Bernard Aboba | 2 Apr 2011 05:36
Stephen Hanna | 2 Apr 2011 12:29
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Thanks, Bernard. That’s very helpful. As I said during the WG meeting in Prague, the IPR that worries me most is that which is not disclosed and for which no licensing has been offered. But still it’s valuable to see what’s known.

 

Take care,

 

Steve

 

From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bernard Aboba
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:37 PM
To: emu <at> ietf.org
Subject: [Emu] EAP tunnel method disclosures on www.ietf.org

 

Here are IETF IPR disclosures which may be relevant to the tunnel method discussion:

 

2011-03-18 1519 Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-zhou-emu-eap-fastv2-00

2008-12-04 1039 Cisco's Statement of IPR related to draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-provisioning-10

2007-02-02 802 Cisco's Statement about IPR claimed in draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-provisioning-03.txt

2005-10-28 655 Microsoft's Statement about IPR claimed in draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-02.txt
2005-10-28 656 Microsoft's Statement about IPR claimed in draft-badra-eap-double-tls-03.txt

2005-07-06 595 Nokia Corporation's statement about IPR claimed in draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-02.txt

2004-02-16 337 Cisco's Statement About IPR Claimed in draft-cam-winget-eap-fast

2002-11-12 96 Microsoft's patent statement pertaining to Protected EAP Protocol (PEAP) (draft-josefsson-pppext-eap-tls-eap-02.txt and draft-kamath-pppext-peapv0-00.txt)

 

 

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Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37 | 8 Apr 2011 01:43
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

Answer to Question 1: YES

Answer to Question 2: FASTv2

Regards,
Katrin Hoeper

> -----Original Message-----
> From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Alan
> DeKok
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:30 AM
> To: emu <at> ietf.org
> Subject: [Emu] Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method
> 
> 
>   For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
> the following consensus call:
> 
> Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled
method?
> 
>   Please indicate Yes or No.
> 
> Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
> support for one of the two proposed methods:
> 
> 	FASTv2
> or
> 	EAP-Team
> 
>   Alan DeKok.
>   EMU Co-Chair
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
Joe Salowey | 13 Apr 2011 19:52
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Drafts minutes from IETF 80

Draft Minutes from the EMU meeting at IETF 80 are available at

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/minutes/emu.txt.  

Let me know if you have any corrections.

Thanks,

Joe
Zhen Cao | 15 Apr 2011 04:15
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

Answer to Question 1: YES

Answer to Question 2: EAP-Team

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Alan DeKok <aland <at> deployingradius.com> wrote:
>  For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
> the following consensus call:
>
> Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled method?
>
>  Please indicate Yes or No.
>
> Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
> support for one of the two proposed methods:
>
>        FASTv2
> or
>        EAP-Team
>
>  Alan DeKok.
>  EMU Co-Chair
> _______________________________________________
> Emu mailing list
> Emu <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
>

--

-- 
Best regards,
Zhen
Alan DeKok | 15 Apr 2011 14:55
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

  We had 4 responses on the list, in addition to the discussion at IETF.

Q1: 4 yes
    0 No

Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
    1 EAP-TEAM

  The WG consensus is that EAP-FASTv2 should be the tunnel method.

Alan DeKok wrote:
> For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
> the following consensus call:
>
> Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled method?
>
>  Please indicate Yes or No.
>
> Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
> support for one of the two proposed methods:
>
>        FASTv2
> or
>        EAP-Team
>
...
>   Thursday April 14.  That gives us 2 weeks, which is usual for a
> consensus call.
Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37 | 15 Apr 2011 16:10
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

I counted five responses:

Q1: 5 yes
0 no

Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
2 EAP-TEAM

Katrin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Alan
> DeKok
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:55 AM
> To: emu <at> ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Emu] Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method
> 
> 
>   We had 4 responses on the list, in addition to the discussion at
IETF.
> 
> Q1: 4 yes
>     0 No
> 
> Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
>     1 EAP-TEAM
> 
>   The WG consensus is that EAP-FASTv2 should be the tunnel method.
> 
> Alan DeKok wrote:
> > For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
> > the following consensus call:
> >
> > Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled
method?
> >
> >  Please indicate Yes or No.
> >
> > Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
> > support for one of the two proposed methods:
> >
> >        FASTv2
> > or
> >        EAP-Team
> >
> ...
> >   Thursday April 14.  That gives us 2 weeks, which is usual for a
> > consensus call.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Emu mailing list
> Emu <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
Dan Harkins | 15 Apr 2011 18:41

Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method


  Rough consensus people, rough consensus. How about if our esteemed
co-chairmen go behind closed doors and burn some paper. White smoke
means TEAM, black smoke means FAST.

  Dan.

On Fri, April 15, 2011 7:10 am, Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37 wrote:
> I counted five responses:
>
> Q1: 5 yes
> 0 no
>
> Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
> 2 EAP-TEAM
>
> Katrin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Alan
>> DeKok
>> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:55 AM
>> To: emu <at> ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Emu] Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method
>>
>>
>>   We had 4 responses on the list, in addition to the discussion at
> IETF.
>>
>> Q1: 4 yes
>>     0 No
>>
>> Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
>>     1 EAP-TEAM
>>
>>   The WG consensus is that EAP-FASTv2 should be the tunnel method.
>>
>> Alan DeKok wrote:
>> > For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
>> > the following consensus call:
>> >
>> > Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled
> method?
>> >
>> >  Please indicate Yes or No.
>> >
>> > Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
>> > support for one of the two proposed methods:
>> >
>> >        FASTv2
>> > or
>> >        EAP-Team
>> >
>> ...
>> >   Thursday April 14.  That gives us 2 weeks, which is usual for a
>> > consensus call.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emu mailing list
>> Emu <at> ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
> _______________________________________________
> Emu mailing list
> Emu <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
>
Stephen Hanna | 15 Apr 2011 21:21
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

I agree with Katrin's count for the email poll. When combined
with the count from the meeting in Prague (since Alan asked
for only folks who didn't attend the EMU WG meeting in Prague),
I think the total is 12 for EAP-FASTv2 and 5 for EAP-TEAM.

Thanks,

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Hoeper Katrin-QWKN37
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:10 AM
> To: Alan DeKok; emu <at> ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Emu] Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method
> 
> I counted five responses:
> 
> Q1: 5 yes
> 0 no
> 
> Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
> 2 EAP-TEAM
> 
> Katrin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: emu-bounces <at> ietf.org [mailto:emu-bounces <at> ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Alan
> > DeKok
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:55 AM
> > To: emu <at> ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Emu] Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method
> >
> >
> >   We had 4 responses on the list, in addition to the discussion at
> IETF.
> >
> > Q1: 4 yes
> >     0 No
> >
> > Q2: 3 EAP-FASTv2
> >     1 EAP-TEAM
> >
> >   The WG consensus is that EAP-FASTv2 should be the tunnel method.
> >
> > Alan DeKok wrote:
> > > For people who didn't attend the EMU meeting at IETF, please answer
> > > the following consensus call:
> > >
> > > Question 1: Are you ready to make a decision on the EAP tunneled
> method?
> > >
> > >  Please indicate Yes or No.
> > >
> > > Question 2: If the answer to Question 1 is "Yes", please indicate
> > > support for one of the two proposed methods:
> > >
> > >        FASTv2
> > > or
> > >        EAP-Team
> > >
> > ...
> > >   Thursday April 14.  That gives us 2 weeks, which is usual for a
> > > consensus call.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Emu mailing list
> > Emu <at> ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
> _______________________________________________
> Emu mailing list
> Emu <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu
Alan DeKok | 16 Apr 2011 08:25
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Re: Consensus call on EAP Tunneled method

Stephen Hanna wrote:
> I agree with Katrin's count for the email poll. When combined
> with the count from the meeting in Prague (since Alan asked
> for only folks who didn't attend the EMU WG meeting in Prague),
> I think the total is 12 for EAP-FASTv2 and 5 for EAP-TEAM.

  I've gone back and reviewed my EMU folder, and Katrin is correct.
Sorry for the miscount.

  As you not, this does not change the rough consensus of the WG, where
the majority at IETF supported FASTv2.

  Alan DeKok.

Gmane