte Department Store (Food Court) to the right of the blue fountain.  It
> worked great.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --Brett
>
>
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Dave Crocker | 1 Mar 2004 08:23

Re: Principles of Spam-abatement

Paul,

>> >> unfortunately, that act of communication _is_ the adverse side effect.
>> >> it tells the spammer that yours is an active, responsive email account.

PV> that's only true from the smtp perspective.  since smtp does not encode any
PV> aspect of consent, existence implies reachability.

rogue spammers are not concerned with consent.  they just want to know
that you and your address are alive.  feedback gives them that
informationl

PV>   however, since smtp is
PV> dead meat rotting in the sun waiting for us to figure out what to replace it

ready-fire-aim.  the dead meat is what the world uses today and will
continue to use for quite some time.  reports of its death are just a
tad premature.

When folks agree on the new mail transfer services that we need and
when we try to add them to smtp and fail, THEN we can have productive
discussions about a replacement transfer protocol.  until then, calls
for a new protocol very much constitute firing before aiming.

PV> with, smtp is not relevant in a discussion of "principles" which this claims
PV> to be.  (anyone who thinks that smtp can be upgraded to encode consent needs
PV> to spend a few more years Just Hitting Delete before you can sit at the
PV> grownups table.)

And everyone else needs to move from the generic reference to
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Nathaniel Borenstein | 1 Mar 2004 08:25
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Re: Money Exchange

I've tried several "Global" ATM's.  All but one of them failed, but the 
Citibank one worked like a charm.  -- Nathaniel

On Mar 1, 2004, at 12:13 AM, Brett Thorson wrote:

> I asked the Lotte hotel where I could use my US bank card to extract 
> cash.
> They pointed me towards an ATM (Global Cash Service) in the underground
> nearby.  However, as myself and several others have found, this 
> machine has
> been timing out since Friday Night.
>
> I have since found a new Global Cash Service machine on the 11th floor 
> of the
> Lotte Department Store (Food Court) to the right of the blue fountain. 
>  It
> worked great.
>
> Cheers!
>
> --Brett
>
>
>
>
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